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21 April 2014

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<Not Notable Company>

Media Idee • ( talk | logs | links | watch | afd ) • [revisions] Enter your reasoning here and then click the "Save page" button below -115.186.121.30 (talk) 20:37, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Hello. The Page 'Media Idee' was deleted for the company not being notable at the time.

Since then, the following are some of the projects that have gotten it into the limelight:

The biggest one is the Organization of the first ever Dolphin Show in Pakistan. Please see http://www.dolphinshow.org/partner.php and www.facebook.com/dolphinshowkarachi for proof that MI was the main organizer. Just Google 'Dolphin Show Karachi' and you will get about a 100 links back from major media companies in the country discussing that including some that actually Cite Media Idee. This is one FB page which lists the event's as MI: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Media-Idee/346860588664883.

Some pages which list MI are: http://tcsconnect.com/dolphin-show-ticket-12897.html

http://www.awamiweb.com/dolphin-show-in-karachi-from-10th-of-january-67671.html

http://www.mediakorner.com/pakistans-first-ever-dolphin-show/

Media Idee is also part of PAS - The ruling body for all advertisers and agencies.

PAS - Pakistan Advertisers' Society: http://www.pas.org.pk/media-idee-celebrates-8th-birthday/

Other Links Include: http://trango.co/interview-with-umair-mohsin-of-media-idee/

http://www.pas.org.pk/mira-media-idee-research-analytics/

http://www.crunchbase.com/company/mi-digital

http://www.midigital.co/nestle-fruita-vitals-production-handled-mi-productions/

Network Companies include: www.miproductions.tv

www.mievents.asia

www.creativecom.co

Off-topic copy-pasting

X mark.svg Not done - this Requests for Undeletion process is only for articles that were deleted uncontroversially, and does not apply to articles deleted after a deletion discussion. Since the article you are here about was deleted after a discussion took place at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Media Idee, it cannot be undeleted through this process. However, if you believe that the outcome of the discussion did not reflect the consensus of the participants, or that significant new information has come to light since the article was deleted, you may contact the administrator who closed the discussion, user Mark Arsten (talk · contribs). After you do so, if your concerns are not addressed and you still seek undeletion, a request may be made at deletion review. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 05:47, 21 April 2014 (UTC)


Please note that User MARK ARSTEN is no longer available to talk to. The company in question is now quite notable as can be verified through links pasted above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.209.82.46 ( talk) 11:19, 21 April 2014 (UTC) reply

User talk:Mark Arsten From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia This user has administrator privileges on the English Wikipedia. Important notice Mark Arsten is taking an indefinite break from Wikipedia for personal reasons. As such, he would wish not to be contacted at this talk page unless it's an emergency, in which case any editor can feel free to contact me instead. Until further notice, Mark is not available to respond to any requests, especially if they involve use of administrator tools (you can ask me for that too).

On behalf of Mark, → Call me Hahc21 02:21, 29 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JagDeCat ( talkcontribs)

review of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Media Idee[edit]

User:JagDeCat has asked on my talk page for the article to be undeleted. Given that two of the four participants voiced the likelihood that there were refs out there (though maybe in another language), I'm inclined to support the undeletion request. Maybe undelete and move to Draft? Stuartyeates (talk) 03:51, 6 April 2014 (UTC) Hi Stuart. Mark's not around at the moment, so it would be best to ask another admin. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 09:00, 6 April 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JagDeCat ( talkcontribs)

  • Comment I've removed a large amount of text copy-pasted from various conversations and talk page material by an editor that involve the process before bringing this page to deletion review. IronGargoyle ( talk) 19:51, 21 April 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse. The AFD was unanimous and reasonably argued. An AFC submission would have been a much better choice than bringing this here. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz ( talk) 17:28, 22 April 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Comment IronGargoyle ( talk) and Hullaballoo Wolfowitz, please do note that the Admin who deleted the page is no longer available. Secondly, please note that the deletion occurred in 2011. Since than the company is now 'Notable'. The issue was not being resolved. Thats' why the complete context was posted here to make decision easier. Please do the right thing and undelete the page, also as requested the same as Stuartyeates, one of the people who approved the original deletion. Also an AFC Submission is not required. WE are well equipped to create an entire encyclopedic article on Media Idee and rest assured it will not sound like a promotion — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.186.101.169 ( talk) 21:21, 22 April 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse deletion and agree with suggestion of creating an article through AfC. IP user, "WE are well equipped to create an entire encyclopedic article on Media Idee" sounds as though you are connected with Media Idee, in which case read the Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide: you should not create your own article directly, but use AfC so that it can be reviewed by an uninvolved user before it is posted. We find that people's ideas about what "will not sound like promotion" about their companies are very different from ours. Most of the references you give above seem to be written by the company or based on press releases: what will be looked for is "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." JohnCD ( talk) 16:36, 23 April 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse That was an unavoidable close, thoughtful discussion and a unanimous set of opinions by participants whose tenure evidences an understanding of our policies. The editor requesting undeletion is clearly new here, and unfamiliar with our policies, and this is not the spot from them to learn. AfC, as challenging an option as it can be, is at least a bit better. JohnCD's comments are spot on. -- j⚛e decker talk 01:42, 24 April 2014 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

21 April 2014

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Media Idee ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

<Not Notable Company>

Media Idee • ( talk | logs | links | watch | afd ) • [revisions] Enter your reasoning here and then click the "Save page" button below -115.186.121.30 (talk) 20:37, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Hello. The Page 'Media Idee' was deleted for the company not being notable at the time.

