The article was archived by Sarastro1 via FACBot ( talk) 21:26, 22 February 2018 [1].
Deep Space Homer is a notable episode of the Simpsons. The episode has guest stars of Buzz Aldrin and James Taylor. The episode is well known in the Simpsons community, even having a copy for the International Space Station to watch. In the episode, NASA is concerned by the decline in public interest in space exploration, and therefore decides to send an ordinary person into space. After competition with his friend Barney during training, Homer is selected and chaos ensues when the navigation system on his space shuttle is destroyed.
This is my First FA Nomination. I have reviewed many Good articles and have nominated others in the process. I have copy-edited this article and talked to others about the structure. I want to continue the success of Simpsons articles. AmericanAir88 ( talk) 20:32, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
As I don't really know how to do a Featured Article on a television episode, I have referred to an existing one - " A Streetcar Named Marge".
*I would argue that there is an excuse to include a NFCC screenshot of something to do with Brockman/the ants to demonstrate what the meme is about as it's discussed a lot in the reception section.
@ Darkwarriorblake: Thanks! AmericanAir88 ( talk) 22:56, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
@ Darkwarriorblake: Image has been added. Thank you! AmericanAir88 ( talk) 23:53, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Otherwise, the sources seem appropriate and are properly presented. Brianboulton ( talk) 21:13, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
@ Brianboulton: All Completed AmericanAir88 ( talk) 23:14, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
*Do you have a source that mentions what lyrics of the song were altered for the show?
*I am not certain about the inclusion of a “Cultural references” section given that the
Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Television discourages the use of “Trivia sections”. I think that the section could be salvaged if you make it clearer that this information comes from episode commentary in the prose or turn it into a “Themes” section or something similar to that. Right now, it looks like a lot of original research to me.
*Here are a few sources that.I found while doing a quick Google search that could help with expanding this article:
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2
3
4
5
6
7
8. I found these sources from a rather superficial search online, so I do not think that this is as comprehensive as it should be at this stage.
First, I just want to say that I think that it is great that you brought a television episode to the FAC process. I have personally brought a few television episodes through here successfully, and it is great to see other people work on these types of articles. That being said I will have to oppose this, primarily due to three concerns: 1) the plot section will need to be reworked and revised pretty extensively to meet the word limit, 2) the "Cultural references" section needs to be completely overhauled, and 3) more sources should be added to this article. If I could find eight sources that are not already in this article during a quick and superficial Google search, then there is an issue in my opinion. I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I just do not believe that this is ready at this stage. If you would like to continue working on this, I think peer review would be your best option.
Aoba47 (
talk)
01:20, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
@ Aoba47: I understand why you feel this way about the article. I will address all these issues, in hope that you will see again the potential this article has.
Countering, if you look at other Simpsons articles that are at FA status such as You Only Move Twice It contains 623 words(I fixed the extensive issue) and a cultural reference section.
@ Aoba47: Could not find a source for the "Altered Lyrics" section
@ Aoba47: Thank you for your reply. I will try my hardest do fix the problems that are located in the article; starting with your stated issues. Please do not hesitate to ask if there is anything else that needs attention. AmericanAir88 ( talk) 13:57, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
@ Aoba47: What if I make it just about 2001: A Space Odyssey, as this is a very credible area of cultural impact on the episode. AmericanAir88 ( talk) 22:09, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
@ Aoba47: :( Okay, I am supportive of whatever your opinion is. Thank you so much for the input. I will keep you updated. AmericanAir88 ( talk) 00:50, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
Used the archived bot to all sources but there are some things that bother me:
Other than that, I am willing to give you my support if these issues are solved. If possible, could you check this FAC? Also, don't worry if the nomination fails. There is always next time and this was your first time at it. Cheers. Tintor2 ( talk) 19:08, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
@ Tintor2: All issues addressed, Thanks! AmericanAir88 ( talk) 01:21, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
Just taking a brief look through this, I'm not quite sure we're there yet. Like Aoba47, I also have concerns about comprehensiveness. A quick search via Google Books shows that the episode has several other sources that are not yet present in the article. Therefore, I'd like to see some additional referencing (and, if possible, material) added before I give this a formal review. Also, this is just a side note, but I'd remove the Grade Saver reference (#9) as it appears to be nothing more than a direct copy of this article/section, 2001: A Space Odyssey (film)#Parodies and homages.
Please, don't worry if the nomination is not successful. I've had nominations fail in the past as well. FAC is a long working process that requires an intense amount of research and dedication. This is absolutely a GA but I'm not sure it's comprehensive enough to be an FA just yet. I wish you nothing but the best as you continue to work on this! -- Bcschneider53 ( talk) 18:34, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Closing comment: Given the standing oppose on this FAC, and the concerns of Bcschneider53, I will archive this shortly. It can be renominated after the usual 2-week waiting period, but I would recommend getting further eyes on the article if possible before renominating. Sarastro ( talk) 21:25, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
The article was archived by Sarastro1 via FACBot ( talk) 21:26, 22 February 2018 [1].
