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20 May 2012

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Warrandyte Cricket Club ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

5 years on, I have found many articles from newpapers from as early as 1881, documenting the importance & history of cricket in the eastern suburbs goldfields region of Victoria, and am hoping you can reconsider re-adding this page. I particularly want to highight how cricket was formed & developed in Victoria some 158 years ago, and have many stories to share. Mystery92no ( talk) 01:24, 20 May 2012 (UTC) reply

  • Restore the AfD was 5 years ago, a weak delete at that. I see no reason to not restore this to allow addition of new sources, which no one appeared to advocate for in the linked deletion discussion. If it remains unimproved, I anticipate no prejudice against re-deleting it through a fresh AfD discussion. Jclemens ( talk) 01:34, 20 May 2012 (UTC) reply
  • Restore. Though not really phrased in those terms, the discussion seems to have tended towards delete based on the lack of sources in the article. If they can be supplied, there is every reason to recreate and expand the article. Newspaper accounts are excellent for that purpose as long as they are not just listing of match schedules or results but rather actual discussions of the team and it's players. Eluchil404 ( talk) 07:23, 20 May 2012 (UTC) reply
  • Allow re-creation. For future reference, you didn't need to come here, but if you feel tentative and want to come here, I recomment that you prepare a userspace draft in advance. What new articles have you found? I recommend undeleting the history for referecne. Userfy to User:Mystery92no/Warrandyte Cricket Club. -- SmokeyJoe ( talk) 06:18, 21 May 2012 (UTC) reply
  • Allow re-creation - "The Warrandyte Cricket Club is one of the oldest cricket clubs in Victoria, dating back to 1855." [1] While the Internet may not provide easy access to reliable source information on the topic, [2] [3] seems likely some have written about his 150+ year old club in the last 150 years. -- Uzma Gamal ( talk) 11:40, 21 May 2012 (UTC) reply
  • temporarily restored for discussion at Deletion Review DGG ( talk ) 03:22, 22 May 2012 (UTC) reply
  • I agree with SmokeyJoe that a DRV isn't really needed here and recreation should be allowed if the proper sources are there for GNG. The article was deleted in AFD over five years ago and the AFD didn't have really much of a policy based argument anywhere. The only argument in that debate was I think the third oldest club might not be notable enough but I really don't know, delete anyways. It may have been a acceptable argument back then, but it's not now. This should be speedy closed with a talk page comment to the nominator that it's ok for an article, but to take GNG to account while creating it. Secret account 05:33, 22 May 2012 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

20 May 2012

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Warrandyte Cricket Club ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

5 years on, I have found many articles from newpapers from as early as 1881, documenting the importance & history of cricket in the eastern suburbs goldfields region of Victoria, and am hoping you can reconsider re-adding this page. I particularly want to highight how cricket was formed & developed in Victoria some 158 years ago, and have many stories to share. Mystery92no ( talk) 01:24, 20 May 2012 (UTC) reply

  • Restore the AfD was 5 years ago, a weak delete at that. I see no reason to not restore this to allow addition of new sources, which no one appeared to advocate for in the linked deletion discussion. If it remains unimproved, I anticipate no prejudice against re-deleting it through a fresh AfD discussion. Jclemens ( talk) 01:34, 20 May 2012 (UTC) reply
  • Restore. Though not really phrased in those terms, the discussion seems to have tended towards delete based on the lack of sources in the article. If they can be supplied, there is every reason to recreate and expand the article. Newspaper accounts are excellent for that purpose as long as they are not just listing of match schedules or results but rather actual discussions of the team and it's players. Eluchil404 ( talk) 07:23, 20 May 2012 (UTC) reply
  • Allow re-creation. For future reference, you didn't need to come here, but if you feel tentative and want to come here, I recomment that you prepare a userspace draft in advance. What new articles have you found? I recommend undeleting the history for referecne. Userfy to User:Mystery92no/Warrandyte Cricket Club. -- SmokeyJoe ( talk) 06:18, 21 May 2012 (UTC) reply
  • Allow re-creation - "The Warrandyte Cricket Club is one of the oldest cricket clubs in Victoria, dating back to 1855." [1] While the Internet may not provide easy access to reliable source information on the topic, [2] [3] seems likely some have written about his 150+ year old club in the last 150 years. -- Uzma Gamal ( talk) 11:40, 21 May 2012 (UTC) reply
  • temporarily restored for discussion at Deletion Review DGG ( talk ) 03:22, 22 May 2012 (UTC) reply
  • I agree with SmokeyJoe that a DRV isn't really needed here and recreation should be allowed if the proper sources are there for GNG. The article was deleted in AFD over five years ago and the AFD didn't have really much of a policy based argument anywhere. The only argument in that debate was I think the third oldest club might not be notable enough but I really don't know, delete anyways. It may have been a acceptable argument back then, but it's not now. This should be speedy closed with a talk page comment to the nominator that it's ok for an article, but to take GNG to account while creating it. Secret account 05:33, 22 May 2012 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.

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