The twelfth and last instalment in my series of Featured Articles on South Australian Victoria Cross and George Cross recipients, Arthur Sullivan was a bank clerk who enlisted too late to serve in World War I. After the war ended he sought discharge from the Australian Army and joined the British North Russian Relief Force. He fought during the Allied intervention in the Russian Civil War, where he saved the lives of four members of his unit who had fallen into a river, some of whom had been wounded, and did all of this under intense fire from Bolshevik troops. Awarded the Victoria Cross, he survived the intervention and returned to Australia where he continued his successful career in banking. His reticence to talk of his exploits meant that he became known as the "Shy VC". He died in a freak accident while in London for the coronation of King George VI as part of the Australian Coronation Contingent in 1937. Have at it!
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 07:29, 18 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Image review
Some images are missing alt text, while the VC has two
Don't use fixed px size.
Nikkimaria (
talk) 17:10, 19 September 2020 (UTC)reply
I'll try to take a look at this soon. Probably gonna claim 5 WikiCup points for this.
Hog FarmBacon 02:16, 23 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Thanks, but don't bust a gut, Hog Farm. I'm going to have limited internet access from this Saturday till about 5 Oct.
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 02:26, 23 September 2020 (UTC)reply
But I have to have something to do during boring university classes
Hog FarmBacon 02:37, 23 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Infobox gives the birthplace as Crystal Brook, but the prose says he was technically born in Prospect, although he was raised in Crystal Brook. I get there's some question as to which one it was, based on the note, but you align with one in the prose and one in the body. Might be worth having the birthplace note in the infobox too, unless you consider it to be clutter
"On 30 October of the following year he returned to his home state" - Comma after year? I'm not good with commas, though, so I'll defer to your judgment on this.
"Chauvel was also a friend of Sullivan's and, as a director of the National Bank of Australasia, also knew Sullivan on a professional level." - Is there a way to remove one of the two alsos here
Support. I could find almost nothing to complain about. Below are a couple of very minor points and a question that I'm curious about, but these don't affect my support.
Australian recruits to the NRRF had to forego their repatriation rights: I think this must mean that the AIF would pay to bring Australian soldiers back to Australia, and this is the right that had to be given up, but I think it should be clearer -- perhaps a footnote.
All four would have drowned if it was not for Sullivan's gallant action: I don't think we need "gallant" -- the reader can see that for themselves. And "was" is wrong; it should be subjunctive, though that sounds odd to some ears. Suggest "All four would have drowned without Sullivan's action".
Due to legislative requirements, Sullivan's inquest was conducted with his coffin in the court: not at all necessary, but out of curiosity I'd be interested if this were linked (or redlinked) to the relevant law, if you know what it is.
Great question. A quick check indicates that s4 of the Coroners Act 1887 required the coroner and jury to view the body,
[2] so this may be what is being referred to here. For reasons of convenience it may have been the practice to bring the body (in the coffin of course) to the court so the coroner and jurors could view it. Quinlivian doesn't say this though, what he says is what is in the article at present.
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 02:28, 14 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Plan on hopefully getting this done tomorrow.
Hog FarmBacon 03:57, 14 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Sources are all reliable, and the weakest source, the SA BDM, is used sparingly and only in a footnote along with other sources.
"Arthur Percy Sullivan was born on 27 November 1896 at Prospect, South Australia,[a] the only child of Arthur Monks Sullivan, a storekeeper" - Source doesn't support that he was an only child, so far as I can tell
It was hidden in the citation cluster about his POB, copied to the end of the sentence.
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 00:58, 15 October 2020 (UTC)reply
"The National Bank of Australasia gave Dorothy a gratuity of £250, sufficient to purchase a cottage near Manly so she could be close to friends and family. In March 1939, Sullivan's mother presented an enlarged photograph of her son to the Crystal Brook Primary School" - Of these two sentences, only the second is backed up by the citation
"For most conspicuous bravery and devotion to duty on the 10th August 1919" - This is from the block VC quote. Both the National Archives and the London Gazette quotes include a comma after the word August
I've done some pretty large-scale spot checks, and this is all I can find. I'm pretty confident that this article does a good job of being faithful to the sources, although I can't access Quinlivian and Challinger, which are the two heaviest-used sources.
Hog FarmBacon 14:30, 14 October 2020 (UTC)reply
I'll leave some either tomorrow, or more likely the day after.
