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Support in principle but it would be recommendable if someone would check every article manually, to see if the film is really "about" this topic.
Marcocapelle (
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18:18, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Golden Gate Girl is about an opera singer's mistress, and then the couple's daughter.
Hu-Du-Men has no plot summary.
Hungry Ghost Ritual is about the strained relationship between the leader of an opera troupe and his stepson.
The Mad Phoenix is the biography of a Cantonese opera playwright, but we lack an article on the real man.
The Prodigal Son (1981 film) has a subplot about the
sexual harassment of an opera singer, and how the singer beats up his abuser.
The Spooky Bunch has an opera troupe hired by a wealthy man, but their patron is mostly motivated in arranging a marriage between one of their actresses and his nephew (and presumed heir).
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04:58, 6 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Support, with the same caveat as Marcocapelle. If the film merely has a scene with this, it should be in the about category, this needs to be checked on an item by item basis. There is no justification for categories for items merely appearing in the film, that is not being the main subject, as a brief appearance is not defining.--
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Support in principle but it would be recommendable if someone would check every article manually, to see if the film is really "about" this topic.
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18:18, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Support, with the same caveat as Marcocapelle. If the film merely has a scene with this, it should be in the about category, this needs to be checked on an item by item basis. There is no justification for categories for items merely appearing in the film, that is not being the main subject, as a brief appearance is not defining.--
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Support in principle but it would be recommendable if someone would check every article manually, to see if the film is really "about" this topic.
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18:19, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Support, with the same caveat as Marcocapelle. If the film merely has a scene with this, it should be in the about category, this needs to be checked on an item by item basis. There is no justification for categories for items merely appearing in the film, that is not being the main subject, as a brief appearance is not defining.--
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Support in principle but it would be recommendable if someone would check every article manually, to see if the film is really "about" this topic.
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18:22, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Support, with the same caveat as Marcocapelle. If the film merely has a scene with this, it should be in the about category, this needs to be checked on an item by item basis. There is no justification for categories for items merely appearing in the film, that is not being the main subject, as a brief appearance is not defining.--
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Support in principle but it would be recommendable if someone would check every article manually, to see if the film is really "about" this topic.
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18:23, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Support, with the same caveat as Marcocapelle. If the film merely has a scene with this, it should be in the about category, this needs to be checked on an item by item basis. There is no justification for categories for items merely appearing in the film, that is not being the main subject, as a brief appearance is not defining.--
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Support, with the same caveat as categories above. If the film merely has a scene with this, it should be in the about category, this needs to be checked on an item by item basis. There is no justification for categories for items merely appearing in the film, that is not being the main subject, as a brief appearance is not defining.--
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Nominator's rationale: Not a genre, and not defining for most of these films. If kept should be moved to "Films about mother-daughter relationships".
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07:19, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Rename as suggested by nom, but it would be recommendable if someone would check every article manually, to see if the film is really "about" this topic.
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Nominator's rationale: Not a genre, and not defining for most of the films here. If kept should be moved to "Films about father-daughter relationships".
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07:18, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Rename as suggested by nom, but it would be recommendable if someone would check every article manually, to see if the film is really "about" this topic.
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Nominator's rationale: Not a genre and not a defining topic of most of these films. If kept should be moved to "Films about father-son relationships".
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07:16, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Rename as suggested by nom, but it would be recommendable if someone would check every article manually, to see if the film is really "about" this topic.
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18:27, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment: I support moving films to "Films about father-and-son relationships", and the same for other categories like mothers-and-sons, father-and-daughters, etc.
Marcocapelle Regarding checking each film listed to see if it fits under a particular category, I would say all the films listed appear to have a similar issue to the Breakdancing in film discussion above; i.e. there is some disagreement about whether certain films qualify for a particular category. For instance, a while back I added the film Legends of the Fall to the category of “Father and son films,” as its story concerns three brothers and their father, a plot line which is clearly stated in the article itself. However, another user removed my edit and claimed it was original research (see November 2021 on my talk page). Just thought I’d point out how users don’t always agree on which films fall under what category, even if plot details are stated in the article.
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Nominator's rationale: Not a genre, not defining for pretty much any of these films. If kept should be moved to "Films about mother-son relationships".
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07:12, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Rename as suggested by nom, but it would be recommendable if someone would check every article manually, to see if the film is really "about" this topic.
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18:27, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
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Support in principle but it would be recommendable if someone would check every article manually, to see if the film is really "about" this topic.
