As requested, I have located some more reliable sources to recreate the article:
The BLP does meet WP:ENT - He had significant roles in television shows during 12 years on air in germany and austria and by appearing in a total of 650
TV shows.
(Genres: Mainstream, News-oriented, Internet-related and Interpersonally) 1. 580 Shows "sale of the century" on Tele5 germany - reruns on channel tm3 - Proof for this engagement "Hopp oder Top" (sale of the century):
Source: This source is a factual database of all tv-series in germany. Independently organized, and containing facts from "The lexicon of television" written by Stefan Niggemeier, who is still known as one of the most important Media Experts in germany. Summary: It not only explains his work as ENT in 1991/92, but also the next steps of the BLP ||
Source: Online directory, initiated by the tv channel Tele5// Summary: it explains the importance of the show, since the successor of the channel Tele5 (tm3) reran the show because of it's success. ||
Source: This source is a newsmagazine in Tyrol // Summary: The editor explains her commitment as contestant and work with the BLP || (The original article has been requested at the source:
http://www.tirolerin.at
Source: This source is one the most relevant media industry magazines (print & Online) in germany // Summary: The search leads to 12 articles, talking about his various tv engagements mentioned in the WP article ||
5) http://youtu.be/l96qYVu6DvA
Source: Video on YouTube - uploaded by individual // Summary: This Video is showing the ComputerGame C64 with BLPs name and graphic animation ||- only for this discussion, to show his status at that time - will not be used in article -
Source (secondary): Database for all german papers, they publish in print and online: Search for BLP found factual content in "Die Welt", "Berliner Zeitung", "Welt", "Stern" "TV-Media(guide)".
More facts can be delivered as I would have to dig deeper into thearchives of german television.
But hopefully, this will be sufficient. If so, I would go over the article as offered.
temporarily restored for discussion at Deletion Review DGG (
talk ) 22:41, 28 April 2013 (UTC)reply
We're not being asked to comment on the AfD, so I won't give a detailed assessment of it, but I can't help wondering whether the participants read German fluently enough to assess the sources.
Herr Aigner is not the most significant media personality in the history of the world, and given how many German national-level politicians, senior judges, Leibniz-prizewinners and so on are still redlinked, I would not personally have chosen to spend my volunteering time writing about him. But on the basis of the sources provided I also think that he probably does pass the letter of WP:ENT. There is no neutral version in the history to restore, so at the end of this DRV the article should be re-deleted, but I'm minded to permit creation of a fresh, neutrally-worded article, which should be based entirely on the sources available. This will be much shorter.—
S MarshallT/
C 11:53, 29 April 2013 (UTC)reply
Allow recreation - S Marshall's logic seems sound; if someone wants to spend some time recreating it having found some new/previously un-found
WP:RS then why not?
Stalwart111 23:15, 29 April 2013 (UTC)reply
The above is an archive of the
deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.
As requested, I have located some more reliable sources to recreate the article:
The BLP does meet WP:ENT - He had significant roles in television shows during 12 years on air in germany and austria and by appearing in a total of 650
TV shows.
(Genres: Mainstream, News-oriented, Internet-related and Interpersonally) 1. 580 Shows "sale of the century" on Tele5 germany - reruns on channel tm3 - Proof for this engagement "Hopp oder Top" (sale of the century):
Source: This source is a factual database of all tv-series in germany. Independently organized, and containing facts from "The lexicon of television" written by Stefan Niggemeier, who is still known as one of the most important Media Experts in germany. Summary: It not only explains his work as ENT in 1991/92, but also the next steps of the BLP ||
Source: Online directory, initiated by the tv channel Tele5// Summary: it explains the importance of the show, since the successor of the channel Tele5 (tm3) reran the show because of it's success. ||
Source: This source is a newsmagazine in Tyrol // Summary: The editor explains her commitment as contestant and work with the BLP || (The original article has been requested at the source:
http://www.tirolerin.at
Source: This source is one the most relevant media industry magazines (print & Online) in germany // Summary: The search leads to 12 articles, talking about his various tv engagements mentioned in the WP article ||
5) http://youtu.be/l96qYVu6DvA
Source: Video on YouTube - uploaded by individual // Summary: This Video is showing the ComputerGame C64 with BLPs name and graphic animation ||- only for this discussion, to show his status at that time - will not be used in article -
Source (secondary): Database for all german papers, they publish in print and online: Search for BLP found factual content in "Die Welt", "Berliner Zeitung", "Welt", "Stern" "TV-Media(guide)".
More facts can be delivered as I would have to dig deeper into thearchives of german television.
But hopefully, this will be sufficient. If so, I would go over the article as offered.
temporarily restored for discussion at Deletion Review DGG (
talk ) 22:41, 28 April 2013 (UTC)reply
We're not being asked to comment on the AfD, so I won't give a detailed assessment of it, but I can't help wondering whether the participants read German fluently enough to assess the sources.
Herr Aigner is not the most significant media personality in the history of the world, and given how many German national-level politicians, senior judges, Leibniz-prizewinners and so on are still redlinked, I would not personally have chosen to spend my volunteering time writing about him. But on the basis of the sources provided I also think that he probably does pass the letter of WP:ENT. There is no neutral version in the history to restore, so at the end of this DRV the article should be re-deleted, but I'm minded to permit creation of a fresh, neutrally-worded article, which should be based entirely on the sources available. This will be much shorter.—
S MarshallT/
C 11:53, 29 April 2013 (UTC)reply
Allow recreation - S Marshall's logic seems sound; if someone wants to spend some time recreating it having found some new/previously un-found
WP:RS then why not?
Stalwart111 23:15, 29 April 2013 (UTC)reply
The above is an archive of the
deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.