This article is about... a somewhat controversial commemorative coin, in its time. Though it would probably be so today, I suppose. Also notable for the appearance of one of Congress's most spectacularly named members,
Wells Goodykoontz. He should have kept at it, imagine Senator Goodykoontz, Governor Goodykoontz, dare I say President Goodykoontz? But I digress.
Wehwalt (
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10:18, 20 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Support: A very interesting and nicely written piece. Minor quibbles/preferences that you are free to ignore:
In the lead, 'a portion was returned to the Mint' can we say how many
The Huguenots were French Protestants, and there was often conflict with the Catholic majority. - who were often in conflict...
with an amendment adding the bank - ...as designators
Neither had any direct involvement with the voyage of the Nieuw Nederlandt, having been killed forty years or longer before it took place. Could this sentence do with out "it took place".
were not killed for their religion and were anti-Catholic, "the United States...": ..religion, were..., and that "the United States..."
with the words, HUGUENOT – WALLOON – TERCENTENARY – FOUNDING OF NEW NETHERLAND with the years 1624 and 1924 - 'with' twice, maybe and the years
Comments: Interesting article. Just a few comments:
the lead could benefit from an explanation of the Walloon connection, rather than just mention Belgium.
I found the Background section a bit light. Lots of key info of how the background connects to the coin only trickles through in later sections.
It does ... but that's the fault of the sources. I'm wedding the standard books on the subject of commemoratives with congressional sources that I do not know if the authors examined and probably not. Thus, there are disconnects and no one comments on them. For example, Peter Minuit is mentioned by Stoudt as the subject of the design. Obviously that didn't happen. Whether that was due to some problem with the design, or whether it was "Protestant propaganda", who knows? I'm picking and choosing facts to help the reader because no one has drawn connections or commented.
The first paragraph of Legislation is not about Legislation. I wonder if this fits better in its own section. The article is a little light on Huguenots in the 1920s, so more background on the forming of the commission would be good. An alternative to its own section is the background section.
I've added it. I'm not sure how much it would be useful to add on 1920s Huguenots, as this was a broader celebration by the Churches of Christ in America.--
Wehwalt (
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22:12, 24 February 2016 (UTC)reply
"The Huguenot-Walloon New Netherland Commission was established under the auspices " when?
"by Pennsylvania Congressman Fred Gernerd" needs explanation of why him here, rather than 2 sentences later
"by Pennsylvania's David A. Reed" why him?
I'm going by the congressional documents, which are bare of such details. Likely because he was from Pennsylvania.
"Swiatek and Breen noted" a description of who they are would be good. numismatists?
"The Huguenot-Walloon commission" is this another commission or is it The Huguenot-Walloon New Netherland Commission?
Support – My only complaint is that if one blinks one misses another top-notch FAC from Wehwalt. I nearly missed this one, and am happy to add my support now. Tim riley talk17:41, 21 March 2016 (UTC)reply
For some reason, the image in the Production section has a visible file name in the caption
File:NNC-1924-50C-Huguenot-Walloon_Tercentenary_half_dollar_(reverse,_uniface_die_trial).jpg needs a licensing tag for the die itself.
Nikkimaria (
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15:04, 27 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Godot13 did that coding (and I must thank him for providing the images, that particular one inspired me to do this article). Can you see what's going on?--
Wehwalt (
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18:47, 27 March 2016 (UTC)reply
I'm looking at the coding and don't see anything wrong with it. I took a screen shot and it doesn't show the extra text. Is the text still showing up for you
Nikkimaria?--
Godot13 (
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23:43, 27 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Nikkimaria, as we haven't been able to fix it, I've switched to the original image, showing both sides of the die trial. I may crop the image and upload it as derivative but there's no hurry. I think this addresses all image concerns.--
Wehwalt (
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09:28, 30 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Support from Gerda
Thank you for another article of high value ;)
In the lead, you may want to mention the destination of the ship, for those who don't know what the name implies.
In the caption for Stoudt, consider to repeat his part in the story. Yes, it was said before, but for us idiots who look at boxes and pics ;)
I've added a location for the USGPO, so it is consistent with those in book form. I've changed the name of the reference per your suggestion. Thank you.--
Wehwalt (
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12:57, 11 April 2016 (UTC)reply
This article is about... a somewhat controversial commemorative coin, in its time. Though it would probably be so today, I suppose. Also notable for the appearance of one of Congress's most spectacularly named members,
Wells Goodykoontz. He should have kept at it, imagine Senator Goodykoontz, Governor Goodykoontz, dare I say President Goodykoontz? But I digress.