Aza24 (
talk) 04:04, 14 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Note to coords, I do some stuff with MILHIST occasionally, but I'm a non-expert here
Another note, in going through this I only find very minor issues, so feel free to disregard anything that you may disagree with – nothing here would prevent my support
28 May is also 1919? Would add just to avoid possible confusion with this date that seems to be especially important
Why is he referred to as "Arthur" instead of "Sullivan" after "Beginning on 9 February 1904"? If it's to avoid confusion with his parents I'm not sure that does much since his dad's name was Arthur as well
The last four sentences of Early life have two in a row that begin with "On" and then two that being with "He", some variation may be worth considering
Since he saw no action in WW1, I'm wording if this should be a note in the infobox or something after WW1? Not sure what procedure for this is
Actually, anyone who left Australia was considered to have served in WWI (and got the relevant medals, presumably on the basis that their troopship could have been sunk by a u-boat etc), so I don't think it is necessary to note in the infobox that he didn't see combat per se.
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 08:24, 18 October 2020 (UTC)reply
The Australian government specified that Australian recruits to the NRRF had to forego their right to be repatriated to Australia by the Australian government, and could not be married seems like redundant phrasing, surely "to Australia by the Australian government" is implied?
What is "D Company" referring to – can this be clarified? The current phrasing makes it sound like something different than 45th RF when I'm assuming it isn't?
That's all I got...
Aza24 (
talk) 04:46, 18 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Thanks so much for taking a look,
Aza24. I think I've addressed all your points, happy to discuss further. Cheers,
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 07:14, 19 October 2020 (UTC)reply
No need for that, I'm happy to Support this nomination for featured status.
Aza24 (
talk) 21:43, 19 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Comments Support by Pendright
Greetings PM - I have a few comments.
Lead
Sullivan was promoted to corporal in March 1919, but, wanting to see active service, sought his discharge from the AIF on 28 May.
Consider this -> Sullivan was promoted to corporal in March 1919, but wanting to see active service he sought and received his discharge from the AIF on 28 May.
He was in London for the coronation of King George VI as part of the Australian Coronation Contingent in 1937 when he died of head injuries received in a fall.
Sullivan was hospitalised with gonorrhea at Bulford between 25 November 1918 and 11 March 1919.[21][22] He was promoted to acting corporal on 23 March, and served as a camp orderly room corporal at Codford.[5][23][24]
After reading these two sentences a few times, the following things jumped out at me.
Was he still posted at Heytesbury, Wiltshire, while in the Bulford hospital, or had he been transferred?
What about "sexually transmitted disease" rather than gonorrhea?
The sources are explicit, so I think we can be. It was very common, of course.
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 07:00, 14 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Fair enough! Having served in the U.S. Navy for several years, I’m familiar with the term.
Pendright (
talk) 01:47, 15 October 2020 (UTC)reply
"Sullivan was hospitalised with gonorrhea" - this is about as straightforward as one can get. For my part, though, I think this delicate phrase would benefit from a few preliminary words like, While Sullivan was posted at xyz, he contracted and was hospitalized ... , or some other type of intro?
They were ferried across the river to the village of Yakovlevskoye and set off on the afternoon of 7 August,[42] on a wide sweeping approach march of nearly 31 miles (50 km) through a thick forest to be in position for the attack at 12:00 on 10 August.[43]
This is about a 50 word sentence -> Consider breaking it up into two sentences?
Without their commander and running low on ammunition, the remaining officers decided to try to break out rather than push on towards Seltso.[46][47]
Break out? spelling?
Not sure what you mean here. Breakout vs break out? This is written in AustEng, we tend to use British forms.
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 07:16, 14 October 2020 (UTC)reply
No problem! I thought I had checked it out - Sorry.
Pendright (
talk) 01:47, 15 October 2020 (UTC)reply
After the river crossing, the column partly broke up into small groups that made their way back to the British lines at Troitsa about 07:00.
On 9 April 1937, 34 days before King George VI's coronation, Sullivan attended an afternoon tea in St James's along with about fifty members of the ACC.
to breakup the sequence of numbers, suggest adding the adjective "just" between them?
