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Hello, the Conservapedia license does not transfer copyright to Conservapedia. Copyright is retained by the author. What the license does is give Conservapedia an irrevocable license. It's not incompatible with Wikipedia, as evidenced by section 2. "By contributing information to Conservapedia, you irrevocably consent to the display, copying, reuse or editing of your information, edits and entries, with or without attribution". No restriction is placed on the author posting his content elsewhere. In addition, the spirit of copyright laws is to keep people from stealing the lawful property of others, not to bar them from using their own. Geoff Plourde ( talk) 19:00, 4 November 2011 (UTC) reply
The Conservapedia license is obviously incompatible with Wikipedia, because it is revocable. It is not clear from their copyright statement whether or not contributors transfer copyright to the project or not. Additionally, it has not been yet established that User:RobSmith on Conservapedia is User:Nobs01 on Wikipedia, which would be absolutely necessary in order to retain this content. As for copyright barring people from using their own work - this happens to musicians and authors all the time, as in the case of CRC Press suing Mathworld. Dcoetzee 03:06, 5 November 2011 (UTC) reply
This issue had been resolved by User:Toon05 two years ago and has now been re-tagged. Can the tags be removed now? nobs ( talk) 18:32, 6 November 2011 (UTC) reply
I am not satisfied that that user had a complete understanding of the situation, due to the complex ambiguity of Conservapedia's copyright policy, and whatever evidence they are referring to is gone, as the Conservapedia user no longer has any user page or talk page. See my questions at Wikipedia_talk:Copyright#Copying_from_Conservapedia. I want to get these answers before this situation can be resolved. Dcoetzee 00:14, 8 November 2011 (UTC) reply
  • Permission plausible Article relisted under today. I believe that Toon probably accurately assessed the situation, but unfortunately we don't have any way to verify this for our records. I'm talking to Nobs01 about some possible approaches here. I think if we can document that RobSmith and Nobs01 are the same person, we may be able to publish the content pending some formal complaint. What we cannot do is publish it without that, since our attorney has indicated that the revocable license of Conservapedia is incompatible with our requirements. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:03, 13 November 2011 (UTC) reply
The page creator (who had signed his name as the maintainer of the page, which I've removed under WP:OWN) appears to be the author of the material but it is introduced as an extract from his (apparently unpublished) book. The article starts "Castles, Monasteries and Monuments (Extract from 'Birmingham to Bermingham' by Douglas P. Bermingham)". Suspect he needs to donate to Wikipedia or someone needs to rewrite? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tt 225 ( talkcontribs) 00:20, 2 November 2011 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Suspected copyright violations (CorenSearchBot reports)

SCV for 2011-11-01 Edit Wikipedia:Suspected copyright violations/2011-11-01

Copyright investigations (manual article tagging)
Hello, the Conservapedia license does not transfer copyright to Conservapedia. Copyright is retained by the author. What the license does is give Conservapedia an irrevocable license. It's not incompatible with Wikipedia, as evidenced by section 2. "By contributing information to Conservapedia, you irrevocably consent to the display, copying, reuse or editing of your information, edits and entries, with or without attribution". No restriction is placed on the author posting his content elsewhere. In addition, the spirit of copyright laws is to keep people from stealing the lawful property of others, not to bar them from using their own. Geoff Plourde ( talk) 19:00, 4 November 2011 (UTC) reply
The Conservapedia license is obviously incompatible with Wikipedia, because it is revocable. It is not clear from their copyright statement whether or not contributors transfer copyright to the project or not. Additionally, it has not been yet established that User:RobSmith on Conservapedia is User:Nobs01 on Wikipedia, which would be absolutely necessary in order to retain this content. As for copyright barring people from using their own work - this happens to musicians and authors all the time, as in the case of CRC Press suing Mathworld. Dcoetzee 03:06, 5 November 2011 (UTC) reply
This issue had been resolved by User:Toon05 two years ago and has now been re-tagged. Can the tags be removed now? nobs ( talk) 18:32, 6 November 2011 (UTC) reply
I am not satisfied that that user had a complete understanding of the situation, due to the complex ambiguity of Conservapedia's copyright policy, and whatever evidence they are referring to is gone, as the Conservapedia user no longer has any user page or talk page. See my questions at Wikipedia_talk:Copyright#Copying_from_Conservapedia. I want to get these answers before this situation can be resolved. Dcoetzee 00:14, 8 November 2011 (UTC) reply
  • Permission plausible Article relisted under today. I believe that Toon probably accurately assessed the situation, but unfortunately we don't have any way to verify this for our records. I'm talking to Nobs01 about some possible approaches here. I think if we can document that RobSmith and Nobs01 are the same person, we may be able to publish the content pending some formal complaint. What we cannot do is publish it without that, since our attorney has indicated that the revocable license of Conservapedia is incompatible with our requirements. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:03, 13 November 2011 (UTC) reply
The page creator (who had signed his name as the maintainer of the page, which I've removed under WP:OWN) appears to be the author of the material but it is introduced as an extract from his (apparently unpublished) book. The article starts "Castles, Monasteries and Monuments (Extract from 'Birmingham to Bermingham' by Douglas P. Bermingham)". Suspect he needs to donate to Wikipedia or someone needs to rewrite? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tt 225 ( talkcontribs) 00:20, 2 November 2011 (UTC) reply

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