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Category:Video games containing battle passes

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:27, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:NONDEF, games are unlikely to be defined by their inclusion of a battle pass. That is an incidental aspect of the game's design. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 23:54, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Battle passes are so prevalent now that they are rarely mentioned in prose. Anarchyte ( talk) 09:16, 26 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete as the category's creator. They were still notable for their inclusion in 2018 but are now commonplace. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 17:16, 26 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete
    William Allen Simpson ( talk) 03:57, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Video games containing loot boxes

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:26, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:NONDEF. We already have Category:Gacha games and anything that falls outside that category is unlikely to be defined by their inclusion of lootboxes. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 23:53, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians who follow Meher Baba

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:26, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:UCFD/I#Individual person or people. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:29, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians who follow Gohar Shahi

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:26, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:UCFD/I#Individual person or people. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:29, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
This is populated by the line | usercategory = <includeonly>Wikipedians who follow Gohar Shahi</includeonly> in User:UBX/Gohar Shahi, which can just be removed. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:32, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians who convert reference tags

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:26, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Obsolete for over a decade. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:29, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians who are Lions

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Wikipedian members of Lions Clubs International. (non-admin closure) William Allen Simpson ( talk) 03:40, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Rename to something that doesn't appear to be stating an obviously false biological claim (although I subconsciously wish this were something like Category:Feline Wikipedians/ Category:Wikipedians that are cats, both of which have been deleted several times). * Pppery * it has begun... 23:29, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
Agree it will be much more specific. Old Beeg .. warble·· 00:26, 26 April 2023 (UTC) reply
Rename per nom. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 16:15, 27 April 2023 (UTC) reply
Rename per nomination. - 2pou ( talk) 18:23, 2 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians of Irgen Gioro clan

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:26, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Contains only a userbox and no actual users. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:29, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians of Plain Blue Banner

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:25, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Contains only a userbox and no actual users. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:29, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Filipino-Americans honored at the Bantayog ng mga Bayani

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Individuals honored at the Bantayog ng mga Bayani. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:25, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non-notable intersection User:Namiba 23:17, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians lived in East Germany

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:25, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Poorly-named (should be Category:Wikipedians who lived in East Germany), serves no clear purpose given that East Germany hasn't existed for decades. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:10, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per the fact that East Germany stopped existing before Wikipedia started existing. (Funny though. Should we keep this in some humour section?) Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 23:15, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
    This is nothing as far as humourous categories go - see WP:UCFD/I#Nonsense/joke/humour categories * Pppery * it has begun... 23:29, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, very unlikely that it will get further populated. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:47, 26 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Comment -- Despite reunification, former citizens of DDR are likely to have a different perspective from those from FDR. These user categories are there to foster cooperation. Peterkingiron ( talk) 17:57, 30 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians contributing to the F@H project

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Wikipedians who contribute to Folding@home. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:27, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Article is Folding@home; rename per standard user category conventions. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:05, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians who like VisualEditor

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Wikipedians who use VisualEditor. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:27, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Rename to a name that more clearly facilitates collaboration - which is (arguably) facilitated by what software people use (and thus have experience with) but clearly not by mere likes. There was a prior CfD at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 December 18 which merged a redundant category into this one but did not come to a consensus on the name. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:55, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Cendrawasih Muda Manokwari

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:28, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: No article exists on the club, with only one person in the player category, who only was at the club during their youth career. S.A. Julio ( talk) 22:22, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Terrorist incidents in Italy

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The result of the discussion was: merge and delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:28, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT. – Aidan721 ( talk) 16:43, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Support per nom. Honestly this comes as a surprise to me, I would have expected many more articles covering the 1970s and/or 1980s. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:59, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Support per Marcocapelle.
    William Allen Simpson ( talk) 03:33, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Al-Andalus encyclopedias

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:29, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete (but manually move Biblioteca de al-Andalus to Category:Literature of al-Andalus), the redirects redirect to articles in sub Category:Al-Andalus encyclopedists, so this category offers no additional navigational value over its subcategory. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:32, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Post-classical civilizations

