Honolulu Record(
history ·
last edit) - original revision is from
http://conservapedia.com/Koji_Ariyoshi, see
[1]. I found this based on a
leaked Conservapedia mailing list message: "Likewise WP's Honolulu Record article, the commie rag Obama's mentor wrote for, was cut and pasted together from two Conservapedia articles, and Corenbot did not detect it." Note that although the same user
User:Nobs01 may have written it on Conservapedia (if they are User:RobSmith, which has not been confirmed), it remains unclear whether Conservapedia's copyright terms transfer copyright to the Conservapedia project or not. Conservapedia has a Wikipedia-incompatible license. Several similar articles below.
Dcoetzee03:50, 1 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Hello, the Conservapedia license does not transfer copyright to Conservapedia. Copyright is retained by the author. What the license does is give Conservapedia an irrevocable license. It's not incompatible with Wikipedia, as evidenced by section 2. "By contributing information to Conservapedia, you irrevocably consent to the display, copying, reuse or editing of your information, edits and entries, with or without attribution". No restriction is placed on the author posting his content elsewhere. In addition, the spirit of copyright laws is to keep people from stealing the lawful property of others, not to bar them from using their own.
Geoff Plourde (
talk)
19:00, 4 November 2011 (UTC)reply
The
Conservapedia license is obviously incompatible with Wikipedia, because it is revocable. It is not clear from their copyright statement whether or not contributors transfer copyright to the project or not. Additionally, it has not been yet established that User:RobSmith on Conservapedia is
User:Nobs01 on Wikipedia, which would be absolutely necessary in order to retain this content. As for copyright barring people from using their own work - this happens to musicians and authors all the time, as in the case of
CRC Press suing Mathworld.
Dcoetzee03:06, 5 November 2011 (UTC)reply
I am not satisfied that that user had a complete understanding of the situation, due to the complex ambiguity of Conservapedia's copyright policy, and whatever evidence they are referring to is gone, as the Conservapedia user no longer has any user page or talk page. See my questions at
Wikipedia_talk:Copyright#Copying_from_Conservapedia. I want to get these answers before this situation can be resolved.
Dcoetzee00:14, 8 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Permission plausible Article relisted under today. I believe that Toon probably accurately assessed the situation, but unfortunately we don't have any way to verify this for our records. I'm talking to Nobs01 about some possible approaches here. I think if we can document that RobSmith and Nobs01 are the same person, we may be able to publish the content pending some formal complaint. What we cannot do is publish it without that, since our attorney has indicated that the revocable license of Conservapedia is incompatible with our requirements. --
Moonriddengirl(talk)14:03, 13 November 2011 (UTC)reply
An email regarding this article was received in the permissions queue as
ticket 2011102210006511 but it was not sent from the email address on the contact page. I have forwarded that email to the email address on the contact page asking them to confirm the release.
MorganKevinJ(talk)21:40, 30 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Bermingham_Castles_of_Ireland I suspect this is innocent, but leave it to others more experienced as to how to handle it.
The page creator (who had signed his name as the maintainer of the page, which I've removed under
WP:OWN) appears to be the author of the material but it is introduced as an extract from his (apparently unpublished) book. The article starts "Castles, Monasteries and Monuments (Extract from 'Birmingham to Bermingham' by Douglas P. Bermingham)". Suspect he needs to donate to Wikipedia or someone needs to rewrite? — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Tt 225 (
talk •
contribs)
00:20, 2 November 2011 (UTC)reply
You're quite right; I'm joining you in investigating this and have blanked the article pending clarification. This has been relisted to allow time for that to proceed. --
Moonriddengirl(talk)15:04, 13 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Honolulu Record(
history ·
last edit) - original revision is from
http://conservapedia.com/Koji_Ariyoshi, see
[1]. I found this based on a
leaked Conservapedia mailing list message: "Likewise WP's Honolulu Record article, the commie rag Obama's mentor wrote for, was cut and pasted together from two Conservapedia articles, and Corenbot did not detect it." Note that although the same user
User:Nobs01 may have written it on Conservapedia (if they are User:RobSmith, which has not been confirmed), it remains unclear whether Conservapedia's copyright terms transfer copyright to the Conservapedia project or not. Conservapedia has a Wikipedia-incompatible license. Several similar articles below.
Dcoetzee03:50, 1 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Hello, the Conservapedia license does not transfer copyright to Conservapedia. Copyright is retained by the author. What the license does is give Conservapedia an irrevocable license. It's not incompatible with Wikipedia, as evidenced by section 2. "By contributing information to Conservapedia, you irrevocably consent to the display, copying, reuse or editing of your information, edits and entries, with or without attribution". No restriction is placed on the author posting his content elsewhere. In addition, the spirit of copyright laws is to keep people from stealing the lawful property of others, not to bar them from using their own.
Geoff Plourde (
talk)
19:00, 4 November 2011 (UTC)reply
The
Conservapedia license is obviously incompatible with Wikipedia, because it is revocable. It is not clear from their copyright statement whether or not contributors transfer copyright to the project or not. Additionally, it has not been yet established that User:RobSmith on Conservapedia is
User:Nobs01 on Wikipedia, which would be absolutely necessary in order to retain this content. As for copyright barring people from using their own work - this happens to musicians and authors all the time, as in the case of
CRC Press suing Mathworld.
Dcoetzee03:06, 5 November 2011 (UTC)reply
I am not satisfied that that user had a complete understanding of the situation, due to the complex ambiguity of Conservapedia's copyright policy, and whatever evidence they are referring to is gone, as the Conservapedia user no longer has any user page or talk page. See my questions at
Wikipedia_talk:Copyright#Copying_from_Conservapedia. I want to get these answers before this situation can be resolved.
Dcoetzee00:14, 8 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Permission plausible Article relisted under today. I believe that Toon probably accurately assessed the situation, but unfortunately we don't have any way to verify this for our records. I'm talking to Nobs01 about some possible approaches here. I think if we can document that RobSmith and Nobs01 are the same person, we may be able to publish the content pending some formal complaint. What we cannot do is publish it without that, since our attorney has indicated that the revocable license of Conservapedia is incompatible with our requirements. --
Moonriddengirl(talk)14:03, 13 November 2011 (UTC)reply
An email regarding this article was received in the permissions queue as
ticket 2011102210006511 but it was not sent from the email address on the contact page. I have forwarded that email to the email address on the contact page asking them to confirm the release.
MorganKevinJ(talk)21:40, 30 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Bermingham_Castles_of_Ireland I suspect this is innocent, but leave it to others more experienced as to how to handle it.
The page creator (who had signed his name as the maintainer of the page, which I've removed under
WP:OWN) appears to be the author of the material but it is introduced as an extract from his (apparently unpublished) book. The article starts "Castles, Monasteries and Monuments (Extract from 'Birmingham to Bermingham' by Douglas P. Bermingham)". Suspect he needs to donate to Wikipedia or someone needs to rewrite? — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Tt 225 (
talk •
contribs)
00:20, 2 November 2011 (UTC)reply
You're quite right; I'm joining you in investigating this and have blanked the article pending clarification. This has been relisted to allow time for that to proceed. --
Moonriddengirl(talk)15:04, 13 November 2011 (UTC)reply