This article is about Henry Conwell, the second Catholic bishop of Philadelphia. He began his episcopate at an advanced age and spent much of his tenure fighting with lay trustees of one of his parishes. He was recalled to Rome, stripped of most of his powers, and lived out his days as bishop in name only. I hope his story proves an interesting read.
Coemgenus (
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16:14, 28 January 2017 (UTC)reply
You might want to make it clear he was born in Ulster and thus not in present-day Ireland (Irish Free State)
"He was appointed parish priest of Dungannon in 1792 or 1793 and Vicar General of the Archdiocese of Armagh in 1794.[1][5] After the death of Archbishop Richard O'Reilly in 1818, Conwell served as acting Archbishop". Hm. Long time, no see? (no action required)
I'd make clearer how few Catholics there were in the US at the time, especially outside Maryland.
"Hogan quickly ingratiated himself with the board of trustees, siding with them in their dispute with the other clergy" Was the board made up of clergy? Some clarification so we know the situation we're dealing with.
"that neither Conwell nor anyone had the right to dictate the location of his residence." maybe "that neither Conwell nor anyone else had the right to say where he should live."
"In the meantime, Conwell recalled a Dominican friar, William Vincent Harold, whom his predecessor had dismissed." I'd make it clearer this was as interim priest at St. Mary's, or whatever the proper term is.
Thanks for the support. I've clarified these where I could. There is very little information on his early life, so not much I can add there. I can't find anything that says exactly what Harold did when he returned except assist Conwell. I'll look some more to see where he said mass, if anywhere, but Hogan was still at St. Mary's at this point, despite his excommunication, so it almost certainly wasn't there. There were three more downtown churches, so it could have been any of them. --
Coemgenus (
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00:27, 29 January 2017 (UTC)reply
"his divide with Conwell deepened": I think I know what's intended, but there's been no mention of a divide specifically between Hogan and Conwell up to this point, so I think this should be rephrased, particularly as this is followed by "When Conwell arrived", implying that the previous sentence describes events preceding Conwell's arrival.
"The trustees soon renounced the agreement, and when word reached the Holy See": word of the agreement or of the announcement by the trustees that they had renounced it? The wording makes it seem to be the latter, but the rest of the sentence seems to point to the former.
It's the latter, they didn't approve of the agreement even before they knew the trustees were going to break it. Should be better worded now. --
Coemgenus (
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01:48, 27 February 2017 (UTC)reply
Can the external link in note b be converted to a citation? And I think note c should have a citation too.
Those fixes look good to me. Odd that there's no ISBN, but there were other small publishers well into the 1970s that omitted ISBNs; I guess the archdiocese was a little behind the times.
Mike Christie (
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12:24, 27 February 2017 (UTC)reply
This article is about Henry Conwell, the second Catholic bishop of Philadelphia. He began his episcopate at an advanced age and spent much of his tenure fighting with lay trustees of one of his parishes. He was recalled to Rome, stripped of most of his powers, and lived out his days as bishop in name only. I hope his story proves an interesting read.
Coemgenus (
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16:14, 28 January 2017 (UTC)reply
You might want to make it clear he was born in Ulster and thus not in present-day Ireland (Irish Free State)
"He was appointed parish priest of Dungannon in 1792 or 1793 and Vicar General of the Archdiocese of Armagh in 1794.[1][5] After the death of Archbishop Richard O'Reilly in 1818, Conwell served as acting Archbishop". Hm. Long time, no see? (no action required)
I'd make clearer how few Catholics there were in the US at the time, especially outside Maryland.
"Hogan quickly ingratiated himself with the board of trustees, siding with them in their dispute with the other clergy" Was the board made up of clergy? Some clarification so we know the situation we're dealing with.
"that neither Conwell nor anyone had the right to dictate the location of his residence." maybe "that neither Conwell nor anyone else had the right to say where he should live."
"In the meantime, Conwell recalled a Dominican friar, William Vincent Harold, whom his predecessor had dismissed." I'd make it clearer this was as interim priest at St. Mary's, or whatever the proper term is.
Thanks for the support. I've clarified these where I could. There is very little information on his early life, so not much I can add there. I can't find anything that says exactly what Harold did when he returned except assist Conwell. I'll look some more to see where he said mass, if anywhere, but Hogan was still at St. Mary's at this point, despite his excommunication, so it almost certainly wasn't there. There were three more downtown churches, so it could have been any of them. --
Coemgenus (
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00:27, 29 January 2017 (UTC)reply
"his divide with Conwell deepened": I think I know what's intended, but there's been no mention of a divide specifically between Hogan and Conwell up to this point, so I think this should be rephrased, particularly as this is followed by "When Conwell arrived", implying that the previous sentence describes events preceding Conwell's arrival.
"The trustees soon renounced the agreement, and when word reached the Holy See": word of the agreement or of the announcement by the trustees that they had renounced it? The wording makes it seem to be the latter, but the rest of the sentence seems to point to the former.
It's the latter, they didn't approve of the agreement even before they knew the trustees were going to break it. Should be better worded now. --
Coemgenus (
talk)
01:48, 27 February 2017 (UTC)reply
Can the external link in note b be converted to a citation? And I think note c should have a citation too.
Those fixes look good to me. Odd that there's no ISBN, but there were other small publishers well into the 1970s that omitted ISBNs; I guess the archdiocese was a little behind the times.
Mike Christie (
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12:24, 27 February 2017 (UTC)reply