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The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it. |
Presumably the article was deleted following a deletion discussion (rather than as a result of speedy deletion), in which case the DRVPURPOSE choice which applies would appear to be that the closer of the deletion discussion interpreted the consensus incorrectly or that there was substantial procedural error. Contrary to WP:GNG, the major stakeholders were never notified of the proposed deletion or given time to respond. Paul McDonald wondered in the deletion discussion whether the club was a "club" or a "university club" but failed to work out that the Sydney Uni Lions is the team entered by the Sydney University American Football Club in Division One of Gridiron New South Wales, and that the Sydney University American Football Club is a constituent member of Sydney Uni Sport & Fitness, the body which administers all sporting activities at the University of Sydney. There is no excuse for not having worked this out as this information was set out in the article. Here is a link to the club page on the Sydney Uni Sport & Fitness website ( http://www.susf.com.au/page/american_football.html). Sydney Uni Sport & Fitness is the most successful sporting body in Australia. If it was a country, it would have beaten Mexico at the recent London Olympics. The American Football Club was awarded "Club of the Year" by Sydney Uni Sport & Fitness for 2012. That was the fourth time in its 30 year history that it has received the award. The closer of the deletion discussion failed to notify the University of Sydney, Sydney Uni Sport & Fitness or the Sydney University American Football Club of the proposed deletion of the article. Further, the reason given for deleting the article in the discussion - that the topic has not been the subject of significant coverage in reliable sources - is erroneous. The topic in the article has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject for over 30 years. I can provide scanned copies of various newspaper articles, if necessary. The information in the article spans the 30 year history of the club, so it is unsurprising that current newspaper articles do not mention some aspects of the topic. Most recently, a report on the Sydney Uni Lions winning the 2013 National Club Championship was published in Roar Magazine (circulation of 50,000). The recent 2013 GNSW championship game won by the Sydney Uni Lions was webcast live and seen all over the world. I would argue that this is significant coverage in a reliable source that was independent of the subject. So reliable that you could verify it with your own eyes. In any event, if the closer of the deletion discussion (whoever that was) needs me to place the evidence of the significant coverage of the Sydney Uni LIons directly into his hands, then I am happy to do so. (NB:Copied from User talk:Ronhjones) for 123.243.19.45 ( talk) 01:37, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
I can follow how to create an account but do not see how allowing the article to be userfied would assist in the process of getting it reinstated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.19.45 ( talk) 09:14, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Fair comment, Lankiveil. I am very much in favour of there being a discussion and that it proceed in good faith. I will hold my sarcasm in check. This is my first journey through the looking glass into Wikipedia and due process as practised in the real world does not seem to apply down here. Perhaps, in return, you can acknowledge that Wikipedia's high-handed approach in this matter has been the cause of much unnecessary frustration and annoyance. Please note that no one has answered my query as to how I can provide hard copies of relevant references to demonstrate the significant coverage of the Sydney Uni Lions over the last 30 years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.19.45 ( talk) 09:51, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
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The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it. |
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The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it. |
Presumably the article was deleted following a deletion discussion (rather than as a result of speedy deletion), in which case the DRVPURPOSE choice which applies would appear to be that the closer of the deletion discussion interpreted the consensus incorrectly or that there was substantial procedural error. Contrary to WP:GNG, the major stakeholders were never notified of the proposed deletion or given time to respond. Paul McDonald wondered in the deletion discussion whether the club was a "club" or a "university club" but failed to work out that the Sydney Uni Lions is the team entered by the Sydney University American Football Club in Division One of Gridiron New South Wales, and that the Sydney University American Football Club is a constituent member of Sydney Uni Sport & Fitness, the body which administers all sporting activities at the University of Sydney. There is no excuse for not having worked this out as this information was set out in the article. Here is a link to the club page on the Sydney Uni Sport & Fitness website ( http://www.susf.com.au/page/american_football.html). Sydney Uni Sport & Fitness is the most successful sporting body in Australia. If it was a country, it would have beaten Mexico at the recent London Olympics. The American Football Club was awarded "Club of the Year" by Sydney Uni Sport & Fitness for 2012. That was the fourth time in its 30 year history that it has received the award. The closer of the deletion discussion failed to notify the University of Sydney, Sydney Uni Sport & Fitness or the Sydney University American Football Club of the proposed deletion of the article. Further, the reason given for deleting the article in the discussion - that the topic has not been the subject of significant coverage in reliable sources - is erroneous. The topic in the article has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject for over 30 years. I can provide scanned copies of various newspaper articles, if necessary. The information in the article spans the 30 year history of the club, so it is unsurprising that current newspaper articles do not mention some aspects of the topic. Most recently, a report on the Sydney Uni Lions winning the 2013 National Club Championship was published in Roar Magazine (circulation of 50,000). The recent 2013 GNSW championship game won by the Sydney Uni Lions was webcast live and seen all over the world. I would argue that this is significant coverage in a reliable source that was independent of the subject. So reliable that you could verify it with your own eyes. In any event, if the closer of the deletion discussion (whoever that was) needs me to place the evidence of the significant coverage of the Sydney Uni LIons directly into his hands, then I am happy to do so. (NB:Copied from User talk:Ronhjones) for 123.243.19.45 ( talk) 01:37, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
I can follow how to create an account but do not see how allowing the article to be userfied would assist in the process of getting it reinstated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.19.45 ( talk) 09:14, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Fair comment, Lankiveil. I am very much in favour of there being a discussion and that it proceed in good faith. I will hold my sarcasm in check. This is my first journey through the looking glass into Wikipedia and due process as practised in the real world does not seem to apply down here. Perhaps, in return, you can acknowledge that Wikipedia's high-handed approach in this matter has been the cause of much unnecessary frustration and annoyance. Please note that no one has answered my query as to how I can provide hard copies of relevant references to demonstrate the significant coverage of the Sydney Uni Lions over the last 30 years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.19.45 ( talk) 09:51, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
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The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it. |