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Nominator's rationale: I cannot see a distinction between this 2019 creation and the correctly-named category that has existed since 2006.
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Nominator's rationale: Duplicate categories. "Haryana foo" seems to be the standard term used in categories.
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Nominator's rationale: Obvious duplicates. "Brunei foo" seems to be the common term used in categories.
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Delete after all, the only user in the category appears to live in the United States.
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Nominator's rationale: Standard form.
Roman Kingdom doesn't even use "Kingdom of Rome" anywhere on the page, and Google results for the latter just turn up pages titled with the former.
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Comment I will not oppose but personally I think that the current name has greater precision than the target. How is it standard? Do we commonly say the "French Kingdom" or the "Spanish Kingdom"?
Laurel Lodged (
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Rename. I was going to say that it's not that urgent for the category titles to match the main article, and that the present titles look fine. But on further reflection, "Kingdom of Rome" sounds more like a medieval/post-medieval entity (following the downfall of the Roman monarchy, the Romans came to hate the concept of kingship with such a passion that even the emperors carefully avoided any mention of kingship, and the traditional symbols of the Roman kings). So it's probably better to change it.
P Aculeius (
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Comment On a somewhat related note, there is an AfD going on at
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roman–Gallic wars, which I began as a result of looking over more Roman military history due to this CfR. Some of you might want to take a look and participate. Cheers,
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Nominator's rationale:WP:SMALLCAT for just one person. As always, every educational institution does not automatically get one of these the moment there's one alumnus with an article to file in it -- there have to be at least five or six alumni with articles before a category for them is warranted, and it aids navigation not a whit to have minicategories of one. A check of the institution's "what links here", further, reveals nobody else who could be added here to increase the category's population -- there are a fair number of people whose articles describe them as faculty of, or lecturers at, or subjects of sourcing published by, the institution, but not even one other article describes its subject as an alumnus.
Bearcat (
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Nice catch, support that instead.
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Nominator's rationale: This is a highly subjective and oftentimes derogatory description which is unencyclopedic. Neighborhoods change character and this description is deeply presentist.
User:Namiba 12:25, 2 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment: By my count, just 8 out of 38 entries in this category use the word at least once aside from the category name itself. None of those appear to be using it derogatorily, and most are source-based so I'm not sure the subjectivity argument applies without countersourcing. Not quite sure what to do about the presentism issue though, but I'm also not entirely clear if it is an issue. Could it be resolved by renaming the category to more strongly imply temporality? I could see an argument for dumping most of the category as unsourced and keeping seven of those eight (
Echo Park only uses the term in a description of a song, not the neighborhood itself).
QuietHere (
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Went ahead and did the purge myself. The cat is now down to eight entries (I guess I miscounted above) which all explicitly call the neighborhoods hipster in prose. I would be willing to support a rename if it's seen as necessary, but I'm not convinced just yet that this needs deleting.
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Delete, subjective and hard to define.
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Comment Category has been emptied by nominator. LizRead!Talk! 18:29, 3 April 2023 (UTC)reply
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Oppose SMALLCAT says ...unless such categories are part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme, such as subdividing songs in Category:Songs by artist or flags in Category:Flags by country.Lokys dar Vienas (
talk) 19:42, 13 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge, it is a very thin sub-categorization scheme with only 17 country subcats and several others may be merged too.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 22:24, 13 March 2023 (UTC)reply
withdrawn Oppose. There are too many well populated by nationality. Instead, I'll try to assign all the
Category:Homeopaths to the proper subcategory. Done William Allen Simpson (
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
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LaundryPizza03 (
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Oppose as part of an accepted sub-categorisation scheme.--
User:Namiba 17:40, 2 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge for Now One editor creating a bunch of 1-article subcategories on two days in December 2017 is not part of "a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme". (No objection to recreation if they ever get to 5+ articles though.) -
RevelationDirect (
talk) 00:52, 3 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Exactly, there are only four siblings with 5 articles or more.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 07:05, 3 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge as nominated. After dispersing, it is now clear that very few people are actually defined as homeopaths. Merge all the smallcat, and eventually upmerge the few remaining
Category:Homeopaths by nationality subcategories per Oculi, RevelationDirect, and Marcocapelle. William Allen Simpson (
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Nominator's rationale: This is the only year-level category for works of fiction set in the 22nd century or later, and it contains only Alien: Covenant. –
LaundryPizza03 (
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Support Far too overspecific and arbitrary a year.
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Nominator's rationale: I cannot see a distinction between this 2019 creation and the correctly-named category that has existed since 2006.
* Pppery *it has begun... 17:52, 2 April 2023 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale: Duplicate categories. "Haryana foo" seems to be the standard term used in categories.
