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Category:Lithuanian Hindus
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Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Hinduism in Lithuania Lithuanian people
Estopedist1 (
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Merge but only to
Category:European Hindus. The "Hinduism in country" categories are topic categories, not meant to contain biographies, and besides these three should be nominated for upmerging too.
Category:Lithuanian people and siblings are no good merge targets because the articles are already much further down in the trees of those.
Marcocapelle (
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Merge - but why not also siblings for Spain Portugal, Gibraltar and Italy, which are equally ill-populated. Hindus are overwhelmingly of Indian extraction and have migrated principally to UK, so that the low population on continental Europe is to be expected. Not sure whether to merge to
Category:European Hindus or the nom's full upmerge.
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Merge but not to "Anglicanism in country" categories. These are topic categories, not meant to contain biographies - and besides these two should be nominated for upmerging too.
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Category:Lost historical records
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Nominator's rationale: There isn't really a clear difference between these two categories, as all documents are records and are technically historical by way of history being a way in which knowledge is recorded by writing. Furthermore, everything in the "lost documents" section appear to be texts of some degree of historical significance/interest to begin with, which further obscures the need for "historical records" being a separate category.
Totalibe (
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I'd have to agree, since ALL of these articles, apart from the
1890 United States census page, are about fires. And there are, undoubtedly, other examples of fires in archives as well.
Historyday01 (
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I have to disagree, as the articles are already in various
Category:Fires by type, and other more specific fires categories (country, place, year). This is only about the loss of documents. William Allen Simpson (
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Tribes
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Support, removing "tribe" is simpler and less confusing since these are broad categories, as nominated has explained.
Yuchitown (
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Support, as if this was implemented, it could help avoid confusion and even allow for possible subcategories as needed.
Historyday01 (
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Support removal of "tribe" from any and all categories where it is not part of the official name. As a note, where it is official it should be capitalized anyway. --
ARoseWolf 16:18, 21 February 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Fayenatic london: this must be an example of
WP:ENGVAR education. The
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC should be the tribe, with so many places named after them. The perfidious Seneca are the first natives that American schoolchildren are taught to hate (followed by Comanches and Apaches) from an early age. They sided with the British, and blocked the
Erie Canal, so they had to be "removed." Meanwhile, I don't recall learning about
Seneca the Younger (or his father) at all. At university, we spent considerable time on
Cicero because of his influence on
Jeffersonian democracy. William Allen Simpson (
talk) 15:06, 11 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Could be. As a boy, I had a colouring book about Native Americans; I remember Apache, Cheyenne and Comanche, but don't remember knowing there was a Seneca people. There has not been a PRIMARYTOPIC at the disambiguation page
Seneca except from 2013
[1] until 2014
[2] when it was
Seneca the Younger. –
FayenaticLondon 15:40, 11 March 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Fayenatic london: Those are all western tribes, later conflicts,
Cowboys and Indians. We were taught the Seneca viciously attacked the Huron and ethnically cleansed them. I'm from Michigan near the Huron River west of Lake Huron, so maybe that's regional instruction. In part that's the justification for "removing" the Seneca. When children are taught about the
French and Indian Wars and the
American Revolutionary War, we learn that the Seneca were allies of George Washington during the former, then betrayed him in the latter. There are books and films, 19th century romanticised white savior drama. Anyway, I'd oppose Seneca the Younger as primary topic. According to the current article, The tribe's name has no logical connection with the ancient Roman statesmen.... There is a moon crater and asteroid named after him (and other philosophers), but most place names are about the Seneca people. William Allen Simpson (
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Qwerfjkltalk 19:04, 28 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge Walla Walla/Rename the Rest This is clearer than the current "tribe" format. -
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Support per nomination. For ones that might be ambiguous (Seneca, Mohawk?, Walla Walla) I suggest
Category:Seneca people but I'm cool with the consensus decision on how exactly to relabel/rephrase. @
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Category:Ministers' Baptist Higher Secondary School alumni
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Nominator's rationale:WP:SMALLCAT for just three alumni of a high school. As always, every high school that exists does not automatically get one of these as a matter of course -- they're fine if there are a lot of notable alumni of that high school, but not just if there are only two or three, and checking the school's "what links here" didn't turn up anybody else that could be added. Then, for no apparent reason, it's also filed as a subcategory of
Category:Ministers' Hill Baptist Higher Secondary School alumni, despite the school's article not containing any indication of what would make Minister's Hill and Minister's Not-Hill two separate things for the purposes of needing two separate categories, and of
Category:Ministers' Hill Baptist Higher Secondary School, which exists only to sit between the underpopulated alumni category and the category for the town the high school is in -- which means that neither of those categories are necessary either.
