The article was not promoted 07:15, 4 September 2007.
The controversy itself is now over, and the edit wars are now finished. What is left is very comprehensive and concise article that I think is now good enough for FA. Let something good come out of something bad. DevAlt 09:06, 1 September 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose. I believe this article to be fundamentally unsuitable to be an FA. We cannot hold this up as an example of the best work on Wikipedia - it is self-referential and obsessed with our own importance. It is also an article about a short term news event rather than a topic of actual encyclopedic interest. I have long advocated its deletion and still do so now. However aside from this I believe this article falls well below our expected standards in the following ways:
I certainly think this article falls below the FAC now and have reservations at whether it could ever meet that criteria. WjB scribe 18:50, 1 September 2007 (UTC) reply
Just to flesh out a few base principles here - (1) If this is promoted, I will not put it on the main page for the same reason I declined to put Wikipedia on the main page when it was a featured article - it's simply too self-referential. However, (2) the fact that it is not suitable for the main page, or the fact that is self-referential, should not in-and-of-itself disqualify this article from becoming a featured article. I've often said, and I'll say again here - any article that can or has survived a trip to the AFD should, at least in theory, be eligible for featured article status. (3) For the first three weeks in August, this article received only 16 edits; the diff for last month shows very little substantive change in the article. Therefore, I do not consider it unstable. The likelihood of vandalism or future edit wars is NOT a consideration when determining featured article status. Please restrict commentary here to the substance of the article. Raul654 03:31, 2 September 2007 (UTC) reply
The article was not promoted 07:15, 4 September 2007.
The controversy itself is now over, and the edit wars are now finished. What is left is very comprehensive and concise article that I think is now good enough for FA. Let something good come out of something bad. DevAlt 09:06, 1 September 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose. I believe this article to be fundamentally unsuitable to be an FA. We cannot hold this up as an example of the best work on Wikipedia - it is self-referential and obsessed with our own importance. It is also an article about a short term news event rather than a topic of actual encyclopedic interest. I have long advocated its deletion and still do so now. However aside from this I believe this article falls well below our expected standards in the following ways:
I certainly think this article falls below the FAC now and have reservations at whether it could ever meet that criteria. WjB scribe 18:50, 1 September 2007 (UTC) reply
Just to flesh out a few base principles here - (1) If this is promoted, I will not put it on the main page for the same reason I declined to put Wikipedia on the main page when it was a featured article - it's simply too self-referential. However, (2) the fact that it is not suitable for the main page, or the fact that is self-referential, should not in-and-of-itself disqualify this article from becoming a featured article. I've often said, and I'll say again here - any article that can or has survived a trip to the AFD should, at least in theory, be eligible for featured article status. (3) For the first three weeks in August, this article received only 16 edits; the diff for last month shows very little substantive change in the article. Therefore, I do not consider it unstable. The likelihood of vandalism or future edit wars is NOT a consideration when determining featured article status. Please restrict commentary here to the substance of the article. Raul654 03:31, 2 September 2007 (UTC) reply