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8 July 2013

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Kate Garvey ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

This discussion was closed as "no consensus" on 4 July 2013. The discussion began on 27 June 2013. The matter was discussed for seven (7) days before closure. The discussion should be re-opened so consensus might be reached on the issue of whether the article subject is notable under GNG. I believe that there was consensus that the article subject was mentioned in several reliable sources, but consensus needs to be attempted as to whether these mentions were significant per GNG. Bacon Avacado Burrito ( talk) 23:00, 8 July 2013 (UTC) reply

  • Endorse (Reasoning here.) I actually thought that the admin did a good job of balancing the arguments in this case. Best to let it rest and revisit six to twelve months down the road - if necessary. -- regentspark ( comment) 23:11, 8 July 2013 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse Closure was correct given the arguments. Consensus cannot always be reached, so it is useless reopening the AfD again. Also User:Bacon Avacado Burrito is a sock of User:Ann Bardrach and at least one other long term wikipedian who I will not name. Martin451 ( talk) 23:20, 8 July 2013 (UTC) reply
Absolutely not, please apologize. A.G.F. Bacon Avacado Burrito ( talk) 23:29, 8 July 2013 (UTC) reply
Given that we have just had a bad faith AfD for this article by a vandal, and another new editor takes the same article to deletion review, there is something seriously amiss here. I am fairly sure I know what your main account is, but not enough to take to a sock puppet investigation. Martin451 ( talk) 00:00, 9 July 2013 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse The no consensus close was correct to both the spirit and the letter of the law/rules. Another week of discussion won't change anything. (note: I !voted "delete" in the original discussion....) First Light ( talk) 00:13, 9 July 2013 (UTC) reply
  • Weak Endorse, leaning "Merge and Redirect". My reading of the discussion definitely leans to "Merge and Redirect" to Jimmy_Wales#Personal_life. The closer was wrong to assert that only "a few proposed merging and redirection to Jimbo Wales". The Merge and Redirect option was explicit in many complex !votes, and consistent with many Keep and Delete rationales. "Endorse" because "no consensus" was within the closers discretion given some clearly opposing viewpoints within the discussion, and because AfD is not a ruling forum on merging. There was definitely not a consensus to "delete", and so the conversation can continue on one or both talk pages. -- SmokeyJoe ( talk) 02:47, 9 July 2013 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

8 July 2013

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Kate Garvey ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

This discussion was closed as "no consensus" on 4 July 2013. The discussion began on 27 June 2013. The matter was discussed for seven (7) days before closure. The discussion should be re-opened so consensus might be reached on the issue of whether the article subject is notable under GNG. I believe that there was consensus that the article subject was mentioned in several reliable sources, but consensus needs to be attempted as to whether these mentions were significant per GNG. Bacon Avacado Burrito ( talk) 23:00, 8 July 2013 (UTC) reply

  • Endorse (Reasoning here.) I actually thought that the admin did a good job of balancing the arguments in this case. Best to let it rest and revisit six to twelve months down the road - if necessary. -- regentspark ( comment) 23:11, 8 July 2013 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse Closure was correct given the arguments. Consensus cannot always be reached, so it is useless reopening the AfD again. Also User:Bacon Avacado Burrito is a sock of User:Ann Bardrach and at least one other long term wikipedian who I will not name. Martin451 ( talk) 23:20, 8 July 2013 (UTC) reply
Absolutely not, please apologize. A.G.F. Bacon Avacado Burrito ( talk) 23:29, 8 July 2013 (UTC) reply
Given that we have just had a bad faith AfD for this article by a vandal, and another new editor takes the same article to deletion review, there is something seriously amiss here. I am fairly sure I know what your main account is, but not enough to take to a sock puppet investigation. Martin451 ( talk) 00:00, 9 July 2013 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse The no consensus close was correct to both the spirit and the letter of the law/rules. Another week of discussion won't change anything. (note: I !voted "delete" in the original discussion....) First Light ( talk) 00:13, 9 July 2013 (UTC) reply
  • Weak Endorse, leaning "Merge and Redirect". My reading of the discussion definitely leans to "Merge and Redirect" to Jimmy_Wales#Personal_life. The closer was wrong to assert that only "a few proposed merging and redirection to Jimbo Wales". The Merge and Redirect option was explicit in many complex !votes, and consistent with many Keep and Delete rationales. "Endorse" because "no consensus" was within the closers discretion given some clearly opposing viewpoints within the discussion, and because AfD is not a ruling forum on merging. There was definitely not a consensus to "delete", and so the conversation can continue on one or both talk pages. -- SmokeyJoe ( talk) 02:47, 9 July 2013 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.

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