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22 January 2023

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Hurricane Polo (2014) ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

Only 3 participants, 2 merge and 1 keep. Should be relisted for broader participation amidst a small and non unanimous discussion. 72.80.246.5 ( talk) 00:39, 22 January 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Participation was limited, but the only keep vote, which I presume was yours, did not provide a policy-based reason for keeping. No evidence of notability was put forward, and no evidence was put forward to show that a standalone page was needed. Rather than wasting more community time here, and (if relisted) at AfD again, why not expand the target article yourself? A merger does not rule out a future spinoff if sufficient encyclopedic material is found. Vanamonde ( Talk) 00:47, 22 January 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Relist, as AFC accepting reviewer, meaning that I thought it had a >50% change of passing AFD. The guidelines for tropical storm articles are vague, so that both a strict interpretation and an expansive interpretation are consistent with the guideline, and AFDs show that lack of clarity. Robert McClenon ( talk) 09:36, 22 January 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse, there is no need to relist a deletion discussion in which nobody - even the nominator - has argued for deletion. The debate about whether to merge or not can, if necessary, continue in article talk space without the need for a misleading and ugly red box on an article. In this case, considering the lack of any policy-based rationale for the "keep" vote, I think Vanamonde's closure of merge is reasonable. – filelakeshoe ( t / c) 🐱 13:55, 22 January 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse as the lone keep vote was not at all based in policy, while the nom and other merge vote properly cited WP:NWEATHER and WP:NOPAGE as to why this subject is not notable as a stand-alone article. While more participation would have been ideal, it is not a requirement to assess consensus. Frank Anchor 17:57, 22 January 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse as correct reading of consensus after weighing the arguments of everyone involved. — Alalch E. 19:02, 22 January 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse. The merge side is IMO substantially stronger (citing WP:NEVENTS and WP:NOPAGE compared with the lone keep vote, which opined it was notable and participants could look into more information without specifying a policy or guideline. VickKiang (talk) 21:11, 22 January 2023 (UTC) reply
  • The storm is fundamentally notable. It killed 1-4 people and caused $7.6 million in damage(which is a lot in Mexico), and we have articles on a lot of less significant US storms. Seems like ethnocentrism to me. 100.12.169.218 ( talk) 21:09, 23 January 2023 (UTC) reply
    Systemic bias is absolutely a problem on Wikipedia, but the solution to other articles of less significance existing is to nominate those for deletion rather than having yet more non-notable subjects. Stifle ( talk) 10:10, 24 January 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse, reasonable reading of consensus. Stifle ( talk) 10:10, 24 January 2023 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

22 January 2023

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Hurricane Polo (2014) ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

Only 3 participants, 2 merge and 1 keep. Should be relisted for broader participation amidst a small and non unanimous discussion. 72.80.246.5 ( talk) 00:39, 22 January 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Participation was limited, but the only keep vote, which I presume was yours, did not provide a policy-based reason for keeping. No evidence of notability was put forward, and no evidence was put forward to show that a standalone page was needed. Rather than wasting more community time here, and (if relisted) at AfD again, why not expand the target article yourself? A merger does not rule out a future spinoff if sufficient encyclopedic material is found. Vanamonde ( Talk) 00:47, 22 January 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Relist, as AFC accepting reviewer, meaning that I thought it had a >50% change of passing AFD. The guidelines for tropical storm articles are vague, so that both a strict interpretation and an expansive interpretation are consistent with the guideline, and AFDs show that lack of clarity. Robert McClenon ( talk) 09:36, 22 January 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse, there is no need to relist a deletion discussion in which nobody - even the nominator - has argued for deletion. The debate about whether to merge or not can, if necessary, continue in article talk space without the need for a misleading and ugly red box on an article. In this case, considering the lack of any policy-based rationale for the "keep" vote, I think Vanamonde's closure of merge is reasonable. – filelakeshoe ( t / c) 🐱 13:55, 22 January 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse as the lone keep vote was not at all based in policy, while the nom and other merge vote properly cited WP:NWEATHER and WP:NOPAGE as to why this subject is not notable as a stand-alone article. While more participation would have been ideal, it is not a requirement to assess consensus. Frank Anchor 17:57, 22 January 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse as correct reading of consensus after weighing the arguments of everyone involved. — Alalch E. 19:02, 22 January 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse. The merge side is IMO substantially stronger (citing WP:NEVENTS and WP:NOPAGE compared with the lone keep vote, which opined it was notable and participants could look into more information without specifying a policy or guideline. VickKiang (talk) 21:11, 22 January 2023 (UTC) reply
  • The storm is fundamentally notable. It killed 1-4 people and caused $7.6 million in damage(which is a lot in Mexico), and we have articles on a lot of less significant US storms. Seems like ethnocentrism to me. 100.12.169.218 ( talk) 21:09, 23 January 2023 (UTC) reply
    Systemic bias is absolutely a problem on Wikipedia, but the solution to other articles of less significance existing is to nominate those for deletion rather than having yet more non-notable subjects. Stifle ( talk) 10:10, 24 January 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse, reasonable reading of consensus. Stifle ( talk) 10:10, 24 January 2023 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.

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