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The result of the discussion was:delete. –
FayenaticLondon 10:32, 3 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Doesn't strike me as satisfying
WP:DEFCAT.
DonIago (
talk) 21:36, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete as non-defining. This surely falls under
WP:NONDEF's guidance that "if the characteristic would not be appropriate to mention in the lead portion of an article, it is probably not defining": the fact that Bach or Hemingway or Edward VIII or whoever smoked a pipe is not encyclopedic or relevant to their notability.
Extraordinary Writ (
talk) 21:41, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment: The category has been populated with entries from the main article (
Pipe smoking#Notable pipe smokers). The comment on the top of the section specifically mentions "Please include here only persons specifically notorious for their pipe smoking, not just each and every pipe smoker." --
NoonIcarus (
talk) 21:43, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
For the record, at least one of the articles to which you added this category (
Bing Crosby) had no mention of the subject being a pipe smoker, which would also be a violation of
WP:CATVERIFY.
DonIago (
talk) 21:53, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete clearly a non-defining characteristic. –
Muboshgu (
talk) 21:46, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete as nondefining.
Deor (
talk) 21:54, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
I noticed this being added to Bertrand Russell, thought it ought to be deleted, found that others reached the same conclusion ... which was nice ~
cygnis insignis 22:00, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete - not a defining characteristic.
Spleodrach (
talk) 22:11, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete: clearly a non-defining characteristic and should be deleted.
Drdpw (
talk) 22:19, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete - could be added as a glaring example of inappropriate categories.
Oculi (
talk) 23:12, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete as making a list based on a non-notable activity: while there are undoubtedly some exceptional cases,
Pipe smoking#Notable pipe smokers lacks citations, and I've removed
Charles Darwin as his very well documented life lacks any clear mentions of him smoking a pipe: in his first year at Cambridge uni, a fellow student drew a mock coat of arms for the two of them with pipes and wine barrels, but apparently [half of] the joke was that he didn't drink wine very much. Clearly not a notable part of his life. . .
dave souza,
talk 12:55, 15 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete, this is certainly not defining for almost anyone not
Sherlock Holmes.--
Mvqr (
talk) 11:08, 16 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete or listify (I think there is a list already). This is non-defining, it’s just like a category of people who drink alcohol. A bit more specific, but still. Not category-worthy. Velociraptor888 00:01, 23 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete, as the creator of the category, per
WP:NONDEF as stated in previous comments and speedy close per
WP:SNOW. --
NoonIcarus (
talk) 12:54, 23 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Well 11 days after the opening it was too late for a speedy close. Even more so now that it is 14 days after the opening. We do seem to have an issue of CfD discussions not being closed much of late.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 17:40, 26 January 2022 (UTC)reply
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Category:Education boards in Pakistan
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The result of the discussion was:reverse merge. –
FayenaticLondon 10:35, 3 March 2022 (UTC)reply
I think reverse merge would be better.
Peterkingiron (
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Category:Universities and colleges outside Europe following the European Credit Transfer System
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Nominator's rationale:delete, small category and not a defining characteristic.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 08:22, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete -- A number of European universities have branch in the middle east or south or east Asia. This may be the basis for a category, but this one is too specific.
Peterkingiron (
talk) 20:48, 22 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete This is the type of thing that will change from time to time and is not defining to the institution.
John Pack Lambert (
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Category:Independence movements in Antigua and Barbuda
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The result of the discussion was:delete. –
FayenaticLondon 10:32, 3 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Doesn't strike me as satisfying
WP:DEFCAT.
DonIago (
talk) 21:36, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete as non-defining. This surely falls under
WP:NONDEF's guidance that "if the characteristic would not be appropriate to mention in the lead portion of an article, it is probably not defining": the fact that Bach or Hemingway or Edward VIII or whoever smoked a pipe is not encyclopedic or relevant to their notability.
Extraordinary Writ (
talk) 21:41, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment: The category has been populated with entries from the main article (
Pipe smoking#Notable pipe smokers). The comment on the top of the section specifically mentions "Please include here only persons specifically notorious for their pipe smoking, not just each and every pipe smoker." --
NoonIcarus (
talk) 21:43, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
For the record, at least one of the articles to which you added this category (
Bing Crosby) had no mention of the subject being a pipe smoker, which would also be a violation of
WP:CATVERIFY.
DonIago (
talk) 21:53, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete clearly a non-defining characteristic. –
Muboshgu (
talk) 21:46, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete as nondefining.
Deor (
talk) 21:54, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
I noticed this being added to Bertrand Russell, thought it ought to be deleted, found that others reached the same conclusion ... which was nice ~
cygnis insignis 22:00, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete - not a defining characteristic.
Spleodrach (
talk) 22:11, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete: clearly a non-defining characteristic and should be deleted.
Drdpw (
talk) 22:19, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete - could be added as a glaring example of inappropriate categories.
Oculi (
talk) 23:12, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete as making a list based on a non-notable activity: while there are undoubtedly some exceptional cases,
Pipe smoking#Notable pipe smokers lacks citations, and I've removed
Charles Darwin as his very well documented life lacks any clear mentions of him smoking a pipe: in his first year at Cambridge uni, a fellow student drew a mock coat of arms for the two of them with pipes and wine barrels, but apparently [half of] the joke was that he didn't drink wine very much. Clearly not a notable part of his life. . .
dave souza,
talk 12:55, 15 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete, this is certainly not defining for almost anyone not
Sherlock Holmes.--
Mvqr (
talk) 11:08, 16 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete or listify (I think there is a list already). This is non-defining, it’s just like a category of people who drink alcohol. A bit more specific, but still. Not category-worthy. Velociraptor888 00:01, 23 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete, as the creator of the category, per
WP:NONDEF as stated in previous comments and speedy close per
WP:SNOW. --
NoonIcarus (
talk) 12:54, 23 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Well 11 days after the opening it was too late for a speedy close. Even more so now that it is 14 days after the opening. We do seem to have an issue of CfD discussions not being closed much of late.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 17:40, 26 January 2022 (UTC)reply
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Category:Education boards in Pakistan
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The result of the discussion was:reverse merge. –
FayenaticLondon 10:35, 3 March 2022 (UTC)reply
I think reverse merge would be better.
Peterkingiron (
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Category:Universities and colleges outside Europe following the European Credit Transfer System
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Nominator's rationale:delete, small category and not a defining characteristic.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 08:22, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete -- A number of European universities have branch in the middle east or south or east Asia. This may be the basis for a category, but this one is too specific.
Peterkingiron (
talk) 20:48, 22 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete This is the type of thing that will change from time to time and is not defining to the institution.
John Pack Lambert (
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Category:Independence movements in Antigua and Barbuda
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