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Category:District in Northern province of Rwanda
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Nominator's rationale:WP:SMALLCAT for just two districts. Wikipedia does not currently have any scheme of subdividing
Category:Districts of Rwanda by individual province, and even if that were desirable this would not be the category's correct name anyway.
Bearcat (
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Delete as superfluous.
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Category:Latton, Essex
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Nominator's rationale:WP:SMALLCAT for a former small community which is now just an area within a larger (but still relatively) small town rather than its own thing. There are just two articles here, but there would have to be a lot more than just two articles to file here before a dedicated category was justified.
Bearcat (
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likewise with the parish, it has an 800 year history, that I am slowly cataloging.
You don't get to create a small underpopulated category first and then claim you're going to create content to populate it later. That's not how this works: you create the content first, and then you can come back and create a category to hold the content after the content already exists.
Bearcat (
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Again, didn't no that, nor does it clearly mention that it is against the rules. I didn't think it would let me do something that is wrong. it allowed me, so I went with it.
DRS311 (
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Delete per
WP:SMALLCAT without objection to recreate the category when there are a handful more articles.
Marcocapelle (
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Merge to Harlow. I see no reason in principle why there should not be an article on
Latton, Harlow (which currently redirects to Harlow), just as there is for
Old Harlow and
Great Parndon, other parishes incorporated into the New Town, but there is not. Even if there was, it does not mean that there should be a category.
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Category:Church of St Mary the Virgin, Harlow
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Nominator's rationale:Eponymous category for a smalltown church without the volume of spinoff content needed to justify an eponymous category. All that's here is the head article, one biography of one person who was once rector of it (but that's not what he's primarily notable for, and thus including him is the religious equivalent of a
WP:PERFCAT), and one photograph, which is not sufficient to render a smalltown church as being in need of its own dedicated category.
Bearcat (
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it was to help catalog all the photos I have of the
one photograph ??? I have unload 100s
DRS311 (
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I still have a lot more to load.
DRS311 (
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Roger Altham, is attached to the church, and i have a lot more people to add to the cat.
The Altham, The Arkwright, The Burgoyne and the Lushington etc etc.
DRS311 (
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We do not mix articles with photographs in articlespace categories. There may be an "images of X" category for only the photographs with no articles, or an "X" category for only articles with no photographs, but there cannot be a mix of both articles and photographs in the same category. And it doesn't matter how many photos you've uploaded, either — it matters how many photos you've actually filed in the category, and there's only one photograph filed in the category. And also, furthermore, we do not upload duplicate copies to Wikipedia of photos that you've already uploaded as CC to Commons — we just directly use the Commons copy itself.
Bearcat (
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I didn't know that sorry, it does not say not to mix articles and photographs. my apologies. they should make that clearer, thank you.
DRS311 (
talk) 18:07, 8 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Also didn't no about the duplicates, thought they were separate website.
DRS311 (
talk) 18:08, 8 March 2023 (UTC)reply
"Commons" is the name. It is a common centrally located place for all the languages. William Allen Simpson (
talk) 03:04, 16 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete -- Smallcat. Do not think there is anything to merge.
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Nominator's rationale:Eponymous category for a small community (pop. 3K) without sufficient content to justify an eponymous category. As always, every place that exists does not automatically get one of these as a matter of course -- it's warranted if there are a lot of things to file in it, but not if there are only one or two. And for added bonus,
Cutchogue, New York isn't even its own standalone town anyway -- it's merely a community within the town of
Southold, which already has its own, much better populated
Category:Southold, New York that these two articles can be filed in without needing a special layer of Cutchogue categorization.
