The article was promoted 23:59, 14 December 2007.
Self nomination. This article details the history of the first deep level tube railway and major electric railway - an important stage in the development of the London Underground and rail transport generally. It's already achieved Good Article status and I would like to hear others' thoughts on how it might be improved further. DavidCane 22:40, 3 November 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose I promoted the article to GA status, but it still needs some work. Firstly, the footnotes are poorly formatted. There only needs to be the author's last name, a year, a page number and a period at the end. Footnote number five needs a retrieval date. The other online footnotes are formatted correctly, it is only the print ones that are not.
There are also some inconsistencies in imperial and metric usage in the article. I would simply get rid of all the imperial (which I loathe) and use metric, however, I acknowledge wikipedia has a policy that does not discriminate as long as there is consistency. Unfortunately, in this article distance is in metric with imperial in parentheses, whereas the tunnels have the metric in parentheses. Please be consistent and choose on system as the preferred one (hopefully metric), or get rid one system entirely.
I also still think you have too many footnotes. I really don't see why you need multiple footnotes in one sentence, and I don't think that having footnotes where the stations names have been changed is important. I would also recommend consolidating some footnotes. You don't really need to have the same footnote in two consecutive sentences. If one sentence does not have a footnote, they can assume that the next footnote will refer to everything that has been written in the space between the prior footnote.
FA has a higher standard for writing than GA, and I find a lot of sentences to be short and choppy. Perhaps the best example of this is the sentence that goes 'This time the bill was rejected.' This is boring writing. Most of the article is very well written, with nice sentences, but if you get rid of some of the short the writing will be much improved and it won't feel choppy when read. Zeus1234 23:14, 3 November 2007 (UTC) reply
Support All of my concerns have been addressed. I am now supporting the ariticle for FA status. Zeus1234 10:50, 4 November 2007 (UTC) reply
Comment Any other suggestions anybody?-- DavidCane 23:22, 15 November 2007 (UTC) reply
The City & South London Railway (C&SLR) is considered to be the first deep-level underground "tube" railway in the world,[1] and also the first major railway in the world to use electric traction. Originally intended to be operated with cable-hauled trains, the collapse of the cable contractor whilst the railway was under construction forced a change to electric traction before the line opened - a still experimental technology at the time.
Then: "through", not "in". "high-backed seating"—hyphen please. MOS.
I won't go on. Here's a good opportunity to recruit a good copy-editor to WP from one of the countless railway-enthusiast clubs—surely there are such people. Try messaging online. If that's more a medium-term goal, try researching edit-summaries on the edit-history pages of other good railway articles. See who's good. Ask them nicely. Tony (talk) 02:23, 1 December 2007 (UTC) reply
Thank you Tony for your comments and Mailer Diablo for wiki-linking the references. Ironically, each reference was originally presented in the full style Tony prefers but this was changed during the GA review to the short style now seen which does have the utility of avoiding duplication of information.
The article was promoted 23:59, 14 December 2007.
Self nomination. This article details the history of the first deep level tube railway and major electric railway - an important stage in the development of the London Underground and rail transport generally. It's already achieved Good Article status and I would like to hear others' thoughts on how it might be improved further. DavidCane 22:40, 3 November 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose I promoted the article to GA status, but it still needs some work. Firstly, the footnotes are poorly formatted. There only needs to be the author's last name, a year, a page number and a period at the end. Footnote number five needs a retrieval date. The other online footnotes are formatted correctly, it is only the print ones that are not.
There are also some inconsistencies in imperial and metric usage in the article. I would simply get rid of all the imperial (which I loathe) and use metric, however, I acknowledge wikipedia has a policy that does not discriminate as long as there is consistency. Unfortunately, in this article distance is in metric with imperial in parentheses, whereas the tunnels have the metric in parentheses. Please be consistent and choose on system as the preferred one (hopefully metric), or get rid one system entirely.
I also still think you have too many footnotes. I really don't see why you need multiple footnotes in one sentence, and I don't think that having footnotes where the stations names have been changed is important. I would also recommend consolidating some footnotes. You don't really need to have the same footnote in two consecutive sentences. If one sentence does not have a footnote, they can assume that the next footnote will refer to everything that has been written in the space between the prior footnote.
FA has a higher standard for writing than GA, and I find a lot of sentences to be short and choppy. Perhaps the best example of this is the sentence that goes 'This time the bill was rejected.' This is boring writing. Most of the article is very well written, with nice sentences, but if you get rid of some of the short the writing will be much improved and it won't feel choppy when read. Zeus1234 23:14, 3 November 2007 (UTC) reply
Support All of my concerns have been addressed. I am now supporting the ariticle for FA status. Zeus1234 10:50, 4 November 2007 (UTC) reply
Comment Any other suggestions anybody?-- DavidCane 23:22, 15 November 2007 (UTC) reply
The City & South London Railway (C&SLR) is considered to be the first deep-level underground "tube" railway in the world,[1] and also the first major railway in the world to use electric traction. Originally intended to be operated with cable-hauled trains, the collapse of the cable contractor whilst the railway was under construction forced a change to electric traction before the line opened - a still experimental technology at the time.
Then: "through", not "in". "high-backed seating"—hyphen please. MOS.
I won't go on. Here's a good opportunity to recruit a good copy-editor to WP from one of the countless railway-enthusiast clubs—surely there are such people. Try messaging online. If that's more a medium-term goal, try researching edit-summaries on the edit-history pages of other good railway articles. See who's good. Ask them nicely. Tony (talk) 02:23, 1 December 2007 (UTC) reply
Thank you Tony for your comments and Mailer Diablo for wiki-linking the references. Ironically, each reference was originally presented in the full style Tony prefers but this was changed during the GA review to the short style now seen which does have the utility of avoiding duplication of information.