Supporting! Always a pleasure -
Pendright (
talk) 01:47, 15 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Support Comments by JennyOz
Hi PM, I noticed this nom at 'older noms' a few days ago so started a review. Since then though there's been a lot of activity. Still I think there are a couple of tweaks not yet brought up so here are my questions and suggestions (and one tiny spelling insistence!)
Caption: Members of the 45th Battalion, The Royal Fusiliers in North Russia in 1919, including a seated Australian wearing a slouch hat - remove cap T?. Are there are two men (not one) seated with slouch hats?
hit by Bolshevik rifle and machine gun fire at a range of less than 330 feet (100 m). The fire from the Bolshevik ambush increased as the rearguard crossed, and four men fell into the swamp and were in danger of drowning. Despite the intense Bolshevik gunfire - 3 times "Bolshevik", could remove the second one?
Sorry, PM, no, not suggesting adding. It was just me amazed at his actions. I should have removed that from my notes before adding here.
JennyOz (
talk) 12:33, 20 October 2020 (UTC)reply
column partly broke up into small groups - remove partly? ie can't "partly" break up?
Section "Dvina offensive" could be broken up? (It includes the fighting, the VC action, the return to England and his return to Aust.) Maybe break at "British forces successfully evacuated" with new section 'Departure/Return from Russia',... or at "The Australians arrived in Plymouth on 9 October" with 'Home to Australia' or similar?
was promoted and had to be transferred to take up his new appointment as part of the bank's relieving staff. - was transferred do we know where?
Presumably Adelaide, but the source doesn't say other than implying he left Maitland.
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 06:59, 22 October 2020 (UTC)reply
They had three children, including twins, Moya born in 1931, and Brian and Shirley in 1933. - maybe better as 'They had three children, Moya born in 1931, and twins Brian and Shirley in 1933'?
Arthur Evans, VC, DCM, of the Lincolnshire Regiment - 'formerly' of the Lincolnshire Regiment? ie was serving in Australian Tank Corps at time of death?
On 9 April 1937, just 34 days before King George - "just" doesn't seem right here, sounds like 'only' and 34 days is quite a while. Maybe something more like 'a little over a month before'?
an afternoon tea in St James's along - is this at
St James's Palace (as opposed to the wlinked district) ie where diplomatic receptions are held?
The source makes it seem like in the district (which was then home to all sorts of men's clubs, palatial houses of the aristocracy etc), not the palace, because I think it would have said the palace if it meant that.
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 06:59, 22 October 2020 (UTC)reply
It appears that he left the tea party early - drop "It appears that"?
with his coffin in the court. - present in the court? (Actually,
this says the coffin was in a hearse in the courtyard. Because the inquest was held the very same day as the funeral at the Guards Chapel, I'd guess (yep, only a guess), that the funeral couldn't go ahead until inquest decision and his coffin was only waiting outside the court in case coroner Oddie decided he needed to view the body. Does Quinlivian say in the court or at the court?)
afforded a full military funeral - could wlink
military funeral though the UK section isn't very informative
His ashes were returned to Sydney - there was so much ceremony and such a long procession over the bridge to North Ryde! Too much to mention (
egand,
and,
etc) of course, but could change after "and a mourning party including nine VC recipients" for a procession to the Northern Suburbs Crematorium where his ashes were interred under a tree with the spot marked only by a simple metal plaque.
Added some detail from those contemporary newspaper sources. Thanks for finding them.
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 08:27, 22 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Category Australian World War I recipients of the Victoria Cross - broader cat Australian recipients of the Victoria Cross? (though I do see that
Samuel Pearse is also in the WWI cat)
That's all from me PM, sorry if I've doubled up on anything. A sad pleasure to read this,
JennyOz (
talk) 12:36, 18 October 2020 (UTC)reply
No, that is absolutely great thanks,
Jenny, I always light up when I see you've decided to review one of my noms. Always en pointe! Anything else that needs a tweak?
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 08:27, 22 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Thanks PM, this nom is a credit to you and another thorough rendition of a VC bio. I am very pleased to support it.