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Category:Residents of Lagos
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Nominator's rationale: Wikipedia does not do "residents of X" as a separate category tree from "people from X". The people-from tree is not applied solely on the basis of birthplace alone, such that a person who lived in Lagos somehow couldn't be categorized as "people from Lagos" if he or she wasn't actually born there -- they're applied solely on the basis of "lived in Lagos for long enough to have that be relevant to mention in their article at all, regardless of whether they were born there or not", meaning that there's no category-worthy distinction between "people from" and "residents of" at all.
Bearcat (
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DeleteWP:OVERLAPCAT and
WP:COP-PLACE. Assume any not in "People from" do not qualify there. We don't categorize by place of birth. (Only checked the first two of Fayenatic's list, but neither was in Lagos after the age of 10.) William Allen Simpson (
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Category:Shahidul Zahir
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Nominator's rationale:Eponymous category for a writer, without the volume of spinoff content needed to justify an eponymous category. As always, every writer who has a Wikipedia article does not automatically get one of these as a matter of course -- it's done for writers who have a lot of related content to categorize outside of the established "Works by..." scheme that already exists (e.g.
Category:William Shakespeare), but is not automatically created just to hold "Works by + head article". The category formerly included images of his book covers (which as non-free content can't be galleried in categories that mix them with articles) and a dedicated "Shahidul Zahir template" category that existed solely to contain the {{Shahidul Zahir}} navbox (but navboxes don't get their own dedicated "[person the navbox is for] template" categories either, except maybe in the rare case that there are several related but distinct navboxes for different aspects of the person's notability that need to be grouped together). So those have been removed as inappropriate entries, but that means all that's left is "Works by + head article", which isn't enough.
Bearcat (
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Delete, standard practice at CfD.
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Support as an improvement, even though it includes a few by island group as opposed to single islands. –
FayenaticLondon 08:15, 13 March 2023 (UTC)reply
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Category:Music videos directed by La La Land
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Delete —
WP:SMALLCAT. No
WP:V for
WP:N. There is no article for
La La Land (director). Moreover, we don't categorize every film director, nor directors of advertising commercials. We don't need categories for mere directors of music videos (originally commercials). There are thousands of music videos compared to feature films, so it is
WP:NONDEFINING. People who are notable for other things directing music videos is also
WP:NONDEFINING. William Allen Simpson (
talk) 17:25, 9 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete per William Allen Simpson. Having a music video isn't a defining aspect of these songs, so it really doesn't matter who directed them. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 04:56, 10 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete. One is unreferenced, the other three are cited only to visible credits on YouTube videos. –
FayenaticLondon 23:08, 13 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete, I agree with William Allen Simpson.
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Category:Sportspeople of Asian descent
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Nominator's rationale: recent proliferation of tiny categories with unusual and irrelevant hierarchical organization.
Wikipedia:Category naming does not provide for by region encapsulating by country.
Summary: Trivial intersection between occupation and ancestors' nationality.These are not harmless as these "regional" subcategories are also a proxy for race, and are understood that way. Continuing removals after categories were emptied by previous discussions.
Delete per the precedent of previous discussions. Regional/continental intersections at that level are a bad idea, and likely to be used only as a privacy for race.
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Delete, trivial intersection between occupation and ancestors' nationality.
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Category:Sportspeople of North American descent
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Nominator's rationale: recent proliferation of tiny categories with unusual and irrelevant hierarchical organization.
Wikipedia:Category naming does not provide for by region encapsulating by country. This parent shim has only 2 children, soon to be 1 child.
Summary: There's no rhyme nor reason for this convoluted tree, entangled with others, very few articles. Continuing removals after categories were emptied by previous discussions.
Delete, trivial intersection between occupation and ancestors' nationality.
Marcocapelle (
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Delete per the precedent of previous discussions. Regional/continental intersections at that level are a bad idea, and likely to be used only as a privacy for race.
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Category:Albums produced by Anderson Paak
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Nominator's rationale: A category for this record producer already exists, under his correctly stylized stage name.
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Category:Albums produced by Anderson Paak
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Nominator's rationale: Name of category doesn't match name on main article. That is, the category was created without the "." present in his stage name.
GiovanniSidwell (
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Nvm, looks like the target category does exist and this new one was created erroneously, will nominate for merge instead.