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The result of the discussion was: delete. In addition, WP:SALT is recommended here due to the reposted nature of these categories. Concerns about the scope and name of Category:Civilizations should be addressed in a separate CfD. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:31, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:G4: Category:Modern civilizations (created by Maxaxax) was previously deleted in 2010; Category:Medieval civilization (created by Maxaxax) was deleted last November. Maxaxax argued against deletion, and then a few weeks later created Category:Post-classical civilizations, which essentially filled its role (description: Civilizations of post-classical history (c. 500-1500 CE).), exactly the same timespan commonly attributed to Middle Ages, so indirectly also WP:G4.
Secondary reasons: WP:SUBJECTIVECAT WP:ARBITRARYCAT WP:NPOV. Talk:Civilization identifies civilisations as a Template:Controversial topic. Both categories have been created very recently (September/December 2022‎), and have no main articles. Almost none of the articles in these two categories or their subcategories contain articles that have "civilization"/"civilisation" in their titles, and some like Arab world, Hispanophone, Organisation internationale de la Francophonie etc. don't even mention the word at all. The few that are somewhat regularly called a "civilization"/"civilisation", such as Western civilization (redirects to Western culture) and Russian civilization, are both highly controversial (see e.g. Western Civilization bias, redirects to Eurocentrism, and Russian world#Condemnations). It seems to me these categorisations should be used very carefully as noted by Talk:Civilization, if possible only to articles with "civiliz/sation" in the title, and probably restrict Category:Civilizations by time to pre-1500 and perhaps even pre-500 CE examples ( Category:Pre-Columbian civilizations excluded). A few things such as Role of Christianity in civilization (in post-classic subcat Category:Christendom), and in the modern cat Clash of Civilizations, History of Western civilization, Russian civilization, Category:Theorists on Western civilization‎, Category:Global civilization‎, should be manually upmerged/re-parented to Category:Civilizations. Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 13:32, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
Found it, it applies to Modern civilizations: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2010_November_10#Category:Modern_civilizations. Well-spotted. Adding to rationale... Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 14:15, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
Category:Medieval civilization (created by Maxaxax) was deleted last November: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_October_29#Category:Medieval_civilization. Maxaxax argued against deletion, and then a few weeks later created Category:Post-classical civilizations, which essentially filled its role (description: Civilizations of post-classical history (c. 500-1500 CE)., exactly the same timespan commonly attributed to Middle Ages), so indirectly it's also WP:G4. On a related note, "Category:Neolithic_proto-civilizations" (also created by Maxaxax) was deleted as a poorly-defined, unscientific concept last September. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 14:25, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
And so many other categories. Just handle these few, then next week go to the parent Category:Civilizations by time ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) by the same user with this as precedent.
William Allen Simpson ( talk) 14:35, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
Oh wow! I don't think all of these categories are nonsense, but it is rather suspicious that most (but not all) of them were created by the same user. Yes, let's leave the rest for later. Thanks for being so eagle-eyed, I'm glad you spotted all this. Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 14:42, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
I see that there has been a series of seemingly futile attempts from September 2022 to February 2023 to put "Category:Medieval Islamic world" in all sorts of inappropriate "civilizations" categories that then get deleted. It was done by various users, who did not act in unison, and they don't have to have done it in bad faith, but for some reason, there were attempts at framing the "medieval Islamic world" as a "civilization" in the last quarter of 2022 (perhaps something to do with 2022 FIFA World Cup?). It hasn't been very helpful for defining the scope and trees of the cat. Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 16:01, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
Always check the logs. Category:Modern civilizations ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Category:Global civilization ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) was also by the same Maxaxax user, you should add it to the nomination rather than hidden in the rationale.
William Allen Simpson ( talk) 14:20, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
Ah, I hadn't see that yet but as you posted this I discovered a few other things... Do you want me to call out Maxaxax as recreating deleted categories in the rationale itself?
I don't think Category:Global civilization is nonsense per main article Planetary civilization, though we could rename that per WP:C2D and purge it from unrelated content. I would rather keep that separate. Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 14:30, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
I've updated the rationale. WP:G4 is now the primary reason. If I had been more inquisitive, I would have speedied them. Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 14:47, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Selectively merge and delete, too many items do not belong here and with the ones that do belong the categories become too small. Marcocapelle ( talk) 14:53, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
In addition I'd like to raise another type of suggestion, namely to limit Category:Civilizations entirely to a topic category. Per WP:SHAREDNAME we should not categorize just by what happens to be part of the article title, so if we allow a set category with articles with "civilization" in the title we might also allow articles with "world" in the title (e.g. Western world) and it becomes a bit arbitrary where to draw the line. If this is perceived to be a good suggestion then I will nominate Category:Civilizations for renaming to Category:Civilization. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:59, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
Well, at the very least, "civilization" should be in the WP:ALTNAME. We cannot allow a wildgroei of WP:SUBJECTIVECATs and WP:ARBITRARYCATs about a Template:Controversial topic.
The suggestion to have a Category:Civilization (singular) is an interesting one, but perhaps as a parent of Category:Civilizations (plural) for those ancient civilisations that are so titled or altnamed? I wouldn't completely write off the plural category tree just yet. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 18:17, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Medieval Islamic world

