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18 June 2017

  • John O'Hara (musician) – Restore per WP:SOFTDELETE. As has been pointed out, the AFD was treated like an expired PROD. That there might have been reasons to keep it deleted is not relevant, only whether this article would have been restored if the request had been correctly made at WP:REFUND. Since it's a BLP without sources, I restored it to Draft:John O'Hara (musician) though. – So Why 13:22, 19 June 2017 (UTC) reply
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
John O'Hara (musician) ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

Notoriety since deletion in 2009. Significant new information has come to light. Billboard chart #1 Jethro Tull: The String Quartets: /info/en/?search=Jethro_Tull_–_The_String_Quartets. Other albums include Thick As A Brick 2. Homo Erraticus, conductor/arranger Quadrophenia Theatre production UK, 2009. Quadrophenia theatre tour. Jethro Tull Orchestral DVD and more. As a composer: Welsh National Opera, U.K.- title, I Had An Angel. Three Choirs International Music Festival 2013, U.K.- title, The Bargee's Wife: http://seenandheard-international.com/2013/08/the-bargees-wife-closes-the-three-choirs-festival-impressively/. Cheltenham International Music Festival 2017, U.K. - title The Gloucester Magnificat. Theatre Music, Bristol Old Vic, U.K. title Trojan Women 2016. More…The article need updating once reinstated. LucyLou2002 ( talk) 16:30, 18 June 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Endorse, while normally a charting album is a pretty good case at DRV, this isn't actually a John O'Hara album. It's an Ian Anderson album on which is heard a string quartet conducted by John O'Hara. The important thing is: is there in-depth biographical coverage in multiple independent reliable sources on this person from which we could write a BLP article? As far as I can tell, there isn't. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 19:58, 18 June 2017 (UTC) reply
  • The afd's eight years old and was closed as a soft delete besides, so there's no problem if someone wants to make an article here (given proper sourcing, per Starblind, of course). At a minimum, a redirect to Jethro Tull seems like it would be worthwhile. — Cryptic 21:14, 18 June 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Restore. We weren't using the term soft delete at the time of the AfD, but that's essentially what this was, as Cryptic points out. That process says, the article can be restored for any reason on request, and we have a request here, so we should restore it. Starblind is correct that it still needs proper sourcing, but that question should be decided at AfD, and after restoration, anybody is free to bring it there. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:32, 18 June 2017 (UTC) reply
BTW, I'm a little concerned that the nom is a WP:SPA ( contributions) but since the request is perfectly reasonable, I can't find it in me to make much of a fuss over that. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:34, 18 June 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Restore and maybe put in draft for a bit until appropriate additional sources are added. This is a BLP, after all. Jclemens ( talk) 02:07, 19 June 2017 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

18 June 2017

  • John O'Hara (musician) – Restore per WP:SOFTDELETE. As has been pointed out, the AFD was treated like an expired PROD. That there might have been reasons to keep it deleted is not relevant, only whether this article would have been restored if the request had been correctly made at WP:REFUND. Since it's a BLP without sources, I restored it to Draft:John O'Hara (musician) though. – So Why 13:22, 19 June 2017 (UTC) reply
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
John O'Hara (musician) ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

Notoriety since deletion in 2009. Significant new information has come to light. Billboard chart #1 Jethro Tull: The String Quartets: /info/en/?search=Jethro_Tull_–_The_String_Quartets. Other albums include Thick As A Brick 2. Homo Erraticus, conductor/arranger Quadrophenia Theatre production UK, 2009. Quadrophenia theatre tour. Jethro Tull Orchestral DVD and more. As a composer: Welsh National Opera, U.K.- title, I Had An Angel. Three Choirs International Music Festival 2013, U.K.- title, The Bargee's Wife: http://seenandheard-international.com/2013/08/the-bargees-wife-closes-the-three-choirs-festival-impressively/. Cheltenham International Music Festival 2017, U.K. - title The Gloucester Magnificat. Theatre Music, Bristol Old Vic, U.K. title Trojan Women 2016. More…The article need updating once reinstated. LucyLou2002 ( talk) 16:30, 18 June 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Endorse, while normally a charting album is a pretty good case at DRV, this isn't actually a John O'Hara album. It's an Ian Anderson album on which is heard a string quartet conducted by John O'Hara. The important thing is: is there in-depth biographical coverage in multiple independent reliable sources on this person from which we could write a BLP article? As far as I can tell, there isn't. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 19:58, 18 June 2017 (UTC) reply
  • The afd's eight years old and was closed as a soft delete besides, so there's no problem if someone wants to make an article here (given proper sourcing, per Starblind, of course). At a minimum, a redirect to Jethro Tull seems like it would be worthwhile. — Cryptic 21:14, 18 June 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Restore. We weren't using the term soft delete at the time of the AfD, but that's essentially what this was, as Cryptic points out. That process says, the article can be restored for any reason on request, and we have a request here, so we should restore it. Starblind is correct that it still needs proper sourcing, but that question should be decided at AfD, and after restoration, anybody is free to bring it there. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:32, 18 June 2017 (UTC) reply
BTW, I'm a little concerned that the nom is a WP:SPA ( contributions) but since the request is perfectly reasonable, I can't find it in me to make much of a fuss over that. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:34, 18 June 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Restore and maybe put in draft for a bit until appropriate additional sources are added. This is a BLP, after all. Jclemens ( talk) 02:07, 19 June 2017 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.

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