This article is about one of the rarest birds I've been lucky enough to see. Scoured sources. Got a thorough GA review. I think it is within striking distance of FA-hood.
Cas Liber (
talk·contribs) 09:25, 22 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Image review—pass What map of Australia did you use to create
File:Blackbreastedbuttonquailmap.png? Depending on the license it may require attribution. (
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c) buidhe 23:51, 22 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Damn...been so long. map source added to template nowCas Liber (
talk·contribs) 00:19, 23 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Comments Support from WA8MTWAYC
"The smaller male measures up to 18 cm (7.1 in)" ==> what's the length of the females?
Gah, leftover bit from fiddling with lead - fixed nowCas Liber (
talk·contribs) 00:01, 24 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Under Synonyms in the infobox, maybe you can put the publishing year (of the scientific name) behind the authors' names (if that's available)?
Found
this on Flickr, might be useful in the description section.
tricky as birds are facing left and on wide screen this would collide with taxobox if in description section, so moved down page. Male generally has a little more black than Gould depicted but it is variableCas Liber (
talk·contribs) 05:13, 5 May 2022 (UTC)reply
"The female measures up to 19 cm (7.5 in) in length, while the smaller male reaches 18 cm (7.1 in)" The specific sex-wise lengths aren't given in the body, just a generic "length varies from 17–19 cm". In fact, Madge and McGowan (which cites that part) doesn't seem to give sex-wise length at all.
dammit - can't find the source for that bit but have aligned text.Cas Liber (
talk·contribs) 04:29, 5 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Helm would be a better ref for the etymology and also gives it for the genus name.
switched - leaving genus to genus page unless you feel strongly about itCas Liber (
talk·contribs) 06:24, 28 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Any cladogram for the species?
I've note found an infrageneric one for Turnix sadlyCas Liber (
talk·contribs) 06:26, 28 April 2022 (UTC)reply
"of predominantly marbled black...brown" is clunky and an awkward read, perhaps "predominantly marbled black...brown in color" or similar would be better.
Support on the basis of prose from me.
AryKun (
talk) 12:38, 5 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Support from Gog the Mild
Recusing to review.
"the female is larger and more distinctively coloured than the male, with a distinctive black head". Optional: can anything be done about the "distinctively ... distinctive" repetition?
The male and female descriptions are in the same paragraph, but the juvenile description is split off into a single-sentence paragraph. Is there a reason?
"there were fears that they had suffered predation". I am unsure what this is saying. Is it known if the fears were justified? Does the past tense suggest that this is no longer feared?
I just removed the sentence as repeated in next one anywayCas Liber (
talk·contribs) 05:07, 3 May 2022 (UTC)reply
"dry rainforest". Any chance of an explanation for the lay reader of this oxymoronic term?
was gonna try and link somewhere...but need to figure (or create) a target page. I have a (rather rudimentary) link now.Cas Liber (
talk·contribs) 06:28, 5 May 2022 (UTC)reply
"It is the only buttonquail found in rainforest and dune scrub systems." The dune scrub habitat seems a bit of a throw away. Could this not be (explicitly) mentioned earlier.
"indicate this is restricted from October to March". Should this be 'indicate this is restricted to from October to March'? (Or 'to between October and March (inclusive)'.)
"hence this may be related to". I am a little unsure what "this" is.
it refers to the breeding season - thought it was unambiguous, not sure how to make it not sound repetititive...need to think about it.Cas Liber (
talk·contribs) 06:24, 5 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Rereading and knowing in advance what is meant, it still (really) isn't clear (to me) that "this" is breeding. It is possible that you are trying to cram too much into the one sentence?
Yeah I can see where you're coming from. I've been ruminating about this. Got a bit of a block. Okay I tried
this, what you think?Cas Liber (
talk·contribs) 23:52, 7 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Crystal clear IMO.
"establishes a territory while the males often form small territories within." Either "while" → 'which' or add 'it' to the end.
"the Commonwealth". I suspect that many readers will not know which commonwealth is intended, or assume one other than that which is.
Fair point, seems natural to me but I am Australian so changed to
thisCas Liber (
talk·contribs) 23:02, 30 April 2022 (UTC)reply
I don't think "Queensland" and "New South Wales" need to be in italic.
I'd been pondering this one - the two look funny unitalicised if the rest is..but then again the official names of the respective acts do not include the states..which renders them as simple adjectives not in title. FixedCas Liber (
talk·contribs) 22:59, 30 April 2022 (UTC)reply
"reducing threats to the bird and improving their habitat to ensure survival". Singular at first mention and plural at second. ("the ... their")
aligned. Back to it - unexpectedly social few days...Cas Liber (
talk·contribs) 22:57, 30 April 2022 (UTC)reply
You're inconsistent about including publisher locations in book sources. [4] and [5] have locations; none of the others do: [6], [9], [12], [13], [15], [17], [24], [26].
For [20], the archive link takes me to a page without the relevant information; if I can reach the right page by searching using the form on that page, I'd suggest adding a "loc=" parameter so the reader knows how to find the source.
Sources are reliable; there are old sources but they're used appropriately. No other formatting errors.
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This article is about one of the rarest birds I've been lucky enough to see. Scoured sources. Got a thorough GA review. I think it is within striking distance of FA-hood.