Since then, the following are some of the projects that have gotten it into the limelight:

The biggest one is the Organization of the first ever Dolphin Show in Pakistan. Please see http://www.dolphinshow.org/partner.php and www.facebook.com/dolphinshowkarachi for proof that MI was the main organizer. Just Google 'Dolphin Show Karachi' and you will get about a 100 links back from major media companies in the country discussing that including some that actually Cite Media Idee. This is one FB page which lists the event's as MI: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Media-Idee/346860588664883.

Some pages which list MI are: http://tcsconnect.com/dolphin-show-ticket-12897.html

http://www.awamiweb.com/dolphin-show-in-karachi-from-10th-of-january-67671.html

http://www.mediakorner.com/pakistans-first-ever-dolphin-show/

Media Idee is also part of PAS - The ruling body for all advertisers and agencies.

PAS - Pakistan Advertisers' Society: http://www.pas.org.pk/media-idee-celebrates-8th-birthday/

Other Links Include: http://trango.co/interview-with-umair-mohsin-of-media-idee/

http://www.pas.org.pk/mira-media-idee-research-analytics/

http://www.crunchbase.com/company/mi-digital

http://www.midigital.co/nestle-fruita-vitals-production-handled-mi-productions/

Network Companies include: www.miproductions.tv

www.mievents.asia

www.creativecom.co

Off-topic copy-pasting

X mark.svg Not done - this Requests for Undeletion process is only for articles that were deleted uncontroversially, and does not apply to articles deleted after a deletion discussion. Since the article you are here about was deleted after a discussion took place at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Media Idee, it cannot be undeleted through this process. However, if you believe that the outcome of the discussion did not reflect the consensus of the participants, or that significant new information has come to light since the article was deleted, you may contact the administrator who closed the discussion, user Mark Arsten (talk · contribs). After you do so, if your concerns are not addressed and you still seek undeletion, a request may be made at deletion review. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 05:47, 21 April 2014 (UTC)


Please note that User MARK ARSTEN is no longer available to talk to. The company in question is now quite notable as can be verified through links pasted above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.209.82.46 ( talk) 11:19, 21 April 2014 (UTC) reply

User talk:Mark Arsten From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia This user has administrator privileges on the English Wikipedia. Important notice Mark Arsten is taking an indefinite break from Wikipedia for personal reasons. As such, he would wish not to be contacted at this talk page unless it's an emergency, in which case any editor can feel free to contact me instead. Until further notice, Mark is not available to respond to any requests, especially if they involve use of administrator tools (you can ask me for that too).

On behalf of Mark, → Call me Hahc21 02:21, 29 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JagDeCat ( talkcontribs)

review of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Media Idee[edit]

User:JagDeCat has asked on my talk page for the article to be undeleted. Given that two of the four participants voiced the likelihood that there were refs out there (though maybe in another language), I'm inclined to support the undeletion request. Maybe undelete and move to Draft? Stuartyeates (talk) 03:51, 6 April 2014 (UTC) Hi Stuart. Mark's not around at the moment, so it would be best to ask another admin. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 09:00, 6 April 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JagDeCat ( talkcontribs)

  • Comment I've removed a large amount of text copy-pasted from various conversations and talk page material by an editor that involve the process before bringing this page to deletion review. IronGargoyle ( talk) 19:51, 21 April 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse. The AFD was unanimous and reasonably argued. An AFC submission would have been a much better choice than bringing this here. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz ( talk) 17:28, 22 April 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Comment IronGargoyle ( talk) and Hullaballoo Wolfowitz, please do note that the Admin who deleted the page is no longer available. Secondly, please note that the deletion occurred in 2011. Since than the company is now 'Notable'. The issue was not being resolved. Thats' why the complete context was posted here to make decision easier. Please do the right thing and undelete the page, also as requested the same as Stuartyeates, one of the people who approved the original deletion. Also an AFC Submission is not required. WE are well equipped to create an entire encyclopedic article on Media Idee and rest assured it will not sound like a promotion — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.186.101.169 ( talk) 21:21, 22 April 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse deletion and agree with suggestion of creating an article through AfC. IP user, "WE are well equipped to create an entire encyclopedic article on Media Idee" sounds as though you are connected with Media Idee, in which case read the Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide: you should not create your own article directly, but use AfC so that it can be reviewed by an uninvolved user before it is posted. We find that people's ideas about what "will not sound like promotion" about their companies are very different from ours. Most of the references you give above seem to be written by the company or based on press releases: what will be looked for is "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." JohnCD ( talk) 16:36, 23 April 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse That was an unavoidable close, thoughtful discussion and a unanimous set of opinions by participants whose tenure evidences an understanding of our policies. The editor requesting undeletion is clearly new here, and unfamiliar with our policies, and this is not the spot from them to learn. AfC, as challenging an option as it can be, is at least a bit better. JohnCD's comments are spot on. -- j⚛e decker talk 01:42, 24 April 2014 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.

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