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Category:Lithuanian Hindus
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Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Hinduism in Lithuania Lithuanian people
Estopedist1 (
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Merge but only to
Category:European Hindus. The "Hinduism in country" categories are topic categories, not meant to contain biographies, and besides these three should be nominated for upmerging too.
Category:Lithuanian people and siblings are no good merge targets because the articles are already much further down in the trees of those.
Marcocapelle (
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Merge - but why not also siblings for Spain Portugal, Gibraltar and Italy, which are equally ill-populated. Hindus are overwhelmingly of Indian extraction and have migrated principally to UK, so that the low population on continental Europe is to be expected. Not sure whether to merge to
Category:European Hindus or the nom's full upmerge.
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Merge but not to "Anglicanism in country" categories. These are topic categories, not meant to contain biographies - and besides these two should be nominated for upmerging too.
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Category:Lost historical records
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Nominator's rationale: There isn't really a clear difference between these two categories, as all documents are records and are technically historical by way of history being a way in which knowledge is recorded by writing. Furthermore, everything in the "lost documents" section appear to be texts of some degree of historical significance/interest to begin with, which further obscures the need for "historical records" being a separate category.
Totalibe (
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I'd have to agree, since ALL of these articles, apart from the
1890 United States census page, are about fires. And there are, undoubtedly, other examples of fires in archives as well.
Historyday01 (
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I have to disagree, as the articles are already in various
Category:Fires by type, and other more specific fires categories (country, place, year). This is only about the loss of documents. William Allen Simpson (
talk) 03:19, 28 February 2023 (UTC)reply
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Tribes
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Support, removing "tribe" is simpler and less confusing since these are broad categories, as nominated has explained.
Yuchitown (
talk) 03:31, 21 February 2023 (UTC)Yuchitownreply
Support, as if this was implemented, it could help avoid confusion and even allow for possible subcategories as needed.
Historyday01 (
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Support removal of "tribe" from any and all categories where it is not part of the official name. As a note, where it is official it should be capitalized anyway. --
ARoseWolf 16:18, 21 February 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Fayenatic london: this must be an example of
WP:ENGVAR education. The
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC should be the tribe, with so many places named after them. The perfidious Seneca are the first natives that American schoolchildren are taught to hate (followed by Comanches and Apaches) from an early age. They sided with the British, and blocked the
Erie Canal, so they had to be "removed." Meanwhile, I don't recall learning about
Seneca the Younger (or his father) at all. At university, we spent considerable time on
Cicero because of his influence on
Jeffersonian democracy. William Allen Simpson (
talk) 15:06, 11 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Could be. As a boy, I had a colouring book about Native Americans; I remember Apache, Cheyenne and Comanche, but don't remember knowing there was a Seneca people. There has not been a PRIMARYTOPIC at the disambiguation page
Seneca except from 2013
[1] until 2014
[2] when it was
Seneca the Younger. –
FayenaticLondon 15:40, 11 March 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Fayenatic london: Those are all western tribes, later conflicts,
Cowboys and Indians. We were taught the Seneca viciously attacked the Huron and ethnically cleansed them. I'm from Michigan near the Huron River west of Lake Huron, so maybe that's regional instruction. In part that's the justification for "removing" the Seneca. When children are taught about the
French and Indian Wars and the
American Revolutionary War, we learn that the Seneca were allies of George Washington during the former, then betrayed him in the latter. There are books and films, 19th century romanticised white savior drama. Anyway, I'd oppose Seneca the Younger as primary topic. According to the current article, The tribe's name has no logical connection with the ancient Roman statesmen.... There is a moon crater and asteroid named after him (and other philosophers), but most place names are about the Seneca people. William Allen Simpson (
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Qwerfjkltalk 19:04, 28 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge Walla Walla/Rename the Rest This is clearer than the current "tribe" format. -
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Qwerfjkltalk 20:29, 8 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Support per nomination. For ones that might be ambiguous (Seneca, Mohawk?, Walla Walla) I suggest
Category:Seneca people but I'm cool with the consensus decision on how exactly to relabel/rephrase. @
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Category:Ministers' Baptist Higher Secondary School alumni
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Nominator's rationale:WP:SMALLCAT for just three alumni of a high school. As always, every high school that exists does not automatically get one of these as a matter of course -- they're fine if there are a lot of notable alumni of that high school, but not just if there are only two or three, and checking the school's "what links here" didn't turn up anybody else that could be added. Then, for no apparent reason, it's also filed as a subcategory of
Category:Ministers' Hill Baptist Higher Secondary School alumni, despite the school's article not containing any indication of what would make Minister's Hill and Minister's Not-Hill two separate things for the purposes of needing two separate categories, and of
Category:Ministers' Hill Baptist Higher Secondary School, which exists only to sit between the underpopulated alumni category and the category for the town the high school is in -- which means that neither of those categories are necessary either.