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 14#Category:Medieval Islamic world

Terrorist incidents in Morocco

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The result of the discussion was: delete and merge. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:37, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: All year cats have 1 article. Full upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT. Still not enough content to keep decade cats. – Aidan721 ( talk) 11:47, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Yes, that's correct. Thank you. 2002, 2011 and 2018 should be merged there. – Aidan721 ( talk) 16:12, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:2018 Winter Olympics ice hockey templates

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:37, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT (in spirit of WP:C2F). No need to merge as the lone template is already in both parents. – Aidan721 ( talk) 11:26, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Black sitcoms navigational boxes

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Sitcom navigational boxes. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:40, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Do we really need this subcategory? It doesn't seem to follow any other tree. -- wooden superman 09:12, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians who use WikiDiscussion Manager

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:40, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: User:Eagle 101/WikiDiscussion Manager appears to have been defunct since circa 2008. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:28, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians interested in Muhajir

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:40, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Redundant single-member user category associated with a disambiguation page in mainspace. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:28, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: Valparaiso

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: Chile. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:41, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Redundant WP:SMALLCAT with only one member. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:09, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: Queen's College, Hong Kong

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:41, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Another secondary school alma mater category. Hopefully this should be the last one. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:03, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Terrorist incidents in Cameroon, Ivory Coast, and Chad

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The result of the discussion was: delete and merge. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:41, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Very small trees that do not have enough content per year or decade. Upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT. – Aidan721 ( talk) 01:41, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Video games containing battle passes

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:27, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:NONDEF, games are unlikely to be defined by their inclusion of a battle pass. That is an incidental aspect of the game's design. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 23:54, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Battle passes are so prevalent now that they are rarely mentioned in prose. Anarchyte ( talk) 09:16, 26 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete as the category's creator. They were still notable for their inclusion in 2018 but are now commonplace. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 17:16, 26 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete
    William Allen Simpson ( talk) 03:57, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Video games containing loot boxes

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:26, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:NONDEF. We already have Category:Gacha games and anything that falls outside that category is unlikely to be defined by their inclusion of lootboxes. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 23:53, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians who follow Meher Baba

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:26, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:UCFD/I#Individual person or people. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:29, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians who follow Gohar Shahi

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:26, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:UCFD/I#Individual person or people. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:29, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
This is populated by the line | usercategory = <includeonly>Wikipedians who follow Gohar Shahi</includeonly> in User:UBX/Gohar Shahi, which can just be removed. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:32, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians who convert reference tags

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:26, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Obsolete for over a decade. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:29, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians who are Lions

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Wikipedian members of Lions Clubs International. (non-admin closure) William Allen Simpson ( talk) 03:40, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Rename to something that doesn't appear to be stating an obviously false biological claim (although I subconsciously wish this were something like Category:Feline Wikipedians/ Category:Wikipedians that are cats, both of which have been deleted several times). * Pppery * it has begun... 23:29, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
Agree it will be much more specific. Old Beeg .. warble·· 00:26, 26 April 2023 (UTC) reply
Rename per nom. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 16:15, 27 April 2023 (UTC) reply
Rename per nomination. - 2pou ( talk) 18:23, 2 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians of Irgen Gioro clan

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:26, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Contains only a userbox and no actual users. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:29, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians of Plain Blue Banner

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:25, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Contains only a userbox and no actual users. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:29, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Filipino-Americans honored at the Bantayog ng mga Bayani

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Individuals honored at the Bantayog ng mga Bayani. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:25, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non-notable intersection User:Namiba 23:17, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians lived in East Germany

