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Support, in practice it is a very political topic.
Marcocapelle (
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Support as a clear and neutral category name.
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Category:Mexicali Aquilas players
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The result of the discussion was:rename. –
FayenaticLondon 13:24, 21 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: This team was known as the 'Aguilas,' which translates to 'Eagles.' I'm not sure where "Aquilas" is coming from. There's already a
Category:Águilas de Mexicali players for players with the same-named team that was formed in 1970 so I don't know if it should be merged or what.
Dennis C. Abrams (
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Rename as proposed by nom. There's a bit of evidence pointing to
Jorge Orta having played with the Águilas before he was on the White Sox.
TartarTorte 00:14, 30 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Then this evidence should be included in the article and sourced. There is not even an article for
Mexicali Aquilas (or
Mexicali Aguilas).
Oculi (
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Purge (hence delete) per Oculi.
Marcocapelle (
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✗plicit 13:10, 6 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Purge (hence delete) to clarify my position.
Oculi (
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Qwerfjkltalk 17:27, 14 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Note:
Denniscabrams has stated in an edit summary that
Jorge Orta played for this team (and others), but neither he nor
TartarTorte have yet provided citations for this. –
FayenaticLondon 20:47, 14 September 2022 (UTC)reply
This has nothing to do with this discussion but I'll humor you anyway,
Fayenatic. The first, most obvious place to look is his Baseball-Reference page which is linked at the bottom of his article, as it is for all professional baseball players. I'm surprised that you have taken such a keen interest in this article without even being familiar with Baseball-Reference. Beyond that, there are plenty of other sources like
this book. You can also do a cursory
Newspapers.com search and find several dozen results. --
Dennis C. Abrams (
talk) 21:16, 14 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Thank you,
Denniscabrams. I had attempted to search those reference pages for Mexicali, but had not realised that on the the Baseball Reference page it would be necessary to first click on the tab for minor/Mexican leagues. This does confirm that Orta played for them in 1971, and that the team name is Aguilas not Aquilas.
[1] also confirms that
Rudy Hernández (shortstop) played for them too (not Áquilas de Mexicali, as categorised by
MusiCitizen). That gives two verified member articles for the category. –
FayenaticLondon 21:49, 14 September 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Denniscabrams: I still agree with Oculi that a category should not be added to an article without explicitly mentioning - and preferably elaborating on - the fact in the body text of the article. Categories are summaries of articles, they should not provide information on their own.
Marcocapelle (
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The result of the discussion was:speedy keep Ah, thank you for the explanation, now I got it.
Privybst (
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Support -- Death care is a horrid Americanism.
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Category:1982 in basque peola
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The result of the discussion was:delete. –
FayenaticLondon 13:20, 21 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment This category has been emptied. LizRead!Talk! 01:05, 15 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Approve I am quite happy for my mis-splling to be corrected
Hugo999 (
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Speedy delete as uncontroversial maintenance.
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Category:Fictional avatars
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The result of the discussion was:keep. –
FayenaticLondon 13:20, 21 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Members of this category are mostly
WP:OR and are pretty unlikely to have been actually classified as avatars, save for a few select characters like Aang. I suggest it should be merged into deities, while removing the characters who are not explicitly deities in their fictional works.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 07:09, 14 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Oppose this way, many articles in this category are not about fictional deities. But it does make sense to move a number of subcategories to
Category:Fictional deities.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 10:59, 14 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Oppose No idea who Aang is. Every single
Doctor Fate (male or female) is an avatar of the Mesopotamian god
Nabu,
Jean Grey (and several of her female relatives) are avatars of a deified
phoenix,
Juggernaut is an avatar of the fictional god Cyttorak,
Moondragon is an avatar of the evil deity Dragon of the Moon. These people are mortal incarnations of various deities, and
avatars are material appearance or incarnations of deities and spirits.
Dimadick (
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Support, in practice it is a very political topic.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 20:10, 15 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Support as a clear and neutral category name.