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Category:District in Northern province of Rwanda
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Nominator's rationale:WP:SMALLCAT for just two districts. Wikipedia does not currently have any scheme of subdividing
Category:Districts of Rwanda by individual province, and even if that were desirable this would not be the category's correct name anyway.
Bearcat (
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Delete as superfluous.
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Category:Latton, Essex
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Nominator's rationale:WP:SMALLCAT for a former small community which is now just an area within a larger (but still relatively) small town rather than its own thing. There are just two articles here, but there would have to be a lot more than just two articles to file here before a dedicated category was justified.
Bearcat (
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likewise with the parish, it has an 800 year history, that I am slowly cataloging.
You don't get to create a small underpopulated category first and then claim you're going to create content to populate it later. That's not how this works: you create the content first, and then you can come back and create a category to hold the content after the content already exists.
Bearcat (
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Again, didn't no that, nor does it clearly mention that it is against the rules. I didn't think it would let me do something that is wrong. it allowed me, so I went with it.
DRS311 (
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Delete per
WP:SMALLCAT without objection to recreate the category when there are a handful more articles.
Marcocapelle (
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Merge to Harlow. I see no reason in principle why there should not be an article on
Latton, Harlow (which currently redirects to Harlow), just as there is for
Old Harlow and
Great Parndon, other parishes incorporated into the New Town, but there is not. Even if there was, it does not mean that there should be a category.
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Category:Church of St Mary the Virgin, Harlow
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Nominator's rationale:Eponymous category for a smalltown church without the volume of spinoff content needed to justify an eponymous category. All that's here is the head article, one biography of one person who was once rector of it (but that's not what he's primarily notable for, and thus including him is the religious equivalent of a
WP:PERFCAT), and one photograph, which is not sufficient to render a smalltown church as being in need of its own dedicated category.
Bearcat (
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it was to help catalog all the photos I have of the
one photograph ??? I have unload 100s
DRS311 (
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I still have a lot more to load.
DRS311 (
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Roger Altham, is attached to the church, and i have a lot more people to add to the cat.
The Altham, The Arkwright, The Burgoyne and the Lushington etc etc.
DRS311 (
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We do not mix articles with photographs in articlespace categories. There may be an "images of X" category for only the photographs with no articles, or an "X" category for only articles with no photographs, but there cannot be a mix of both articles and photographs in the same category. And it doesn't matter how many photos you've uploaded, either — it matters how many photos you've actually filed in the category, and there's only one photograph filed in the category. And also, furthermore, we do not upload duplicate copies to Wikipedia of photos that you've already uploaded as CC to Commons — we just directly use the Commons copy itself.
Bearcat (
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I didn't know that sorry, it does not say not to mix articles and photographs. my apologies. they should make that clearer, thank you.
DRS311 (
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Also didn't no about the duplicates, thought they were separate website.
DRS311 (
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"Commons" is the name. It is a common centrally located place for all the languages. William Allen Simpson (
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Delete -- Smallcat. Do not think there is anything to merge.
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Nominator's rationale:Eponymous category for a small community (pop. 3K) without sufficient content to justify an eponymous category. As always, every place that exists does not automatically get one of these as a matter of course -- it's warranted if there are a lot of things to file in it, but not if there are only one or two. And for added bonus,
Cutchogue, New York isn't even its own standalone town anyway -- it's merely a community within the town of
Southold, which already has its own, much better populated
Category:Southold, New York that these two articles can be filed in without needing a special layer of Cutchogue categorization.