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:25, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Poorly-named (should be Category:Wikipedians who lived in East Germany), serves no clear purpose given that East Germany hasn't existed for decades. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:10, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per the fact that East Germany stopped existing before Wikipedia started existing. (Funny though. Should we keep this in some humour section?) Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 23:15, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
    This is nothing as far as humourous categories go - see WP:UCFD/I#Nonsense/joke/humour categories * Pppery * it has begun... 23:29, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, very unlikely that it will get further populated. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:47, 26 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Comment -- Despite reunification, former citizens of DDR are likely to have a different perspective from those from FDR. These user categories are there to foster cooperation. Peterkingiron ( talk) 17:57, 30 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians contributing to the F@H project

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Wikipedians who contribute to Folding@home. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:27, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Article is Folding@home; rename per standard user category conventions. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:05, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians who like VisualEditor

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Wikipedians who use VisualEditor. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:27, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Rename to a name that more clearly facilitates collaboration - which is (arguably) facilitated by what software people use (and thus have experience with) but clearly not by mere likes. There was a prior CfD at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 December 18 which merged a redundant category into this one but did not come to a consensus on the name. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:55, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Cendrawasih Muda Manokwari

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:28, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: No article exists on the club, with only one person in the player category, who only was at the club during their youth career. S.A. Julio ( talk) 22:22, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Terrorist incidents in Italy

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The result of the discussion was: merge and delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:28, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT. – Aidan721 ( talk) 16:43, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Support per nom. Honestly this comes as a surprise to me, I would have expected many more articles covering the 1970s and/or 1980s. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:59, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Support per Marcocapelle.
    William Allen Simpson ( talk) 03:33, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Al-Andalus encyclopedias

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:29, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete (but manually move Biblioteca de al-Andalus to Category:Literature of al-Andalus), the redirects redirect to articles in sub Category:Al-Andalus encyclopedists, so this category offers no additional navigational value over its subcategory. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:32, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Post-classical civilizations