Jontesta (
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Category:Mexicali Aquilas players
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The result of the discussion was:rename. –
FayenaticLondon 13:24, 21 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: This team was known as the 'Aguilas,' which translates to 'Eagles.' I'm not sure where "Aquilas" is coming from. There's already a
Category:Águilas de Mexicali players for players with the same-named team that was formed in 1970 so I don't know if it should be merged or what.
Dennis C. Abrams (
talk) 03:56, 29 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Rename as proposed by nom. There's a bit of evidence pointing to
Jorge Orta having played with the Águilas before he was on the White Sox.
TartarTorte 00:14, 30 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Then this evidence should be included in the article and sourced. There is not even an article for
Mexicali Aquilas (or
Mexicali Aguilas).
Oculi (
talk) 10:34, 30 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Purge (hence delete) per Oculi.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 06:06, 30 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
✗plicit 13:10, 6 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Purge (hence delete) to clarify my position.
Oculi (
talk) 14:41, 6 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Qwerfjkltalk 17:27, 14 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Note:
Denniscabrams has stated in an edit summary that
Jorge Orta played for this team (and others), but neither he nor
TartarTorte have yet provided citations for this. –
FayenaticLondon 20:47, 14 September 2022 (UTC)reply
This has nothing to do with this discussion but I'll humor you anyway,
Fayenatic. The first, most obvious place to look is his Baseball-Reference page which is linked at the bottom of his article, as it is for all professional baseball players. I'm surprised that you have taken such a keen interest in this article without even being familiar with Baseball-Reference. Beyond that, there are plenty of other sources like
this book. You can also do a cursory
Newspapers.com search and find several dozen results. --
Dennis C. Abrams (
talk) 21:16, 14 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Thank you,
Denniscabrams. I had attempted to search those reference pages for Mexicali, but had not realised that on the the Baseball Reference page it would be necessary to first click on the tab for minor/Mexican leagues. This does confirm that Orta played for them in 1971, and that the team name is Aguilas not Aquilas.
[1] also confirms that
Rudy Hernández (shortstop) played for them too (not Áquilas de Mexicali, as categorised by
MusiCitizen). That gives two verified member articles for the category. –
FayenaticLondon 21:49, 14 September 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Denniscabrams: I still agree with Oculi that a category should not be added to an article without explicitly mentioning - and preferably elaborating on - the fact in the body text of the article. Categories are summaries of articles, they should not provide information on their own.
Marcocapelle (
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The result of the discussion was:speedy keep Ah, thank you for the explanation, now I got it.
Privybst (
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Support -- Death care is a horrid Americanism.
Peterkingiron (
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Category:1982 in basque peola
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The result of the discussion was:delete. –
FayenaticLondon 13:20, 21 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment This category has been emptied. LizRead!Talk! 01:05, 15 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Approve I am quite happy for my mis-splling to be corrected
Hugo999 (
talk) 02:56, 16 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Speedy delete as uncontroversial maintenance.
Pichpich (
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The result of the discussion was:keep. –
FayenaticLondon 13:20, 21 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Members of this category are mostly
WP:OR and are pretty unlikely to have been actually classified as avatars, save for a few select characters like Aang. I suggest it should be merged into deities, while removing the characters who are not explicitly deities in their fictional works.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 07:09, 14 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Oppose this way, many articles in this category are not about fictional deities. But it does make sense to move a number of subcategories to
Category:Fictional deities.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 10:59, 14 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Oppose No idea who Aang is. Every single
Doctor Fate (male or female) is an avatar of the Mesopotamian god
Nabu,
Jean Grey (and several of her female relatives) are avatars of a deified
phoenix,
Juggernaut is an avatar of the fictional god Cyttorak,
Moondragon is an avatar of the evil deity Dragon of the Moon. These people are mortal incarnations of various deities, and
avatars are material appearance or incarnations of deities and spirits.
Dimadick (
talk) 13:40, 15 September 2022 (UTC)reply
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