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13 July 2009

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the article above. Please do not modify it.
List of Baltic reptiles ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( restore)

Blatant anti-reptilianism Meconion ( talk) 22:31, 13 July 2009 (UTC) reply

Speedy close - 'nuff said. — The Hand That Feeds You: Bite 22:47, 13 July 2009 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the article above. Please do not modify it.
Triple J Hottest 100, 2009 ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

Copyright violation. It doesn't matter how many people vote keep against policy, policy requires that these pages be deleted. Included are all of the other pages listed on the AfD. Who then was a gentleman? ( talk) 05:49, 13 July 2009 (UTC) reply

  • Endorse original close as keep. User:Stifle's summary of the OTRS ticket received from the organisation the nominator believes holds copyright on the list appears to indicate that they neither believe the list is copyrighted by the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, and would grant permission if it is required. Most respondents on the original AFD believe that the list was not under copyright as it was the results of a public vote much like any political election or voted awards such as the Oscars. Perhaps it would be clearer if we knew the exact wording of Triple J's correspondence on the matter – there does not seem to be any indication that permission was granted for publication on Wikipedia only which I gather is the main objection here, so it would certainly be prudent to ensure that Triple J were aware of Wikipedia's licence terms being that text is permitted to be copied for profit. That said, the widespread publishing of the full list on all major Australian newspapers' websites today would indicate that Triple J and the ABC are not protective of the list as copyrighted information. -- Canley ( talk) 06:19, 13 July 2009 (UTC) reply
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. -- Canley ( talk) 06:42, 13 July 2009 (UTC) reply
  • Sorry folks; I'd been away so wasn't able to update you all on the follow-up received from ABC at Ticket:2009071010018621. It releases the text of the articles in the above-mentioned AFD under CC-BY-SA. This can now be closed. Stifle ( talk) 08:05, 13 July 2009 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse own closure, the nominator failed to make a good argument as to why it was in fact a copyvio. This point of view was deconstructed by multiple users in the discussion, and that point aside, there was no other rationale to delete, and the discussion couldn't have closed as anything worse than no consensus. I would also point interested users towards my comments on this talk page in response to the closure. Now that we are here at DRV, I also have to opine that I found the nominator's pre-emptive declaration that he would take the article to DRV if he didn't get the result he wanted to be in incredibly poor faith and quite inappropriate. Lankiveil ( speak to me) 10:44, 13 July 2009 (UTC). reply
  • Endorse Closure - with the OTRS release any support for the copyright violation assertion appears to have vanished. No remaining reasons for deletion to consider - Peripitus (Talk) 12:20, 13 July 2009 (UTC) reply
  • Speedy close. Stifle's remark obliges us to endorse this, and I see no point in dragging the matter out.— S Marshall Talk/ Cont 12:42, 13 July 2009 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse, OTRS CC-BY-SA release rather precludes a copyvio... I also agree with S Marshall that this DRV can be closed. Usrnme h8er ( talk · contribs) 13:27, 13 July 2009 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

13 July 2009

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the article above. Please do not modify it.
List of Baltic reptiles ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( restore)

Blatant anti-reptilianism Meconion ( talk) 22:31, 13 July 2009 (UTC) reply

Speedy close - 'nuff said. — The Hand That Feeds You: Bite 22:47, 13 July 2009 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the article above. Please do not modify it.
Triple J Hottest 100, 2009 ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

Copyright violation. It doesn't matter how many people vote keep against policy, policy requires that these pages be deleted. Included are all of the other pages listed on the AfD. Who then was a gentleman? ( talk) 05:49, 13 July 2009 (UTC) reply

  • Endorse original close as keep. User:Stifle's summary of the OTRS ticket received from the organisation the nominator believes holds copyright on the list appears to indicate that they neither believe the list is copyrighted by the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, and would grant permission if it is required. Most respondents on the original AFD believe that the list was not under copyright as it was the results of a public vote much like any political election or voted awards such as the Oscars. Perhaps it would be clearer if we knew the exact wording of Triple J's correspondence on the matter – there does not seem to be any indication that permission was granted for publication on Wikipedia only which I gather is the main objection here, so it would certainly be prudent to ensure that Triple J were aware of Wikipedia's licence terms being that text is permitted to be copied for profit. That said, the widespread publishing of the full list on all major Australian newspapers' websites today would indicate that Triple J and the ABC are not protective of the list as copyrighted information. -- Canley ( talk) 06:19, 13 July 2009 (UTC) reply
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. -- Canley ( talk) 06:42, 13 July 2009 (UTC) reply
  • Sorry folks; I'd been away so wasn't able to update you all on the follow-up received from ABC at Ticket:2009071010018621. It releases the text of the articles in the above-mentioned AFD under CC-BY-SA. This can now be closed. Stifle ( talk) 08:05, 13 July 2009 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse own closure, the nominator failed to make a good argument as to why it was in fact a copyvio. This point of view was deconstructed by multiple users in the discussion, and that point aside, there was no other rationale to delete, and the discussion couldn't have closed as anything worse than no consensus. I would also point interested users towards my comments on this talk page in response to the closure. Now that we are here at DRV, I also have to opine that I found the nominator's pre-emptive declaration that he would take the article to DRV if he didn't get the result he wanted to be in incredibly poor faith and quite inappropriate. Lankiveil ( speak to me) 10:44, 13 July 2009 (UTC). reply
  • Endorse Closure - with the OTRS release any support for the copyright violation assertion appears to have vanished. No remaining reasons for deletion to consider - Peripitus (Talk) 12:20, 13 July 2009 (UTC) reply
  • Speedy close. Stifle's remark obliges us to endorse this, and I see no point in dragging the matter out.— S Marshall Talk/ Cont 12:42, 13 July 2009 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse, OTRS CC-BY-SA release rather precludes a copyvio... I also agree with S Marshall that this DRV can be closed. Usrnme h8er ( talk · contribs) 13:27, 13 July 2009 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.

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