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The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
David Bascombe ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

The subject of the article went to Ron Ritzman to ask why it was deleted; he'sn't so active anymore, so I've responded to it. I think he is notable for producing at least two notable hits ( Take a Chance on Me#Erasure version and Never Let Me Down Again) and for being co-nominated for Grammy Award for Producer of the Year, Non-Classical, not least the fact that there is nothing on WP:MUSICBIO about producers. Laun chba ller 14:42, 14 September 2013 (UTC) reply

  • I'm finding very little in the way of reliable third party sources so we could actually write a decent encyclopedia article, rather than just a list of credits, do we have any of those? Remember the basic criteria is always non-trivial coverage in reliable sources. -- 86.5.93.42 ( talk) 21:00, 14 September 2013 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse the AfD close - I'm seeing some source material. Early source coverage shows that he produced The Seeds of Love with Tears for Fears in 1989. There's coverage of a David Bascombe in the Port Lincoln Times and his work with AXEL Stenross Maritime Museum. Not sure if it is the same person. Even with that information, it probably is not enough to put together a written biography article from Wikipedia reliable sources. AfD also concluded that there was not enough source material. David Bascombe would be aware of his own press coverage. With a variety of people already looking but not finding source material for the article, I think the only way an article could be created is if David Bascombe posted, at Wikipedia:Requested articles, links to Wikipedia reliable sources that discuss his life to allow someone else to write the article. Non-Wikipedia reliable source information on David Bascombe is here. -- Jreferee ( talk) 11:50, 20 September 2013 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Poonam Pandey ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

Since the deletion of the article in April 2013, the subject model has appeared as the lead actress of the Bollywood film Nasha, which released in July 2013. The reason for deletion noted by the closing admin User:King of Hearts at the AfD was WP:BLP1E. I request that the article should be undeleted based on this new information we have. Also i would like to point out that the article was actually kept post the 1st AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Poonam Pandey where the admin User:Scottywong had kept the article for the subject being notable enough. §§ Dharmadhyaksha§§ { T/ C} 10:30, 14 September 2013 (UTC) reply

Why are you taking the AfD from 5 months ago to DRV when the most recent deletion rationale (By DragonflySixtyseven) was based on the banned status of the creator? Jclemens ( talk) 17:18, 14 September 2013 (UTC) reply
I did not notice that rationale. If i had i would anyways have come here because i don't want that version to be restored. I want the version which was deleted after AfD to be restored. And the latest deletion is just a fault in our system where under CSD:G5 we tend to delete articles just because they are created by blocked/banned editors without gauging the article itself.
Now, lets say i shouldn't be here. Then what other way do we have? §§ Dharmadhyaksha§§ { T/ C} 18:06, 14 September 2013 (UTC) reply
I don't see anything wrong with taking it to DRV; often it is used to as a means for the community to approve recreation of an article which would otherwise get G4'd. -- King of 03:16, 15 September 2013 (UTC) reply
I am new at DRV so help me. Although it doesn’t mean same, do you mean "restore the old version" when u say "permit re-creation"? §§ Dharmadhyaksha§§ { T/ C} 09:14, 15 September 2013 (UTC) reply
  • It means I'm in favour of an article being created in that space. I have no objection to restoring the old version as part of that process, but the old version will obviously have to be updated with the new information.— S Marshall T/ C 18:59, 15 September 2013 (UTC) reply
Oh yes! Updation would be required. But that's just like any other article on wiki which isn't updated. I will update it when it's available. §§ Dharmadhyaksha§§ { T/ C} 05:47, 16 September 2013 (UTC) reply
  • Recreate the article. The first AFD got it right, Northamerica1000 finding ample coverage of her then, and not just for the strip tease bet. Click on a Google news search and you see her getting ample coverage in reliable sources. Less people noticed and participated in the second AFD. Anyone who participates in an AFD and doesn't take a moment to click the link at the top for Google news search, but still seeks to delete something, should be ignored. Dream Focus 19:32, 15 September 2013 (UTC) reply
  • Permit recreation - I imagine you'll get the most recent deleted version for the sake attribution but you can boldly edit it back to a preferred version. Seems like a good faith request on the basis of some new information and I appreciate the nominator bringing it here to allow community review. Stalwart 111 07:19, 17 September 2013 (UTC) reply
  • Permit recreation - Of course, very much notable now.-- Dwaipayan ( talk) 17:45, 17 September 2013 (UTC) reply
  • Permit recreation - meaning you can write a new article and post it at Poonam Pandey. An old version of the biography essentially was reduced down to "She was born, did a few thing, and then did this." The history of the deleted article shows IPs and what appears to be new editors. Dharmadhyaksha your interest in the topic and hopefully a willingness to watch over the page would be welcome. I think it was appropriate that you posted your request at DRV. -- Jreferee ( talk) 11:21, 20 September 2013 (UTC) reply
  • Permit recreation: in addition, I oppose the previous deletion too. We deleted the article because in Wikipedia we don't know how to categorize these people. We still check a person's "occupation" to assess "notability". The category we need and what is applicable here — Pandey was a public figure. Claim to "run nude" or whatever she did, made her notable — that's it. Tito Dutta 19:59, 22 September 2013 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
David Bascombe ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

