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The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it. |
A non-admin closed a week-old AfD for UP Halcyon. I think the AfD should have been continued, reposted, for at least another week on this basis: The discussion was shut down far too soon after major improvements were made, thus allowing insufficient time for voters to re-assess. The original article, while well-written and non-promotional was lacking citations. When it was suddenly PRODed I objected, desirous of fixing it. The proposer then placed it in an AfD vote. In that single week I cleaned up the page and added two references. Another editor added six more references, all of them correctly cited. During the brief vote period, several editors voiced an early, short opinion, "Delete, no sources" or something like that, and most dialog occurred prior to substantive improvements to the article. I believe we have fixed the page, addressed the original (valid) concern about a lack of sources, and have established validity (~the group exists) and that it is notable, as an important part of its community. Therefore I'd like to give time for cooler heads to reassess. Note, the non-admin who closed the discussion created it as a REDIRECT. I do not believe this to be a helpful resolution. My opinion remains that the UP Halcyon article should be Kept, but I hoped the voters would come to that conclusion after seeing our improvements. The last six references were added only a day or so prior to deletion - maybe 30 hours had passed (I cannot see the page history to check). Voters didn't have much of a chance to see these improvements. I asked the user to re-list, but he/she declined. Jax MN ( talk) 20:39, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
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The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it. |
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The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it. |
A non-admin closed a week-old AfD for UP Halcyon. I think the AfD should have been continued, reposted, for at least another week on this basis: The discussion was shut down far too soon after major improvements were made, thus allowing insufficient time for voters to re-assess. The original article, while well-written and non-promotional was lacking citations. When it was suddenly PRODed I objected, desirous of fixing it. The proposer then placed it in an AfD vote. In that single week I cleaned up the page and added two references. Another editor added six more references, all of them correctly cited. During the brief vote period, several editors voiced an early, short opinion, "Delete, no sources" or something like that, and most dialog occurred prior to substantive improvements to the article. I believe we have fixed the page, addressed the original (valid) concern about a lack of sources, and have established validity (~the group exists) and that it is notable, as an important part of its community. Therefore I'd like to give time for cooler heads to reassess. Note, the non-admin who closed the discussion created it as a REDIRECT. I do not believe this to be a helpful resolution. My opinion remains that the UP Halcyon article should be Kept, but I hoped the voters would come to that conclusion after seeing our improvements. The last six references were added only a day or so prior to deletion - maybe 30 hours had passed (I cannot see the page history to check). Voters didn't have much of a chance to see these improvements. I asked the user to re-list, but he/she declined. Jax MN ( talk) 20:39, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
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The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it. |