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22 March 2013

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Christmas in Spiceworld ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

This article was previously deleted in a July 2008 AFD and turned into a protected redirect. In November 2009, a new article was created at a different title to subvert the protection. That article has existed since then. While patrolling CAT:CSD today, I saw a request to delete the former redirect and move this article back to its original title. When I did so, I saw the deleted revisions and saw that the new article obviously started out as an unattributed copy/paste of the old one ( see comparison) and so I restored the old revisions for the sake of having the full history.

Obviously, though, the fact remains that the last time there was a discussion about this article, the decision was to delete it and the article in its current state is even less of a quality encyclopedia article than the one that was deleted in 2008. So I'm not comfortable with just leaving it there without some sort of discussion overturning the previous AFD. I'm not especially looking for an "endorse" or "overturn" since there isn't really anything to "endorse" or "overturn" - maybe a relist, re-delete, or leave as is. Thanks. -- B ( talk) 03:35, 22 March 2013 (UTC) reply

DRV is not the right place for this. If it's been changed, it's not G4-able, so if you want it deleted, send it back to AfD. Jclemens ( talk) 04:19, 22 March 2013 (UTC) reply
Well, it is deletable under G4. So pretend I had deleted it under G4 and that decision is being reviewed. -- B ( talk) 04:39, 22 March 2013 (UTC) reply
(As the one who requested the above), I hadn't noticed the article's history. I really don't have time now (as I have to write an essay for school that I have been putting off all week), but I'll try to expand it more later. As a reunion tour of sorts for the group, who lost a member in the middle of their last tour, I'd say that it would hold enough notability for its own article.  —  Statυs ( talk, contribs) 04:45, 22 March 2013 (UTC) reply
  • Send to AfD to establish a fresh consensus; the original AfD is nearly five years old, had only four participants, and was closed as redirect (implemented as delete and redirect). I would have supported a timely G4 on the January 2009 version, as the main differences were a paragraph on stage design and formatting the tour schedule into a table – nothing to do with notability, the AfD's main concern. The January 2009 version fails to mention Geri Halliwell's absence. Thanks for recognizing and fixing the cut-and-paste move and restoring the old revisions (the General information sections look similar in my diff). Flatscan ( talk) 05:29, 22 March 2013 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

22 March 2013

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Christmas in Spiceworld ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

This article was previously deleted in a July 2008 AFD and turned into a protected redirect. In November 2009, a new article was created at a different title to subvert the protection. That article has existed since then. While patrolling CAT:CSD today, I saw a request to delete the former redirect and move this article back to its original title. When I did so, I saw the deleted revisions and saw that the new article obviously started out as an unattributed copy/paste of the old one ( see comparison) and so I restored the old revisions for the sake of having the full history.

Obviously, though, the fact remains that the last time there was a discussion about this article, the decision was to delete it and the article in its current state is even less of a quality encyclopedia article than the one that was deleted in 2008. So I'm not comfortable with just leaving it there without some sort of discussion overturning the previous AFD. I'm not especially looking for an "endorse" or "overturn" since there isn't really anything to "endorse" or "overturn" - maybe a relist, re-delete, or leave as is. Thanks. -- B ( talk) 03:35, 22 March 2013 (UTC) reply

DRV is not the right place for this. If it's been changed, it's not G4-able, so if you want it deleted, send it back to AfD. Jclemens ( talk) 04:19, 22 March 2013 (UTC) reply
Well, it is deletable under G4. So pretend I had deleted it under G4 and that decision is being reviewed. -- B ( talk) 04:39, 22 March 2013 (UTC) reply
(As the one who requested the above), I hadn't noticed the article's history. I really don't have time now (as I have to write an essay for school that I have been putting off all week), but I'll try to expand it more later. As a reunion tour of sorts for the group, who lost a member in the middle of their last tour, I'd say that it would hold enough notability for its own article.  —  Statυs ( talk, contribs) 04:45, 22 March 2013 (UTC) reply
  • Send to AfD to establish a fresh consensus; the original AfD is nearly five years old, had only four participants, and was closed as redirect (implemented as delete and redirect). I would have supported a timely G4 on the January 2009 version, as the main differences were a paragraph on stage design and formatting the tour schedule into a table – nothing to do with notability, the AfD's main concern. The January 2009 version fails to mention Geri Halliwell's absence. Thanks for recognizing and fixing the cut-and-paste move and restoring the old revisions (the General information sections look similar in my diff). Flatscan ( talk) 05:29, 22 March 2013 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.

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