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The result of the discussion was: delete. In addition, WP:SALT is recommended here due to the reposted nature of these categories. Concerns about the scope and name of Category:Civilizations should be addressed in a separate CfD. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:31, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:G4: Category:Modern civilizations (created by Maxaxax) was previously deleted in 2010; Category:Medieval civilization (created by Maxaxax) was deleted last November. Maxaxax argued against deletion, and then a few weeks later created Category:Post-classical civilizations, which essentially filled its role (description: Civilizations of post-classical history (c. 500-1500 CE).), exactly the same timespan commonly attributed to Middle Ages, so indirectly also WP:G4.
Secondary reasons: WP:SUBJECTIVECAT WP:ARBITRARYCAT WP:NPOV. Talk:Civilization identifies civilisations as a Template:Controversial topic. Both categories have been created very recently (September/December 2022‎), and have no main articles. Almost none of the articles in these two categories or their subcategories contain articles that have "civilization"/"civilisation" in their titles, and some like Arab world, Hispanophone, Organisation internationale de la Francophonie etc. don't even mention the word at all. The few that are somewhat regularly called a "civilization"/"civilisation", such as Western civilization (redirects to Western culture) and Russian civilization, are both highly controversial (see e.g. Western Civilization bias, redirects to Eurocentrism, and Russian world#Condemnations). It seems to me these categorisations should be used very carefully as noted by Talk:Civilization, if possible only to articles with "civiliz/sation" in the title, and probably restrict Category:Civilizations by time to pre-1500 and perhaps even pre-500 CE examples ( Category:Pre-Columbian civilizations excluded). A few things such as Role of Christianity in civilization (in post-classic subcat Category:Christendom), and in the modern cat Clash of Civilizations, History of Western civilization, Russian civilization, Category:Theorists on Western civilization‎, Category:Global civilization‎, should be manually upmerged/re-parented to Category:Civilizations. Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 13:32, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
Found it, it applies to Modern civilizations: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2010_November_10#Category:Modern_civilizations. Well-spotted. Adding to rationale... Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 14:15, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
Category:Medieval civilization (created by Maxaxax) was deleted last November: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_October_29#Category:Medieval_civilization. Maxaxax argued against deletion, and then a few weeks later created Category:Post-classical civilizations, which essentially filled its role (description: Civilizations of post-classical history (c. 500-1500 CE)., exactly the same timespan commonly attributed to Middle Ages), so indirectly it's also WP:G4. On a related note, "Category:Neolithic_proto-civilizations" (also created by Maxaxax) was deleted as a poorly-defined, unscientific concept last September. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 14:25, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
And so many other categories. Just handle these few, then next week go to the parent Category:Civilizations by time ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) by the same user with this as precedent.
William Allen Simpson ( talk) 14:35, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
Oh wow! I don't think all of these categories are nonsense, but it is rather suspicious that most (but not all) of them were created by the same user. Yes, let's leave the rest for later. Thanks for being so eagle-eyed, I'm glad you spotted all this. Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 14:42, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
I see that there has been a series of seemingly futile attempts from September 2022 to February 2023 to put "Category:Medieval Islamic world" in all sorts of inappropriate "civilizations" categories that then get deleted. It was done by various users, who did not act in unison, and they don't have to have done it in bad faith, but for some reason, there were attempts at framing the "medieval Islamic world" as a "civilization" in the last quarter of 2022 (perhaps something to do with 2022 FIFA World Cup?). It hasn't been very helpful for defining the scope and trees of the cat. Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 16:01, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
Always check the logs. Category:Modern civilizations ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Category:Global civilization ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) was also by the same Maxaxax user, you should add it to the nomination rather than hidden in the rationale.
William Allen Simpson ( talk) 14:20, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
Ah, I hadn't see that yet but as you posted this I discovered a few other things... Do you want me to call out Maxaxax as recreating deleted categories in the rationale itself?
I don't think Category:Global civilization is nonsense per main article Planetary civilization, though we could rename that per WP:C2D and purge it from unrelated content. I would rather keep that separate. Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 14:30, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
I've updated the rationale. WP:G4 is now the primary reason. If I had been more inquisitive, I would have speedied them. Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 14:47, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Selectively merge and delete, too many items do not belong here and with the ones that do belong the categories become too small. Marcocapelle ( talk) 14:53, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
In addition I'd like to raise another type of suggestion, namely to limit Category:Civilizations entirely to a topic category. Per WP:SHAREDNAME we should not categorize just by what happens to be part of the article title, so if we allow a set category with articles with "civilization" in the title we might also allow articles with "world" in the title (e.g. Western world) and it becomes a bit arbitrary where to draw the line. If this is perceived to be a good suggestion then I will nominate Category:Civilizations for renaming to Category:Civilization. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:59, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
Well, at the very least, "civilization" should be in the WP:ALTNAME. We cannot allow a wildgroei of WP:SUBJECTIVECATs and WP:ARBITRARYCATs about a Template:Controversial topic.
The suggestion to have a Category:Civilization (singular) is an interesting one, but perhaps as a parent of Category:Civilizations (plural) for those ancient civilisations that are so titled or altnamed? I wouldn't completely write off the plural category tree just yet. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 18:17, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Medieval Islamic world

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 14#Category:Medieval Islamic world

Terrorist incidents in Morocco

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The result of the discussion was: delete and merge. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:37, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: All year cats have 1 article. Full upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT. Still not enough content to keep decade cats. – Aidan721 ( talk) 11:47, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Yes, that's correct. Thank you. 2002, 2011 and 2018 should be merged there. – Aidan721 ( talk) 16:12, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:2018 Winter Olympics ice hockey templates

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:37, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT (in spirit of WP:C2F). No need to merge as the lone template is already in both parents. – Aidan721 ( talk) 11:26, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Black sitcoms navigational boxes

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Sitcom navigational boxes. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:40, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Do we really need this subcategory? It doesn't seem to follow any other tree. -- wooden superman 09:12, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians who use WikiDiscussion Manager

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:40, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: User:Eagle 101/WikiDiscussion Manager appears to have been defunct since circa 2008. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:28, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians interested in Muhajir

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:40, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Redundant single-member user category associated with a disambiguation page in mainspace. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:28, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: Valparaiso

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: Chile. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:41, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Redundant WP:SMALLCAT with only one member. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:09, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: Queen's College, Hong Kong

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:41, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Another secondary school alma mater category. Hopefully this should be the last one. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:03, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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Terrorist incidents in Cameroon, Ivory Coast, and Chad

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The result of the discussion was: delete and merge. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:41, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Very small trees that do not have enough content per year or decade. Upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT. – Aidan721 ( talk) 01:41, 25 April 2023 (UTC) reply
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