Cas Liber (
talk·contribs) 09:25, 22 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Image review—pass What map of Australia did you use to create
File:Blackbreastedbuttonquailmap.png? Depending on the license it may require attribution. (
t ·
c) buidhe 23:51, 22 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Damn...been so long. map source added to template nowCas Liber (
talk·contribs) 00:19, 23 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Comments Support from WA8MTWAYC
"The smaller male measures up to 18 cm (7.1 in)" ==> what's the length of the females?
Gah, leftover bit from fiddling with lead - fixed nowCas Liber (
talk·contribs) 00:01, 24 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Under Synonyms in the infobox, maybe you can put the publishing year (of the scientific name) behind the authors' names (if that's available)?
Found
this on Flickr, might be useful in the description section.
tricky as birds are facing left and on wide screen this would collide with taxobox if in description section, so moved down page. Male generally has a little more black than Gould depicted but it is variableCas Liber (
talk·contribs) 05:13, 5 May 2022 (UTC)reply
"The female measures up to 19 cm (7.5 in) in length, while the smaller male reaches 18 cm (7.1 in)" The specific sex-wise lengths aren't given in the body, just a generic "length varies from 17–19 cm". In fact, Madge and McGowan (which cites that part) doesn't seem to give sex-wise length at all.
dammit - can't find the source for that bit but have aligned text.Cas Liber (
talk·contribs) 04:29, 5 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Helm would be a better ref for the etymology and also gives it for the genus name.
switched - leaving genus to genus page unless you feel strongly about itCas Liber (
talk·contribs) 06:24, 28 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Any cladogram for the species?
I've note found an infrageneric one for Turnix sadlyCas Liber (
talk·contribs) 06:26, 28 April 2022 (UTC)reply
"of predominantly marbled black...brown" is clunky and an awkward read, perhaps "predominantly marbled black...brown in color" or similar would be better.
Support on the basis of prose from me.
AryKun (
talk) 12:38, 5 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Support from Gog the Mild
Recusing to review.
"the female is larger and more distinctively coloured than the male, with a distinctive black head". Optional: can anything be done about the "distinctively ... distinctive" repetition?
The male and female descriptions are in the same paragraph, but the juvenile description is split off into a single-sentence paragraph. Is there a reason?
"there were fears that they had suffered predation". I am unsure what this is saying. Is it known if the fears were justified? Does the past tense suggest that this is no longer feared?
I just removed the sentence as repeated in next one anywayCas Liber (
talk·contribs) 05:07, 3 May 2022 (UTC)reply
"dry rainforest". Any chance of an explanation for the lay reader of this oxymoronic term?
was gonna try and link somewhere...but need to figure (or create) a target page. I have a (rather rudimentary) link now.Cas Liber (
talk·contribs) 06:28, 5 May 2022 (UTC)reply
"It is the only buttonquail found in rainforest and dune scrub systems." The dune scrub habitat seems a bit of a throw away. Could this not be (explicitly) mentioned earlier.
"indicate this is restricted from October to March". Should this be 'indicate this is restricted to from October to March'? (Or 'to between October and March (inclusive)'.)
"hence this may be related to". I am a little unsure what "this" is.
it refers to the breeding season - thought it was unambiguous, not sure how to make it not sound repetititive...need to think about it.Cas Liber (
talk·contribs) 06:24, 5 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Rereading and knowing in advance what is meant, it still (really) isn't clear (to me) that "this" is breeding. It is possible that you are trying to cram too much into the one sentence?
Yeah I can see where you're coming from. I've been ruminating about this. Got a bit of a block. Okay I tried
this, what you think?Cas Liber (
talk·contribs) 23:52, 7 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Crystal clear IMO.
"establishes a territory while the males often form small territories within." Either "while" → 'which' or add 'it' to the end.
"the Commonwealth". I suspect that many readers will not know which commonwealth is intended, or assume one other than that which is.
Fair point, seems natural to me but I am Australian so changed to
thisCas Liber (
talk·contribs) 23:02, 30 April 2022 (UTC)reply
I don't think "Queensland" and "New South Wales" need to be in italic.
I'd been pondering this one - the two look funny unitalicised if the rest is..but then again the official names of the respective acts do not include the states..which renders them as simple adjectives not in title. FixedCas Liber (
talk·contribs) 22:59, 30 April 2022 (UTC)reply
"reducing threats to the bird and improving their habitat to ensure survival". Singular at first mention and plural at second. ("the ... their")
aligned. Back to it - unexpectedly social few days...Cas Liber (
talk·contribs) 22:57, 30 April 2022 (UTC)reply
You're inconsistent about including publisher locations in book sources. [4] and [5] have locations; none of the others do: [6], [9], [12], [13], [15], [17], [24], [26].
For [20], the archive link takes me to a page without the relevant information; if I can reach the right page by searching using the form on that page, I'd suggest adding a "loc=" parameter so the reader knows how to find the source.
Sources are reliable; there are old sources but they're used appropriately. No other formatting errors.
Mike Christie (
talk -
contribs -
library) 11:28, 2 May 2022 (UTC)reply
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Hog FarmTalk 15:16, 18 May 2022 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.