Matt Lesser (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) ( restore| cache| AfD)

This was speedy deleted as a G11 (advertising). The editor who originally created it asked me to userfy and help on, which I've done - there's a copy at User:Willorbill1/Matt Lesser and, put simply, I'd like your thoughts on moving it back out into mainspace. I should mention here that I know little of American politics, so can't comment on the notability of this person. Original deleting administrator contacted, and doesn't seem to have any objection to recreation, but I thought I'd get your thoughts on it. Cheers, Alex Muller 16:24, 15 June 2008 (UTC) reply

• Comment It no longer appears to be a speedy deletion candidate but i'm not sure there is sufficient notability for the article to survive an AFD? Davewild ( talk) 18:09, 15 June 2008 (UTC) reply
• Usually we don't consider candidates notable simply for running, and there doesn't appear to be anything there that shows notability outside of this Congressional bid. I'd agree that the advertising concerns are taken care of by the userfied version, but it really doesn't have the needed notability to survive an AfD. I'm going to have to suggest that we leave it in userspace for now, but move it back if he wins the election. Cheers. -- lifebaka ( Talk - Contribs) 19:43, 15 June 2008 (UTC) reply
• Agree with Lifebaka; this wouldn't survive an AFD now. GRBerry 13:49, 16 June 2008 (UTC) reply
• Overturn and send to AfD It probably wouldn't survive an AfD, though the only way to b sure is to send it there. What is certainly true howevber is it is notthe blatant span envisioned by G11--it is a reasonable attempt at an article. Personally, I hope that consensus will change with these, & that major party candidates for national legislatures are in fact notable. Speed deletion policy is meaningless unless we follow it--a reason is speedy not "that it would fail afd", nor is deletion review Afd1. If a speedied article does not meet the speedy criterion, it should never have been speedied, and must be restored. DGG ( talk) 14:01, 16 June 2008 (UTC) reply
• Overturn. I think it would survive an AfD, there are enough articles from the Hartford Courant and other publications to meet WP:BIO's requirement for notability from reliable, second party sources, even if the candidate fails WP:POL guidelines. MrPrada ( talk) 17:59, 16 June 2008 (UTC) reply
• Move to mainspace and list at AFD If some people believe it can survive AFD then I think we should give the article a chance as it is clearly no longer a speedy deletion candidate. Davewild ( talk) 18:05, 16 June 2008 (UTC) reply
• Refer to AfD per the above comments. It would pass speedy criteria but I too am doubtful if it would pass muster at AfD, therefore submitting it for broad discussion there is the proper thing to do. Sher eth 18:08, 16 June 2008 (UTC) reply
• What to I do? Hey, I am the co-creator of this article (if you can't tell its my first) and i thank you all for the constructive criticism. Now I am just wondering how exactly i refer this to AfD or what else to do. Willorbill1 ( talk) 21:25, 16 June 2008 (UTC) reply

Don't do a thing, it's likely this deletion review will mean the article is moved back to mainspace and very likely sent to AfD. Presuming you want to keep the article then it isn't you who should send it to AfD, but rather someone who believes the article should be deleted. RMHED ( talk) 21:41, 16 June 2008 (UTC) reply

• Overturn, restore to mainspace and send to AfD. It might well survive an AfD, but I wouldn't count on it. RMHED ( talk) 21:34, 16 June 2008 (UTC) reply
• Wait, What? I'm not sure what you mean. Am I supposed to move this back to mainspace, and wait for someone else to bring it to AfD?? Willorbill1 ( talk) 21:52, 16 June 2008 (UTC) reply

No, if this Deletion review decides that a move to mainspace is appropriate then the closer of this discussion should do this. Any editor who believes the article should be deleted is then free to list it at AfD. RMHED ( talk) 22:25, 16 June 2008 (UTC) reply

• As the deleting admin I have watched this DRV and following this consensus have moved the article back to mainspace and sent to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Matt Lesser. Gwen Gale ( talk) 04:17, 17 June 2008 (UTC) reply

Aboriginal Kinship (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) ( restore| cache| AfD)

I accidently deleted the entry re Aboriginal Kinship whilst editing it by including info about my language group...sorry...new at it pressed wrong bloody button MarvynMc ( talk) 02:26, 15 June 2008 (UTC) reply

I am unclear what you are asking for here, but it sounds like you made a mistake and either deleted some information and saved the page, or hit the wrong button and lost the edits you were going to make? If you made an edit that you did not mean to, you can always undo it. Otherwise it is not clear what you are requesting here. Sher eth 08:53, 15 June 2008 (UTC) reply

I'm sorry, but there's nothing we can do to help you here. The page wan't deleted, and if you didn't save your edits they aren't saved anywhere except possibly in your browser history (if your browser saves web form content in its history). I'm afraid you're going to have to rewrite the information you lost. Close this as there's nothing we can do. -- lifebaka ( Talk - Contribs) 15:40, 15 June 2008 (UTC) reply

Kenny Larkin (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) ( restore| cache| AfD)

Biographical article that does not assert significance. I have no possiblity to look inside this Article but this Musician reaches the limits of notability very well, becaus this is an important producer with world wide fanbase. Has appeareance on more than one (german) electronic music magazine ( de:Raveline, de:de-bug, de:Frontpage) and has releases on reputable indie-labels ( Warp Records, Plus 8). See also de:Kenny Larkin. I think that is enough Biezl ( talk) 14:05, 15 June 2008 (UTC) reply

• Comment Would suggest just writing up a new article, the original article was just one sentence long and said 'Techno artist from Detroit that runs his own record label Art of Dance.' Davewild ( talk) 14:09, 15 June 2008 (UTC) reply

Ok, so I withdraw my request for deletion review -- Biezl ( talk) 15:43, 15 June 2008 (UTC) reply