Wehwalt (
talk)
10:18, 20 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Support: A very interesting and nicely written piece. Minor quibbles/preferences that you are free to ignore:
In the lead, 'a portion was returned to the Mint' can we say how many
The Huguenots were French Protestants, and there was often conflict with the Catholic majority. - who were often in conflict...
with an amendment adding the bank - ...as designators
Neither had any direct involvement with the voyage of the Nieuw Nederlandt, having been killed forty years or longer before it took place. Could this sentence do with out "it took place".
were not killed for their religion and were anti-Catholic, "the United States...": ..religion, were..., and that "the United States..."
with the words, HUGUENOT – WALLOON – TERCENTENARY – FOUNDING OF NEW NETHERLAND with the years 1624 and 1924 - 'with' twice, maybe and the years
Comments: Interesting article. Just a few comments:
the lead could benefit from an explanation of the Walloon connection, rather than just mention Belgium.
I found the Background section a bit light. Lots of key info of how the background connects to the coin only trickles through in later sections.
It does ... but that's the fault of the sources. I'm wedding the standard books on the subject of commemoratives with congressional sources that I do not know if the authors examined and probably not. Thus, there are disconnects and no one comments on them. For example, Peter Minuit is mentioned by Stoudt as the subject of the design. Obviously that didn't happen. Whether that was due to some problem with the design, or whether it was "Protestant propaganda", who knows? I'm picking and choosing facts to help the reader because no one has drawn connections or commented.
The first paragraph of Legislation is not about Legislation. I wonder if this fits better in its own section. The article is a little light on Huguenots in the 1920s, so more background on the forming of the commission would be good. An alternative to its own section is the background section.
I've added it. I'm not sure how much it would be useful to add on 1920s Huguenots, as this was a broader celebration by the Churches of Christ in America.--
Wehwalt (
talk)
22:12, 24 February 2016 (UTC)reply
"The Huguenot-Walloon New Netherland Commission was established under the auspices " when?
"by Pennsylvania Congressman Fred Gernerd" needs explanation of why him here, rather than 2 sentences later
"by Pennsylvania's David A. Reed" why him?
I'm going by the congressional documents, which are bare of such details. Likely because he was from Pennsylvania.
"Swiatek and Breen noted" a description of who they are would be good. numismatists?
"The Huguenot-Walloon commission" is this another commission or is it The Huguenot-Walloon New Netherland Commission?
Support – My only complaint is that if one blinks one misses another top-notch FAC from Wehwalt. I nearly missed this one, and am happy to add my support now. Tim riley talk17:41, 21 March 2016 (UTC)reply
For some reason, the image in the Production section has a visible file name in the caption
File:NNC-1924-50C-Huguenot-Walloon_Tercentenary_half_dollar_(reverse,_uniface_die_trial).jpg needs a licensing tag for the die itself.
Nikkimaria (
talk)
15:04, 27 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Godot13 did that coding (and I must thank him for providing the images, that particular one inspired me to do this article). Can you see what's going on?--
Wehwalt (
talk)
18:47, 27 March 2016 (UTC)reply
I'm looking at the coding and don't see anything wrong with it. I took a screen shot and it doesn't show the extra text. Is the text still showing up for you
Nikkimaria?--
Godot13 (
talk)
23:43, 27 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Nikkimaria, as we haven't been able to fix it, I've switched to the original image, showing both sides of the die trial. I may crop the image and upload it as derivative but there's no hurry. I think this addresses all image concerns.--
Wehwalt (
talk)
09:28, 30 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Support from Gerda
Thank you for another article of high value ;)
In the lead, you may want to mention the destination of the ship, for those who don't know what the name implies.
In the caption for Stoudt, consider to repeat his part in the story. Yes, it was said before, but for us idiots who look at boxes and pics ;)
I've added a location for the USGPO, so it is consistent with those in book form. I've changed the name of the reference per your suggestion. Thank you.--
Wehwalt (
talk)
12:57, 11 April 2016 (UTC)reply