The subject of the article went to Ron Ritzman to ask why it was deleted; he'sn't so active anymore, so I've responded to it. I think he is notable for producing at least two notable hits ( Take a Chance on Me#Erasure version and Never Let Me Down Again) and for being co-nominated for Grammy Award for Producer of the Year, Non-Classical, not least the fact that there is nothing on WP:MUSICBIO about producers. Laun chba ller 14:42, 14 September 2013 (UTC) reply

  • I'm finding very little in the way of reliable third party sources so we could actually write a decent encyclopedia article, rather than just a list of credits, do we have any of those? Remember the basic criteria is always non-trivial coverage in reliable sources. -- 86.5.93.42 ( talk) 21:00, 14 September 2013 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse the AfD close - I'm seeing some source material. Early source coverage shows that he produced The Seeds of Love with Tears for Fears in 1989. There's coverage of a David Bascombe in the Port Lincoln Times and his work with AXEL Stenross Maritime Museum. Not sure if it is the same person. Even with that information, it probably is not enough to put together a written biography article from Wikipedia reliable sources. AfD also concluded that there was not enough source material. David Bascombe would be aware of his own press coverage. With a variety of people already looking but not finding source material for the article, I think the only way an article could be created is if David Bascombe posted, at Wikipedia:Requested articles, links to Wikipedia reliable sources that discuss his life to allow someone else to write the article. Non-Wikipedia reliable source information on David Bascombe is here. -- Jreferee ( talk) 11:50, 20 September 2013 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Poonam Pandey ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

Since the deletion of the article in April 2013, the subject model has appeared as the lead actress of the Bollywood film Nasha, which released in July 2013. The reason for deletion noted by the closing admin User:King of Hearts at the AfD was WP:BLP1E. I request that the article should be undeleted based on this new information we have. Also i would like to point out that the article was actually kept post the 1st AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Poonam Pandey where the admin User:Scottywong had kept the article for the subject being notable enough. §§ Dharmadhyaksha§§ { T/ C} 10:30, 14 September 2013 (UTC) reply

Why are you taking the AfD from 5 months ago to DRV when the most recent deletion rationale (By DragonflySixtyseven) was based on the banned status of the creator? Jclemens ( talk) 17:18, 14 September 2013 (UTC) reply
I did not notice that rationale. If i had i would anyways have come here because i don't want that version to be restored. I want the version which was deleted after AfD to be restored. And the latest deletion is just a fault in our system where under CSD:G5 we tend to delete articles just because they are created by blocked/banned editors without gauging the article itself.
Now, lets say i shouldn't be here. Then what other way do we have? §§ Dharmadhyaksha§§ { T/ C} 18:06, 14 September 2013 (UTC) reply
I don't see anything wrong with taking it to DRV; often it is used to as a means for the community to approve recreation of an article which would otherwise get G4'd. -- King of 03:16, 15 September 2013 (UTC) reply
I am new at DRV so help me. Although it doesn’t mean same, do you mean "restore the old version" when u say "permit re-creation"? §§ Dharmadhyaksha§§ { T/ C} 09:14, 15 September 2013 (UTC) reply
  • It means I'm in favour of an article being created in that space. I have no objection to restoring the old version as part of that process, but the old version will obviously have to be updated with the new information.— S Marshall T/ C 18:59, 15 September 2013 (UTC) reply
Oh yes! Updation would be required. But that's just like any other article on wiki which isn't updated. I will update it when it's available. §§ Dharmadhyaksha§§ { T/ C} 05:47, 16 September 2013 (UTC) reply
  • Recreate the article. The first AFD got it right, Northamerica1000 finding ample coverage of her then, and not just for the strip tease bet. Click on a Google news search and you see her getting ample coverage in reliable sources. Less people noticed and participated in the second AFD. Anyone who participates in an AFD and doesn't take a moment to click the link at the top for Google news search, but still seeks to delete something, should be ignored. Dream Focus 19:32, 15 September 2013 (UTC) reply
  • Permit recreation - I imagine you'll get the most recent deleted version for the sake attribution but you can boldly edit it back to a preferred version. Seems like a good faith request on the basis of some new information and I appreciate the nominator bringing it here to allow community review. Stalwart 111 07:19, 17 September 2013 (UTC) reply
  • Permit recreation - Of course, very much notable now.-- Dwaipayan ( talk) 17:45, 17 September 2013 (UTC) reply
  • Permit recreation - meaning you can write a new article and post it at Poonam Pandey. An old version of the biography essentially was reduced down to "She was born, did a few thing, and then did this." The history of the deleted article shows IPs and what appears to be new editors. Dharmadhyaksha your interest in the topic and hopefully a willingness to watch over the page would be welcome. I think it was appropriate that you posted your request at DRV. -- Jreferee ( talk) 11:21, 20 September 2013 (UTC) reply
  • Permit recreation: in addition, I oppose the previous deletion too. We deleted the article because in Wikipedia we don't know how to categorize these people. We still check a person's "occupation" to assess "notability". The category we need and what is applicable here — Pandey was a public figure. Claim to "run nude" or whatever she did, made her notable — that's it. Tito Dutta 19:59, 22 September 2013 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.

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