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Category:Flanders Campaign 1793–94
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C. RemoveCategory:History of Flanders: inadequate for this article; just because British historians have termed it "Flanders campaign" doesn't mean Flanders as a county was particularly relevant here, only as part of the larger Austrian Netherlands.
My point #1 (see talk page) was that Austrian Netherlands is too narrow for the scope of the subject, and that the Dutch Republic, the Prince-Bishopric of Liège and all the other smaller semi-independent polities in the south should be included as they were interlinked.
We obviously do not agree with each other on keeping this in the tree of the
Austrian Netherlands. The Austrian Netherlands had not ceased to exist during this war, it only ceased to exist as a result of (hence at the conclusion of) the war.
Marcocapelle (
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15:52, 31 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment — would the contributors please fix the indentation and signing of their contributions? I'm finding this incomprehensible. If you have 3 subcategory rename suggestions, numbering them would help, but better to not make them look like nominations. William Allen Simpson (
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07:31, 8 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment Still confused as to what exactly it is that we're being asked to approve. Can we get a single statement please of all the asks?
Laurel Lodged (
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07:40, 2 June 2023 (UTC)reply
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Laurel Lodged: the main question is, should we have a combined category for the French conquest of the low lands because it was one war theatre, or should we have two separate categories because it concerns two different countries. As appears at the end of the discussion, it does not matter a lot because we can have two country subcategories of one war theatre parent category, so we are already close to consensus. The only real question left, not for now, perhaps for a different discussion, is if this theatre category is arbitrarily defined.
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12:03, 2 June 2023 (UTC)reply
I see that Srnec has just turned the former main page name into a disamb:
Flanders campaign.
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Category:Ted Lasso
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Marcocapelle I did not assume anything. The nominator says redundant to the episodes cat. I've listed 3 pages that don't belong there, hence why this category isn't redundant. Also, please let us know how
WP:OCEPON relates to this? The "Ted Lasso" in the category name isn't a person (or fictional character) but the name of the television series. Did you mean to link to something else?
Gonnym (
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13:32, 1 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Oppose this seems like a perfectly valid parent cat, of which the episodes cat can be a child. I do question if Bill Lawrence needs to included in this, but the main article and the awards list are good. -
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15:29, 1 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete. Needs more than just the episodes subcat and a list. The episodes subcat can certainly survive as a standalone without the need for an eponymous parent category. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me21:34, 1 June 2023 (UTC)reply
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Category:Cemeteries in Chowan County, North Carolina
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Nominator's rationale: This type of category is not used for that many other football leagues with promotion and relegation. Status of if clubs are playing or have played in the league is better conveyed in articles
English Football League and
List of former English Football League clubs.
Merge As appropriate, clubs have categories for year of disestablishment and this would serve the same function. (I would also support future nominations with Teterev53's examples.) -
RevelationDirect (
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01:42, 3 June 2023 (UTC)reply
You don't understand. That categories are not for defunct (disestablished) clubs. They are categorized by former league of club, and many active clubs in it.
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23:14, 4 June 2023 (UTC)reply
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Category:St Fintan's High School
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Category:Under-23 cricket teams
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Bangladesh and
NZ, and as under-23 cricket is not a common age range for cricket events, unlikely more articles will be created for under-23 teams.
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Category:Youth cricket in the United States
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Category:Flanders Campaign 1793–94
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C. RemoveCategory:History of Flanders: inadequate for this article; just because British historians have termed it "Flanders campaign" doesn't mean Flanders as a county was particularly relevant here, only as part of the larger Austrian Netherlands.
My point #1 (see talk page) was that Austrian Netherlands is too narrow for the scope of the subject, and that the Dutch Republic, the Prince-Bishopric of Liège and all the other smaller semi-independent polities in the south should be included as they were interlinked.
We obviously do not agree with each other on keeping this in the tree of the
Austrian Netherlands. The Austrian Netherlands had not ceased to exist during this war, it only ceased to exist as a result of (hence at the conclusion of) the war.
Marcocapelle (
talk)
15:52, 31 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment — would the contributors please fix the indentation and signing of their contributions? I'm finding this incomprehensible. If you have 3 subcategory rename suggestions, numbering them would help, but better to not make them look like nominations. William Allen Simpson (
talk)
07:31, 8 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment Still confused as to what exactly it is that we're being asked to approve. Can we get a single statement please of all the asks?
Laurel Lodged (
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07:40, 2 June 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Laurel Lodged: the main question is, should we have a combined category for the French conquest of the low lands because it was one war theatre, or should we have two separate categories because it concerns two different countries. As appears at the end of the discussion, it does not matter a lot because we can have two country subcategories of one war theatre parent category, so we are already close to consensus. The only real question left, not for now, perhaps for a different discussion, is if this theatre category is arbitrarily defined.
Marcocapelle (
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12:03, 2 June 2023 (UTC)reply
I see that Srnec has just turned the former main page name into a disamb:
Flanders campaign.
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Category:Ted Lasso
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Marcocapelle I did not assume anything. The nominator says redundant to the episodes cat. I've listed 3 pages that don't belong there, hence why this category isn't redundant. Also, please let us know how
WP:OCEPON relates to this? The "Ted Lasso" in the category name isn't a person (or fictional character) but the name of the television series. Did you mean to link to something else?
Gonnym (
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13:32, 1 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Oppose this seems like a perfectly valid parent cat, of which the episodes cat can be a child. I do question if Bill Lawrence needs to included in this, but the main article and the awards list are good. -
Favre1fan93 (
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15:29, 1 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete. Needs more than just the episodes subcat and a list. The episodes subcat can certainly survive as a standalone without the need for an eponymous parent category. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me21:34, 1 June 2023 (UTC)reply
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Category:Cemeteries in Chowan County, North Carolina
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Nominator's rationale: This type of category is not used for that many other football leagues with promotion and relegation. Status of if clubs are playing or have played in the league is better conveyed in articles
English Football League and
List of former English Football League clubs.
Merge As appropriate, clubs have categories for year of disestablishment and this would serve the same function. (I would also support future nominations with Teterev53's examples.) -
RevelationDirect (
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01:42, 3 June 2023 (UTC)reply
You don't understand. That categories are not for defunct (disestablished) clubs. They are categorized by former league of club, and many active clubs in it.
Teterev53 (
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23:14, 4 June 2023 (UTC)reply
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Category:Under-23 cricket teams
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