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Nominator's rationale: Obvious duplicates. "Brunei foo" seems to be the common term used in categories.
* Pppery *it has begun... 17:36, 2 April 2023 (UTC)reply
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Delete after all, the only user in the category appears to live in the United States.
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Nominator's rationale: Standard form.
Roman Kingdom doesn't even use "Kingdom of Rome" anywhere on the page, and Google results for the latter just turn up pages titled with the former.
QuietHere (
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Comment I will not oppose but personally I think that the current name has greater precision than the target. How is it standard? Do we commonly say the "French Kingdom" or the "Spanish Kingdom"?
Laurel Lodged (
talk) 16:33, 2 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Rename. I was going to say that it's not that urgent for the category titles to match the main article, and that the present titles look fine. But on further reflection, "Kingdom of Rome" sounds more like a medieval/post-medieval entity (following the downfall of the Roman monarchy, the Romans came to hate the concept of kingship with such a passion that even the emperors carefully avoided any mention of kingship, and the traditional symbols of the Roman kings). So it's probably better to change it.
P Aculeius (
talk) 11:05, 3 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment On a somewhat related note, there is an AfD going on at
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roman–Gallic wars, which I began as a result of looking over more Roman military history due to this CfR. Some of you might want to take a look and participate. Cheers,
Nederlandse Leeuw (
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Nominator's rationale:WP:SMALLCAT for just one person. As always, every educational institution does not automatically get one of these the moment there's one alumnus with an article to file in it -- there have to be at least five or six alumni with articles before a category for them is warranted, and it aids navigation not a whit to have minicategories of one. A check of the institution's "what links here", further, reveals nobody else who could be added here to increase the category's population -- there are a fair number of people whose articles describe them as faculty of, or lecturers at, or subjects of sourcing published by, the institution, but not even one other article describes its subject as an alumnus.
Bearcat (
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Nice catch, support that instead.
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Nominator's rationale: This is a highly subjective and oftentimes derogatory description which is unencyclopedic. Neighborhoods change character and this description is deeply presentist.
User:Namiba 12:25, 2 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment: By my count, just 8 out of 38 entries in this category use the word at least once aside from the category name itself. None of those appear to be using it derogatorily, and most are source-based so I'm not sure the subjectivity argument applies without countersourcing. Not quite sure what to do about the presentism issue though, but I'm also not entirely clear if it is an issue. Could it be resolved by renaming the category to more strongly imply temporality? I could see an argument for dumping most of the category as unsourced and keeping seven of those eight (
Echo Park only uses the term in a description of a song, not the neighborhood itself).
QuietHere (
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Went ahead and did the purge myself. The cat is now down to eight entries (I guess I miscounted above) which all explicitly call the neighborhoods hipster in prose. I would be willing to support a rename if it's seen as necessary, but I'm not convinced just yet that this needs deleting.
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Delete, subjective and hard to define.
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Comment Category has been emptied by nominator. LizRead!Talk! 18:29, 3 April 2023 (UTC)reply
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Oppose SMALLCAT says ...unless such categories are part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme, such as subdividing songs in Category:Songs by artist or flags in Category:Flags by country.Lokys dar Vienas (
talk) 19:42, 13 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge, it is a very thin sub-categorization scheme with only 17 country subcats and several others may be merged too.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 22:24, 13 March 2023 (UTC)reply
withdrawn Oppose. There are too many well populated by nationality. Instead, I'll try to assign all the
Category:Homeopaths to the proper subcategory. Done William Allen Simpson (
talk) 09:30, 14 March 2023 (UTC)reply
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Qwerfjkltalk 17:24, 21 March 2023 (UTC)reply
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LaundryPizza03 (
dc̄) 09:15, 2 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Oppose as part of an accepted sub-categorisation scheme.--
User:Namiba 17:40, 2 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge for Now One editor creating a bunch of 1-article subcategories on two days in December 2017 is not part of "a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme". (No objection to recreation if they ever get to 5+ articles though.) -
RevelationDirect (
talk) 00:52, 3 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Exactly, there are only four siblings with 5 articles or more.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 07:05, 3 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge as nominated. After dispersing, it is now clear that very few people are actually defined as homeopaths. Merge all the smallcat, and eventually upmerge the few remaining
Category:Homeopaths by nationality subcategories per Oculi, RevelationDirect, and Marcocapelle. William Allen Simpson (
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Nominator's rationale: This is the only year-level category for works of fiction set in the 22nd century or later, and it contains only Alien: Covenant. –
LaundryPizza03 (
dc̄) 08:30, 2 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Support Far too overspecific and arbitrary a year.
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