Deep Space Homer is a notable episode of the Simpsons. The episode has guest stars of Buzz Aldrin and James Taylor. The episode is well known in the Simpsons community, even having a copy for the International Space Station to watch. In the episode, NASA is concerned by the decline in public interest in space exploration, and therefore decides to send an ordinary person into space. After competition with his friend Barney during training, Homer is selected and chaos ensues when the navigation system on his space shuttle is destroyed.
This is my First FA Nomination. I have reviewed many Good articles and have nominated others in the process. I have copy-edited this article and talked to others about the structure. I want to continue the success of Simpsons articles. AmericanAir88 ( talk) 20:32, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
As I don't really know how to do a Featured Article on a television episode, I have referred to an existing one - " A Streetcar Named Marge".
*I would argue that there is an excuse to include a NFCC screenshot of something to do with Brockman/the ants to demonstrate what the meme is about as it's discussed a lot in the reception section.
@ Darkwarriorblake: Thanks! AmericanAir88 ( talk) 22:56, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
@ Darkwarriorblake: Image has been added. Thank you! AmericanAir88 ( talk) 23:53, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Otherwise, the sources seem appropriate and are properly presented. Brianboulton ( talk) 21:13, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
@ Brianboulton: All Completed AmericanAir88 ( talk) 23:14, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
*Do you have a source that mentions what lyrics of the song were altered for the show?
*I am not certain about the inclusion of a “Cultural references” section given that the
Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Television discourages the use of “Trivia sections”. I think that the section could be salvaged if you make it clearer that this information comes from episode commentary in the prose or turn it into a “Themes” section or something similar to that. Right now, it looks like a lot of original research to me.
*Here are a few sources that.I found while doing a quick Google search that could help with expanding this article:
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8. I found these sources from a rather superficial search online, so I do not think that this is as comprehensive as it should be at this stage.
First, I just want to say that I think that it is great that you brought a television episode to the FAC process. I have personally brought a few television episodes through here successfully, and it is great to see other people work on these types of articles. That being said I will have to oppose this, primarily due to three concerns: 1) the plot section will need to be reworked and revised pretty extensively to meet the word limit, 2) the "Cultural references" section needs to be completely overhauled, and 3) more sources should be added to this article. If I could find eight sources that are not already in this article during a quick and superficial Google search, then there is an issue in my opinion. I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I just do not believe that this is ready at this stage. If you would like to continue working on this, I think peer review would be your best option.
Aoba47 (
talk)
01:20, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
@ Aoba47: I understand why you feel this way about the article. I will address all these issues, in hope that you will see again the potential this article has.
Countering, if you look at other Simpsons articles that are at FA status such as You Only Move Twice It contains 623 words(I fixed the extensive issue) and a cultural reference section.
@ Aoba47: Could not find a source for the "Altered Lyrics" section
@ Aoba47: Thank you for your reply. I will try my hardest do fix the problems that are located in the article; starting with your stated issues. Please do not hesitate to ask if there is anything else that needs attention. AmericanAir88 ( talk) 13:57, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
@ Aoba47: What if I make it just about 2001: A Space Odyssey, as this is a very credible area of cultural impact on the episode. AmericanAir88 ( talk) 22:09, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
@ Aoba47: :( Okay, I am supportive of whatever your opinion is. Thank you so much for the input. I will keep you updated. AmericanAir88 ( talk) 00:50, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
Used the archived bot to all sources but there are some things that bother me:
Other than that, I am willing to give you my support if these issues are solved. If possible, could you check this FAC? Also, don't worry if the nomination fails. There is always next time and this was your first time at it. Cheers. Tintor2 ( talk) 19:08, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
@ Tintor2: All issues addressed, Thanks! AmericanAir88 ( talk) 01:21, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
Just taking a brief look through this, I'm not quite sure we're there yet. Like Aoba47, I also have concerns about comprehensiveness. A quick search via Google Books shows that the episode has several other sources that are not yet present in the article. Therefore, I'd like to see some additional referencing (and, if possible, material) added before I give this a formal review. Also, this is just a side note, but I'd remove the Grade Saver reference (#9) as it appears to be nothing more than a direct copy of this article/section, 2001: A Space Odyssey (film)#Parodies and homages.
Please, don't worry if the nomination is not successful. I've had nominations fail in the past as well. FAC is a long working process that requires an intense amount of research and dedication. This is absolutely a GA but I'm not sure it's comprehensive enough to be an FA just yet. I wish you nothing but the best as you continue to work on this! -- Bcschneider53 ( talk) 18:34, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Closing comment: Given the standing oppose on this FAC, and the concerns of Bcschneider53, I will archive this shortly. It can be renominated after the usual 2-week waiting period, but I would recommend getting further eyes on the article if possible before renominating. Sarastro ( talk) 21:25, 22 February 2018 (UTC)