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Incomplete but evidently earnest effort to assert permission. Left further instructions how to proceed. Could not find a direct e-mail contact at website. Recommend allowing several more days at least for the contributor to return. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 00:37, 16 July 2008 (UTC) reply
Contributor released source under GFDL at website. Attributed. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:14, 17 July 2008 (UTC) reply
Contributor asserts at talk page that permissions letter was sent on July 10th. Recommend allowing until about July 18th before taking further action. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 00:39, 16 July 2008 (UTC) reply
Comment: The article had been around for a while, but extensive copyvio has existed since it was first created. I had thought to strip it to the introductory paragraph and the list of characters, but the introductory paragraph was copied from another source, which openly states that it is not for reuse on Wikipedia (and again). -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 00:46, 16 July 2008 (UTC) reply
Comment Brand new stub created. Copyvio and GFDL vio-free. I don't know if it's notable, because I can't read the sources. But it had lots of incoming links. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:05, 16 July 2008 (UTC) reply
Tagger indicated issue resolved. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:06, 16 July 2008 (UTC) reply
One sentence properly attributed and quoted, well within fair use guidelines. No copyright violation detected. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:20, 16 July 2008 (UTC) reply
Already turned into a redirect. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:31, 16 July 2008 (UTC) reply
Tagged it with {{ Cv-unsure}}. I could not locate a source. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:40, 16 July 2008 (UTC) reply
Okay. I'll see if I can find a Bulgarian speaker. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:36, 16 July 2008 (UTC) reply
I've requested assistance from User:Jingiby in reviewing the source. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:04, 16 July 2008 (UTC) reply
No copyvio detected. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 03:11, 17 July 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Pteridomania( history · last edit) from [8]. Came to artcle through report at Wikipedia:Suspected copyright violations. Original 52.6% of the article comes from direct quotes from Peter Boyd's page, while much of the rest is paraphrased from the same site. I attempted to correct this excessive use of quote material by removing it, but creating author feels it is justified and does not agree that it is a copyright violation. After he reverted the removal a third time, decided it was best to just report it and let others chime in. Last revert he claimed to shorten the quotes [9] but they still make up a significant portion of the article. -- Collectonian ( talk · contribs) 21:14, 8 July 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Speedy remove copyright tag - The article version in question is here (Revision as of 17:32, 8 July 2008). The 17:32 revision contained three quotes. The first quote (beginning with "Your daughters") was from 1855 and unlikely to be copyrighted anywhere. The percentage of potential copyright problem material was about 21% (= 1,464 characters/6,897 characters). The second quote (beginning with "The Victorians") and the third quote (beginning with "Ferns could be") was from peterboyd.com (Peter Boyd's personal website) and likely not a Wikipedia reliable source. I think using Boyd's web summary of his own writing raises Wikipedia reliable source issues. Information from the second and third quote should have been sourced directly to one of Boyd's many publications, including BOYD, P.D.A. 1993(a). Pteridomania - the Victorian passion for ferns. Antique Collecting 28, 6, 9-12. As I see it, the first quote wasn't copyrighted material, the information from the second and third quote very likely could have been sourced to one of Boyd's many publications, paraphrasing didn't contribute to any copyright problem, an experienced editor was working on the article, and the editor was in the process of addressing the raised copyright issues (not merely reverting). Tagging the article as having copyright problems seems overreactive. If there was a need, the article could have been protected and the discussion continued on the article talk page. In any event, the copyright tag should be removed and the matter handled differently. GregManninLB ( talk) 23:52, 8 July 2008 (UTC) reply
  • The revision contained three lengthy quotes, combined with semi-reworded parts of the same article. I responded to a copyvio report. I felt the quotes went past the acceptable level. Rather than tag for CSD, I thought the article could be fixed by removing the quotes. HouseOfScandal reverted and asked for specific policies. I pointed him to WP:COPYVIO, WP:COPYRIGHT, and WP:NONFREE and I attempted to discuss. However, he continued putting back the quotes and refused to believe that using so much quoted material was even a possibly copyright violation. As he and could not come to any sort of agreement and communication was impossible, I felt it best to follow the dictated procedure at Wikipedia:Suspected copyright violations‎ to "Send non-blatant copyright infringements" here. If that isn't correct, then the instructions on that page should be appropriately corrected to whatever is correct (though that makes me ask what is the purpose of this page?) -- Collectonian ( talk · contribs) 03:51, 9 July 2008 (UTC) reply
  • I could pick that statement apart sentence-by-sentence in comparison of actual events (note: [10] and [11]), but it hardly seems worth the fuss. I hope it suffices to say that the above statement is a ridiculous mischaracterization of actual events by an editor who seems overly anxious for conflict. - House of Scandal ( talk) 13:32, 9 July 2008 (UTC) reply
  • No, you can't, because it is what happened, whether you want to believe it or not. It was clear from the discussion, or attempt thereof, on my talk page, that you and I would not come to a consensus so I followed the next logical step. You are the one who is taking everything so personally just because this article was apparently up for a DYK. -- Collectonian ( talk · contribs) 14:12, 9 July 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Tag removed - clearly labeled quotes that attribute the source(s) are not copyvio when used in moderation. However, it would be better to support the article with additional, varied sources, instead of primarily through one author. -- EncycloPetey ( talk) 17:12, 9 July 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Permission appears on the freezedown.org web site. Do we need to record this in OTRS? -- Robocoder
Display at the source is sufficient. This is just DumbBOT doing it's duplication thing again. This is a re-list. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:08, 16 July 2008 (UTC) reply

