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The nominator has retracted this request Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Luigi Padovese. As this is a currently hot article, could an admin close the rfd? -- Túrelio ( talk) 08:42, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
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Page was deleted because it lacked facts supported by references. Now, the page has both at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Politowski55/Mikie_Da_Poet Politowski55 ( talk) 05:35, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
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<Hasty Deletion, Insufficient Discussion> Folks, on the archive of the discussion for deletion, I see only two persons participating. One Astudent0 suggests that this is a "weak delete", to the effect that he can't find any independent citations. Other than that they think it's a good article. A reason for not finding any independent citations may be this: at the time of Grandmaster Kim's teaching days, he went by the americanized name style of "Ki Whang Kim", rather than the traditional/modern "Kim Ki Whang". A Google search for "Ki Whang Kim" produces at least ten pages of citations from a very wide variety of sources. For example to choose almost at random: Richard Williams professional "iridology" homepage mentions his award of black belt in 1965 from Ki Whang Kim: During this time, Dick was awarded his Black Belt in 1965 by Ki Whang Kim, at that time the highest ranking Black Belt in the country. From Tang Soo Do World website one Gene Garbowsky we see: Although known as an outstanding sparring competitor Master Garbowsky has also won numerous forms grand championships including the late Grandmaster Ki Whang Kim’s famous Eagle Classic in 1995. from USA Dojo we see: During the 1960’s and early 70’s, Anderson was extremely active in karate, sparring hours every day, teaching, and gaining a reputation as a good hard-nosed practitioner. As he was nearly forty when competition really became popular, and as he was in demand as a referee, he turned his attention that direction. Most of his involvement at that time was with the East Coast Korean group, and he had a close association with Ki Whang Kim, Richard Chun, Henry Cho, Kang Rhee, Kim Soo Jin, Jhoon Rhee, Mon Soo Park, and Chong Lee to name a few. The list goes on and on. So many people are anxious to include Grandmaster Ki Whang Kim (Kim Ki Whang) in their pedigree of qualifications. It is clear that he was notable within the community of practitioners of Korean Martial Arts in the USA. Reference to the original article, or to revisions of the original within the first few weeks of existence, will show lots of citations of verifiable external references including to Black Belt Magazine. For example, Black Belt Magazine includes many of Ki Whang Kim's students in their "Hall of Fame". Try to search for "whang" in Black Belt Magazine Hall of Fame webpage. Really, this may be the most hasty and senseless deletion in the history of WikiPedia. -- Thardman22 ( talk) 03:00, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
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The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it. |
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The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the article above. Please do not modify it. |
The nominator has retracted this request Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Luigi Padovese. As this is a currently hot article, could an admin close the rfd? -- Túrelio ( talk) 08:42, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
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The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it. |
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The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the article above. Please do not modify it. |
Page was deleted because it lacked facts supported by references. Now, the page has both at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Politowski55/Mikie_Da_Poet Politowski55 ( talk) 05:35, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
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The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it. |
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The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the article above. Please do not modify it. |
<Hasty Deletion, Insufficient Discussion> Folks, on the archive of the discussion for deletion, I see only two persons participating. One Astudent0 suggests that this is a "weak delete", to the effect that he can't find any independent citations. Other than that they think it's a good article. A reason for not finding any independent citations may be this: at the time of Grandmaster Kim's teaching days, he went by the americanized name style of "Ki Whang Kim", rather than the traditional/modern "Kim Ki Whang". A Google search for "Ki Whang Kim" produces at least ten pages of citations from a very wide variety of sources. For example to choose almost at random: Richard Williams professional "iridology" homepage mentions his award of black belt in 1965 from Ki Whang Kim: During this time, Dick was awarded his Black Belt in 1965 by Ki Whang Kim, at that time the highest ranking Black Belt in the country. From Tang Soo Do World website one Gene Garbowsky we see: Although known as an outstanding sparring competitor Master Garbowsky has also won numerous forms grand championships including the late Grandmaster Ki Whang Kim’s famous Eagle Classic in 1995. from USA Dojo we see: During the 1960’s and early 70’s, Anderson was extremely active in karate, sparring hours every day, teaching, and gaining a reputation as a good hard-nosed practitioner. As he was nearly forty when competition really became popular, and as he was in demand as a referee, he turned his attention that direction. Most of his involvement at that time was with the East Coast Korean group, and he had a close association with Ki Whang Kim, Richard Chun, Henry Cho, Kang Rhee, Kim Soo Jin, Jhoon Rhee, Mon Soo Park, and Chong Lee to name a few. The list goes on and on. So many people are anxious to include Grandmaster Ki Whang Kim (Kim Ki Whang) in their pedigree of qualifications. It is clear that he was notable within the community of practitioners of Korean Martial Arts in the USA. Reference to the original article, or to revisions of the original within the first few weeks of existence, will show lots of citations of verifiable external references including to Black Belt Magazine. For example, Black Belt Magazine includes many of Ki Whang Kim's students in their "Hall of Fame". Try to search for "whang" in Black Belt Magazine Hall of Fame webpage. Really, this may be the most hasty and senseless deletion in the history of WikiPedia. -- Thardman22 ( talk) 03:00, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
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The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it. |