The article was promoted by Ian Rose via FACBot ( talk) 26 June 2019 [1].
It took a Yorkshire lass to show the Mancunians how to cook—and to invent the pride of the north west, the Eccles cake. Elizabeth Raffald was an extraordinary character. After working in service, she opened a Register Office to introduce domestic workers to employers; ran a cookery school and sold food, published a superb cookery book and Manchester's first trade directory, ran two important post houses while also giving birth to six children. This article has undergone a re-write and had an excellent peer review. Any further constructive comments and suggestions are warmly welcomed. Cheers - SchroCat ( talk) 21:50, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
Support. I was one of the peer reviewers and my quibbles (all minor) were dealt with then. Only two further points strike me on rereading. In the lead, "In 1769 Raffald published..." might flow more smoothly as "In 1769 she published ..."; and in Business career, penultimate para, I think you have one ess too many in the Raffalds's: you only want the first one. The article seems to me to meet the FA criteria: comprehensive, an enjoyable read, balanced, well and widely sourced and nicely illustrated. – Tim riley talk 12:49, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
Support. One minor query: in the lead, we are told that "After her death there were several official editions of her cookery book, and twenty-three pirated ones": is there any particular reason the lead doesn't say how many genuine editions of the book were published? Other than that, the prose is good, illustrations are good (if I were to be really picky, I might complain about the off-of-horizontal lines of mortar and text on the photo of the blue plaque!), and the article seems balanced and comprehensive. Caeciliusinhorto ( talk) 16:20, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Image review
Support. I missed the peer review, but looking at this version today, it's evident I wasn't needed. I've read through the article today, fixed some ref orders and removed a typo, and I'm happy this meets the FA criteria. A sterling effort and a very good read. Well done. Cassianto Talk 17:35, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
An excellently written article. Enjoyable and educational to boot. Gog the Mild ( talk) 18:53, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
Brianboulton ( talk) 14:28, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for dealing with a woman influential in cooking! Only minor comments:
General: while I believe that a woman should not be called by given name alone, I don't think she should be called Raffald before she married. That goes for lead and the first paragraph of early life.
Lead: The first sentence is overly general, - I'd prefer a hint at her topics.
Early life
Business career
Cookery
Legacy
Please take the points just as things to be considered, - I am ready to support regardless, and some may be just my missing English or Mancunian ;) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 13:29, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
An improvement on my poor effort. Eric Corbett 17:18, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
The article was promoted by Ian Rose via FACBot ( talk) 26 June 2019 [1].
It took a Yorkshire lass to show the Mancunians how to cook—and to invent the pride of the north west, the Eccles cake. Elizabeth Raffald was an extraordinary character. After working in service, she opened a Register Office to introduce domestic workers to employers; ran a cookery school and sold food, published a superb cookery book and Manchester's first trade directory, ran two important post houses while also giving birth to six children. This article has undergone a re-write and had an excellent peer review. Any further constructive comments and suggestions are warmly welcomed. Cheers - SchroCat ( talk) 21:50, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
Support. I was one of the peer reviewers and my quibbles (all minor) were dealt with then. Only two further points strike me on rereading. In the lead, "In 1769 Raffald published..." might flow more smoothly as "In 1769 she published ..."; and in Business career, penultimate para, I think you have one ess too many in the Raffalds's: you only want the first one. The article seems to me to meet the FA criteria: comprehensive, an enjoyable read, balanced, well and widely sourced and nicely illustrated. – Tim riley talk 12:49, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
Support. One minor query: in the lead, we are told that "After her death there were several official editions of her cookery book, and twenty-three pirated ones": is there any particular reason the lead doesn't say how many genuine editions of the book were published? Other than that, the prose is good, illustrations are good (if I were to be really picky, I might complain about the off-of-horizontal lines of mortar and text on the photo of the blue plaque!), and the article seems balanced and comprehensive. Caeciliusinhorto ( talk) 16:20, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Image review
Support. I missed the peer review, but looking at this version today, it's evident I wasn't needed. I've read through the article today, fixed some ref orders and removed a typo, and I'm happy this meets the FA criteria. A sterling effort and a very good read. Well done. Cassianto Talk 17:35, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
An excellently written article. Enjoyable and educational to boot. Gog the Mild ( talk) 18:53, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
Brianboulton ( talk) 14:28, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for dealing with a woman influential in cooking! Only minor comments:
General: while I believe that a woman should not be called by given name alone, I don't think she should be called Raffald before she married. That goes for lead and the first paragraph of early life.
Lead: The first sentence is overly general, - I'd prefer a hint at her topics.
Early life
Business career
Cookery
Legacy
Please take the points just as things to be considered, - I am ready to support regardless, and some may be just my missing English or Mancunian ;) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 13:29, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
An improvement on my poor effort. Eric Corbett 17:18, 25 June 2019 (UTC)