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Category:Residents of Lagos
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Nominator's rationale: Wikipedia does not do "residents of X" as a separate category tree from "people from X". The people-from tree is not applied solely on the basis of birthplace alone, such that a person who lived in Lagos somehow couldn't be categorized as "people from Lagos" if he or she wasn't actually born there -- they're applied solely on the basis of "lived in Lagos for long enough to have that be relevant to mention in their article at all, regardless of whether they were born there or not", meaning that there's no category-worthy distinction between "people from" and "residents of" at all.
Bearcat (
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DeleteWP:OVERLAPCAT and
WP:COP-PLACE. Assume any not in "People from" do not qualify there. We don't categorize by place of birth. (Only checked the first two of Fayenatic's list, but neither was in Lagos after the age of 10.) William Allen Simpson (
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Category:Shahidul Zahir
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Nominator's rationale:Eponymous category for a writer, without the volume of spinoff content needed to justify an eponymous category. As always, every writer who has a Wikipedia article does not automatically get one of these as a matter of course -- it's done for writers who have a lot of related content to categorize outside of the established "Works by..." scheme that already exists (e.g.
Category:William Shakespeare), but is not automatically created just to hold "Works by + head article". The category formerly included images of his book covers (which as non-free content can't be galleried in categories that mix them with articles) and a dedicated "Shahidul Zahir template" category that existed solely to contain the {{Shahidul Zahir}} navbox (but navboxes don't get their own dedicated "[person the navbox is for] template" categories either, except maybe in the rare case that there are several related but distinct navboxes for different aspects of the person's notability that need to be grouped together). So those have been removed as inappropriate entries, but that means all that's left is "Works by + head article", which isn't enough.
Bearcat (
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Delete, standard practice at CfD.
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Support as an improvement, even though it includes a few by island group as opposed to single islands. –
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Category:Music videos directed by La La Land
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Delete —
WP:SMALLCAT. No
WP:V for
WP:N. There is no article for
La La Land (director). Moreover, we don't categorize every film director, nor directors of advertising commercials. We don't need categories for mere directors of music videos (originally commercials). There are thousands of music videos compared to feature films, so it is
WP:NONDEFINING. People who are notable for other things directing music videos is also
WP:NONDEFINING. William Allen Simpson (
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Delete per William Allen Simpson. Having a music video isn't a defining aspect of these songs, so it really doesn't matter who directed them. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 04:56, 10 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete. One is unreferenced, the other three are cited only to visible credits on YouTube videos. –
FayenaticLondon 23:08, 13 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete, I agree with William Allen Simpson.
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Category:Sportspeople of Asian descent
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Nominator's rationale: recent proliferation of tiny categories with unusual and irrelevant hierarchical organization.
Wikipedia:Category naming does not provide for by region encapsulating by country.
Summary: Trivial intersection between occupation and ancestors' nationality.These are not harmless as these "regional" subcategories are also a proxy for race, and are understood that way. Continuing removals after categories were emptied by previous discussions.
Delete per the precedent of previous discussions. Regional/continental intersections at that level are a bad idea, and likely to be used only as a privacy for race.
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Delete, trivial intersection between occupation and ancestors' nationality.
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Category:Sportspeople of North American descent
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Nominator's rationale: recent proliferation of tiny categories with unusual and irrelevant hierarchical organization.
Wikipedia:Category naming does not provide for by region encapsulating by country. This parent shim has only 2 children, soon to be 1 child.
Summary: There's no rhyme nor reason for this convoluted tree, entangled with others, very few articles. Continuing removals after categories were emptied by previous discussions.
Delete, trivial intersection between occupation and ancestors' nationality.
Marcocapelle (
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Delete per the precedent of previous discussions. Regional/continental intersections at that level are a bad idea, and likely to be used only as a privacy for race.
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Category:Albums produced by Anderson Paak
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Nominator's rationale: A category for this record producer already exists, under his correctly stylized stage name.
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Category:Albums produced by Anderson Paak
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Nominator's rationale: Name of category doesn't match name on main article. That is, the category was created without the "." present in his stage name.
GiovanniSidwell (
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Nvm, looks like the target category does exist and this new one was created erroneously, will nominate for merge instead.
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