JennyOz (
talk) 11:36, 22 October 2020 (UTC)reply
@
FAC coordinators:
this is progressing well, and has a review from Mike (who is non-Milhist). Can I have a dispensation for a fresh nom, please? Thanks,
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 02:14, 15 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Sure PM, go ahead. Cheers,
Ian Rose (
talk) 08:57, 16 October 2020 (UTC)reply
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The twelfth and last instalment in my series of Featured Articles on South Australian Victoria Cross and George Cross recipients, Arthur Sullivan was a bank clerk who enlisted too late to serve in World War I. After the war ended he sought discharge from the Australian Army and joined the British North Russian Relief Force. He fought during the Allied intervention in the Russian Civil War, where he saved the lives of four members of his unit who had fallen into a river, some of whom had been wounded, and did all of this under intense fire from Bolshevik troops. Awarded the Victoria Cross, he survived the intervention and returned to Australia where he continued his successful career in banking. His reticence to talk of his exploits meant that he became known as the "Shy VC". He died in a freak accident while in London for the coronation of King George VI as part of the Australian Coronation Contingent in 1937. Have at it!
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 07:29, 18 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Image review
Some images are missing alt text, while the VC has two
Don't use fixed px size.
Nikkimaria (
talk) 17:10, 19 September 2020 (UTC)reply
I'll try to take a look at this soon. Probably gonna claim 5 WikiCup points for this.
Hog FarmBacon 02:16, 23 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Thanks, but don't bust a gut, Hog Farm. I'm going to have limited internet access from this Saturday till about 5 Oct.
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 02:26, 23 September 2020 (UTC)reply
But I have to have something to do during boring university classes
Hog FarmBacon 02:37, 23 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Infobox gives the birthplace as Crystal Brook, but the prose says he was technically born in Prospect, although he was raised in Crystal Brook. I get there's some question as to which one it was, based on the note, but you align with one in the prose and one in the body. Might be worth having the birthplace note in the infobox too, unless you consider it to be clutter
"On 30 October of the following year he returned to his home state" - Comma after year? I'm not good with commas, though, so I'll defer to your judgment on this.
"Chauvel was also a friend of Sullivan's and, as a director of the National Bank of Australasia, also knew Sullivan on a professional level." - Is there a way to remove one of the two alsos here
Support. I could find almost nothing to complain about. Below are a couple of very minor points and a question that I'm curious about, but these don't affect my support.
Australian recruits to the NRRF had to forego their repatriation rights: I think this must mean that the AIF would pay to bring Australian soldiers back to Australia, and this is the right that had to be given up, but I think it should be clearer -- perhaps a footnote.
All four would have drowned if it was not for Sullivan's gallant action: I don't think we need "gallant" -- the reader can see that for themselves. And "was" is wrong; it should be subjunctive, though that sounds odd to some ears. Suggest "All four would have drowned without Sullivan's action".
Due to legislative requirements, Sullivan's inquest was conducted with his coffin in the court: not at all necessary, but out of curiosity I'd be interested if this were linked (or redlinked) to the relevant law, if you know what it is.
Great question. A quick check indicates that s4 of the Coroners Act 1887 required the coroner and jury to view the body,
[2] so this may be what is being referred to here. For reasons of convenience it may have been the practice to bring the body (in the coffin of course) to the court so the coroner and jurors could view it. Quinlivian doesn't say this though, what he says is what is in the article at present.
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 02:28, 14 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Plan on hopefully getting this done tomorrow.
Hog FarmBacon 03:57, 14 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Sources are all reliable, and the weakest source, the SA BDM, is used sparingly and only in a footnote along with other sources.
"Arthur Percy Sullivan was born on 27 November 1896 at Prospect, South Australia,[a] the only child of Arthur Monks Sullivan, a storekeeper" - Source doesn't support that he was an only child, so far as I can tell
It was hidden in the citation cluster about his POB, copied to the end of the sentence.
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 00:58, 15 October 2020 (UTC)reply
"The National Bank of Australasia gave Dorothy a gratuity of £250, sufficient to purchase a cottage near Manly so she could be close to friends and family. In March 1939, Sullivan's mother presented an enlarged photograph of her son to the Crystal Brook Primary School" - Of these two sentences, only the second is backed up by the citation
"For most conspicuous bravery and devotion to duty on the 10th August 1919" - This is from the block VC quote. Both the National Archives and the London Gazette quotes include a comma after the word August
I've done some pretty large-scale spot checks, and this is all I can find. I'm pretty confident that this article does a good job of being faithful to the sources, although I can't access Quinlivian and Challinger, which are the two heaviest-used sources.
Hog FarmBacon 14:30, 14 October 2020 (UTC)reply
I'll leave some either tomorrow, or more likely the day after.