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18:18, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Golden Gate Girl is about an opera singer's mistress, and then the couple's daughter.
Hu-Du-Men has no plot summary.
Hungry Ghost Ritual is about the strained relationship between the leader of an opera troupe and his stepson.
The Mad Phoenix is the biography of a Cantonese opera playwright, but we lack an article on the real man.
The Prodigal Son (1981 film) has a subplot about the
sexual harassment of an opera singer, and how the singer beats up his abuser.
The Spooky Bunch has an opera troupe hired by a wealthy man, but their patron is mostly motivated in arranging a marriage between one of their actresses and his nephew (and presumed heir).
Dimadick (
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04:58, 6 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Support, with the same caveat as Marcocapelle. If the film merely has a scene with this, it should be in the about category, this needs to be checked on an item by item basis. There is no justification for categories for items merely appearing in the film, that is not being the main subject, as a brief appearance is not defining.--
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10:23, 31 May 2022 (UTC)reply
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Support in principle but it would be recommendable if someone would check every article manually, to see if the film is really "about" this topic.
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18:18, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Support, with the same caveat as Marcocapelle. If the film merely has a scene with this, it should be in the about category, this needs to be checked on an item by item basis. There is no justification for categories for items merely appearing in the film, that is not being the main subject, as a brief appearance is not defining.--
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Support in principle but it would be recommendable if someone would check every article manually, to see if the film is really "about" this topic.
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18:19, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Support, with the same caveat as Marcocapelle. If the film merely has a scene with this, it should be in the about category, this needs to be checked on an item by item basis. There is no justification for categories for items merely appearing in the film, that is not being the main subject, as a brief appearance is not defining.--
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Support in principle but it would be recommendable if someone would check every article manually, to see if the film is really "about" this topic.
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18:22, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Support, with the same caveat as Marcocapelle. If the film merely has a scene with this, it should be in the about category, this needs to be checked on an item by item basis. There is no justification for categories for items merely appearing in the film, that is not being the main subject, as a brief appearance is not defining.--
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Support in principle but it would be recommendable if someone would check every article manually, to see if the film is really "about" this topic.
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18:23, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Support, with the same caveat as Marcocapelle. If the film merely has a scene with this, it should be in the about category, this needs to be checked on an item by item basis. There is no justification for categories for items merely appearing in the film, that is not being the main subject, as a brief appearance is not defining.--
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Support, with the same caveat as categories above. If the film merely has a scene with this, it should be in the about category, this needs to be checked on an item by item basis. There is no justification for categories for items merely appearing in the film, that is not being the main subject, as a brief appearance is not defining.--
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Nominator's rationale: Not a genre, and not defining for most of these films. If kept should be moved to "Films about mother-daughter relationships".
★Trekker (
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07:19, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Rename as suggested by nom, but it would be recommendable if someone would check every article manually, to see if the film is really "about" this topic.
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18:26, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale: Not a genre, and not defining for most of the films here. If kept should be moved to "Films about father-daughter relationships".
★Trekker (
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07:18, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Rename as suggested by nom, but it would be recommendable if someone would check every article manually, to see if the film is really "about" this topic.
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18:26, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale: Not a genre and not a defining topic of most of these films. If kept should be moved to "Films about father-son relationships".
★Trekker (
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07:16, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Rename as suggested by nom, but it would be recommendable if someone would check every article manually, to see if the film is really "about" this topic.
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18:27, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment: I support moving films to "Films about father-and-son relationships", and the same for other categories like mothers-and-sons, father-and-daughters, etc.
Marcocapelle Regarding checking each film listed to see if it fits under a particular category, I would say all the films listed appear to have a similar issue to the Breakdancing in film discussion above; i.e. there is some disagreement about whether certain films qualify for a particular category. For instance, a while back I added the film Legends of the Fall to the category of “Father and son films,” as its story concerns three brothers and their father, a plot line which is clearly stated in the article itself. However, another user removed my edit and claimed it was original research (see November 2021 on my talk page). Just thought I’d point out how users don’t always agree on which films fall under what category, even if plot details are stated in the article.
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Nominator's rationale: Not a genre, not defining for pretty much any of these films. If kept should be moved to "Films about mother-son relationships".
★Trekker (
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07:12, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Rename as suggested by nom, but it would be recommendable if someone would check every article manually, to see if the film is really "about" this topic.
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18:27, 30 May 2022 (UTC)reply
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