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Incomplete but evidently earnest effort to assert permission. Left further instructions how to proceed. Could not find a direct e-mail contact at website. Recommend allowing several more days at least for the contributor to return. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 00:37, 16 July 2008 (UTC) reply
Contributor released source under GFDL at website. Attributed. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:14, 17 July 2008 (UTC) reply
Contributor asserts at talk page that permissions letter was sent on July 10th. Recommend allowing until about July 18th before taking further action. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 00:39, 16 July 2008 (UTC) reply
Comment: The article had been around for a while, but extensive copyvio has existed since it was first created. I had thought to strip it to the introductory paragraph and the list of characters, but the introductory paragraph was copied from another source, which openly states that it is not for reuse on Wikipedia (and again). -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 00:46, 16 July 2008 (UTC) reply
Comment Brand new stub created. Copyvio and GFDL vio-free. I don't know if it's notable, because I can't read the sources. But it had lots of incoming links. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:05, 16 July 2008 (UTC) reply
Tagger indicated issue resolved. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:06, 16 July 2008 (UTC) reply
One sentence properly attributed and quoted, well within fair use guidelines. No copyright violation detected. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:20, 16 July 2008 (UTC) reply
Already turned into a redirect. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:31, 16 July 2008 (UTC) reply
Tagged it with {{ Cv-unsure}}. I could not locate a source. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:40, 16 July 2008 (UTC) reply
Okay. I'll see if I can find a Bulgarian speaker. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:36, 16 July 2008 (UTC) reply
I've requested assistance from User:Jingiby in reviewing the source. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:04, 16 July 2008 (UTC) reply
No copyvio detected. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 03:11, 17 July 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Pteridomania( history · last edit) from [8]. Came to artcle through report at Wikipedia:Suspected copyright violations. Original 52.6% of the article comes from direct quotes from Peter Boyd's page, while much of the rest is paraphrased from the same site. I attempted to correct this excessive use of quote material by removing it, but creating author feels it is justified and does not agree that it is a copyright violation. After he reverted the removal a third time, decided it was best to just report it and let others chime in. Last revert he claimed to shorten the quotes [9] but they still make up a significant portion of the article. -- Collectonian ( talk · contribs) 21:14, 8 July 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Speedy remove copyright tag - The article version in question is here (Revision as of 17:32, 8 July 2008). The 17:32 revision contained three quotes. The first quote (beginning with "Your daughters") was from 1855 and unlikely to be copyrighted anywhere. The percentage of potential copyright problem material was about 21% (= 1,464 characters/6,897 characters). The second quote (beginning with "The Victorians") and the third quote (beginning with "Ferns could be") was from peterboyd.com (Peter Boyd's personal website) and likely not a Wikipedia reliable source. I think using Boyd's web summary of his own writing raises Wikipedia reliable source issues. Information from the second and third quote should have been sourced directly to one of Boyd's many publications, including BOYD, P.D.A. 1993(a). Pteridomania - the Victorian passion for ferns. Antique Collecting 28, 6, 9-12. As I see it, the first quote wasn't copyrighted material, the information from the second and third quote very likely could have been sourced to one of Boyd's many publications, paraphrasing didn't contribute to any copyright problem, an experienced editor was working on the article, and the editor was in the process of addressing the raised copyright issues (not merely reverting). Tagging the article as having copyright problems seems overreactive. If there was a need, the article could have been protected and the discussion continued on the article talk page. In any event, the copyright tag should be removed and the matter handled differently. GregManninLB ( talk) 23:52, 8 July 2008 (UTC) reply
  • The revision contained three lengthy quotes, combined with semi-reworded parts of the same article. I responded to a copyvio report. I felt the quotes went past the acceptable level. Rather than tag for CSD, I thought the article could be fixed by removing the quotes. HouseOfScandal reverted and asked for specific policies. I pointed him to WP:COPYVIO, WP:COPYRIGHT, and WP:NONFREE and I attempted to discuss. However, he continued putting back the quotes and refused to believe that using so much quoted material was even a possibly copyright violation. As he and could not come to any sort of agreement and communication was impossible, I felt it best to follow the dictated procedure at Wikipedia:Suspected copyright violations‎ to "Send non-blatant copyright infringements" here. If that isn't correct, then the instructions on that page should be appropriately corrected to whatever is correct (though that makes me ask what is the purpose of this page?) -- Collectonian ( talk · contribs) 03:51, 9 July 2008 (UTC) reply
  • I could pick that statement apart sentence-by-sentence in comparison of actual events (note: [10] and [11]), but it hardly seems worth the fuss. I hope it suffices to say that the above statement is a ridiculous mischaracterization of actual events by an editor who seems overly anxious for conflict. - House of Scandal ( talk) 13:32, 9 July 2008 (UTC) reply
  • No, you can't, because it is what happened, whether you want to believe it or not. It was clear from the discussion, or attempt thereof, on my talk page, that you and I would not come to a consensus so I followed the next logical step. You are the one who is taking everything so personally just because this article was apparently up for a DYK. -- Collectonian ( talk · contribs) 14:12, 9 July 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Tag removed - clearly labeled quotes that attribute the source(s) are not copyvio when used in moderation. However, it would be better to support the article with additional, varied sources, instead of primarily through one author. -- EncycloPetey ( talk) 17:12, 9 July 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Permission appears on the freezedown.org web site. Do we need to record this in OTRS? -- Robocoder
Display at the source is sufficient. This is just DumbBOT doing it's duplication thing again. This is a re-list. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:08, 16 July 2008 (UTC) reply

( t| c) 03:33, 16 July 2008 (UTC) reply


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