Aza24 (
talk) 04:04, 14 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Note to coords, I do some stuff with MILHIST occasionally, but I'm a non-expert here
Another note, in going through this I only find very minor issues, so feel free to disregard anything that you may disagree with – nothing here would prevent my support
28 May is also 1919? Would add just to avoid possible confusion with this date that seems to be especially important
Why is he referred to as "Arthur" instead of "Sullivan" after "Beginning on 9 February 1904"? If it's to avoid confusion with his parents I'm not sure that does much since his dad's name was Arthur as well
The last four sentences of Early life have two in a row that begin with "On" and then two that being with "He", some variation may be worth considering
Since he saw no action in WW1, I'm wording if this should be a note in the infobox or something after WW1? Not sure what procedure for this is
Actually, anyone who left Australia was considered to have served in WWI (and got the relevant medals, presumably on the basis that their troopship could have been sunk by a u-boat etc), so I don't think it is necessary to note in the infobox that he didn't see combat per se.
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 08:24, 18 October 2020 (UTC)reply
The Australian government specified that Australian recruits to the NRRF had to forego their right to be repatriated to Australia by the Australian government, and could not be married seems like redundant phrasing, surely "to Australia by the Australian government" is implied?
What is "D Company" referring to – can this be clarified? The current phrasing makes it sound like something different than 45th RF when I'm assuming it isn't?
That's all I got...
Aza24 (
talk) 04:46, 18 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Thanks so much for taking a look,
Aza24. I think I've addressed all your points, happy to discuss further. Cheers,
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 07:14, 19 October 2020 (UTC)reply
No need for that, I'm happy to Support this nomination for featured status.
Aza24 (
talk) 21:43, 19 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Comments Support by Pendright
Greetings PM - I have a few comments.
Lead
Sullivan was promoted to corporal in March 1919, but, wanting to see active service, sought his discharge from the AIF on 28 May.
Consider this -> Sullivan was promoted to corporal in March 1919, but wanting to see active service he sought and received his discharge from the AIF on 28 May.
He was in London for the coronation of King George VI as part of the Australian Coronation Contingent in 1937 when he died of head injuries received in a fall.
Sullivan was hospitalised with gonorrhea at Bulford between 25 November 1918 and 11 March 1919.[21][22] He was promoted to acting corporal on 23 March, and served as a camp orderly room corporal at Codford.[5][23][24]
After reading these two sentences a few times, the following things jumped out at me.
Was he still posted at Heytesbury, Wiltshire, while in the Bulford hospital, or had he been transferred?
What about "sexually transmitted disease" rather than gonorrhea?
The sources are explicit, so I think we can be. It was very common, of course.
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 07:00, 14 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Fair enough! Having served in the U.S. Navy for several years, I’m familiar with the term.
Pendright (
talk) 01:47, 15 October 2020 (UTC)reply
"Sullivan was hospitalised with gonorrhea" - this is about as straightforward as one can get. For my part, though, I think this delicate phrase would benefit from a few preliminary words like, While Sullivan was posted at xyz, he contracted and was hospitalized ... , or some other type of intro?
They were ferried across the river to the village of Yakovlevskoye and set off on the afternoon of 7 August,[42] on a wide sweeping approach march of nearly 31 miles (50 km) through a thick forest to be in position for the attack at 12:00 on 10 August.[43]
This is about a 50 word sentence -> Consider breaking it up into two sentences?
Without their commander and running low on ammunition, the remaining officers decided to try to break out rather than push on towards Seltso.[46][47]
Break out? spelling?
Not sure what you mean here. Breakout vs break out? This is written in AustEng, we tend to use British forms.
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 07:16, 14 October 2020 (UTC)reply
No problem! I thought I had checked it out - Sorry.
Pendright (
talk) 01:47, 15 October 2020 (UTC)reply
After the river crossing, the column partly broke up into small groups that made their way back to the British lines at Troitsa about 07:00.
On 9 April 1937, 34 days before King George VI's coronation, Sullivan attended an afternoon tea in St James's along with about fifty members of the ACC.
to breakup the sequence of numbers, suggest adding the adjective "just" between them?
Supporting! Always a pleasure -
Pendright (
talk) 01:47, 15 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Support Comments by JennyOz
Hi PM, I noticed this nom at 'older noms' a few days ago so started a review. Since then though there's been a lot of activity. Still I think there are a couple of tweaks not yet brought up so here are my questions and suggestions (and one tiny spelling insistence!)
Caption: Members of the 45th Battalion, The Royal Fusiliers in North Russia in 1919, including a seated Australian wearing a slouch hat - remove cap T?. Are there are two men (not one) seated with slouch hats?
hit by Bolshevik rifle and machine gun fire at a range of less than 330 feet (100 m). The fire from the Bolshevik ambush increased as the rearguard crossed, and four men fell into the swamp and were in danger of drowning. Despite the intense Bolshevik gunfire - 3 times "Bolshevik", could remove the second one?
Sorry, PM, no, not suggesting adding. It was just me amazed at his actions. I should have removed that from my notes before adding here.
JennyOz (
talk) 12:33, 20 October 2020 (UTC)reply
column partly broke up into small groups - remove partly? ie can't "partly" break up?
Section "Dvina offensive" could be broken up? (It includes the fighting, the VC action, the return to England and his return to Aust.) Maybe break at "British forces successfully evacuated" with new section 'Departure/Return from Russia',... or at "The Australians arrived in Plymouth on 9 October" with 'Home to Australia' or similar?
was promoted and had to be transferred to take up his new appointment as part of the bank's relieving staff. - was transferred do we know where?
Presumably Adelaide, but the source doesn't say other than implying he left Maitland.
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 06:59, 22 October 2020 (UTC)reply
They had three children, including twins, Moya born in 1931, and Brian and Shirley in 1933. - maybe better as 'They had three children, Moya born in 1931, and twins Brian and Shirley in 1933'?
Arthur Evans, VC, DCM, of the Lincolnshire Regiment - 'formerly' of the Lincolnshire Regiment? ie was serving in Australian Tank Corps at time of death?
On 9 April 1937, just 34 days before King George - "just" doesn't seem right here, sounds like 'only' and 34 days is quite a while. Maybe something more like 'a little over a month before'?
an afternoon tea in St James's along - is this at
St James's Palace (as opposed to the wlinked district) ie where diplomatic receptions are held?
The source makes it seem like in the district (which was then home to all sorts of men's clubs, palatial houses of the aristocracy etc), not the palace, because I think it would have said the palace if it meant that.
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 06:59, 22 October 2020 (UTC)reply
It appears that he left the tea party early - drop "It appears that"?
with his coffin in the court. - present in the court? (Actually,
this says the coffin was in a hearse in the courtyard. Because the inquest was held the very same day as the funeral at the Guards Chapel, I'd guess (yep, only a guess), that the funeral couldn't go ahead until inquest decision and his coffin was only waiting outside the court in case coroner Oddie decided he needed to view the body. Does Quinlivian say in the court or at the court?)
afforded a full military funeral - could wlink
military funeral though the UK section isn't very informative
His ashes were returned to Sydney - there was so much ceremony and such a long procession over the bridge to North Ryde! Too much to mention (
egand,
and,
etc) of course, but could change after "and a mourning party including nine VC recipients" for a procession to the Northern Suburbs Crematorium where his ashes were interred under a tree with the spot marked only by a simple metal plaque.
Added some detail from those contemporary newspaper sources. Thanks for finding them.
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 08:27, 22 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Category Australian World War I recipients of the Victoria Cross - broader cat Australian recipients of the Victoria Cross? (though I do see that
Samuel Pearse is also in the WWI cat)
That's all from me PM, sorry if I've doubled up on anything. A sad pleasure to read this,
JennyOz (
talk) 12:36, 18 October 2020 (UTC)reply
No, that is absolutely great thanks,
Jenny, I always light up when I see you've decided to review one of my noms. Always en pointe! Anything else that needs a tweak?
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 08:27, 22 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Thanks PM, this nom is a credit to you and another thorough rendition of a VC bio. I am very pleased to support it.
JennyOz (
talk) 11:36, 22 October 2020 (UTC)reply
@
FAC coordinators:
this is progressing well, and has a review from Mike (who is non-Milhist). Can I have a dispensation for a fresh nom, please? Thanks,
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 02:14, 15 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Sure PM, go ahead. Cheers,
Ian Rose (
talk) 08:57, 16 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Closing note: This
candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see
WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the
bot goes through. --
Laser brain(talk) 15:14, 23 October 2020 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.