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Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:NONDEF. I also believe it should be moved up a category and be a subcategory of
Category:Mutinies instead.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 22:44, 9 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Much clearer scope.
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Support Creator. As long as there's some way to distinguish between fictional and real mutinies.
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Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:NONDEF, to make it more definingly about aerial warfare.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
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'Support Not more defining, but provides a clearer scope.
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Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:NONDEF, to make it more definingly about things that are specifically about invasions.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
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Support The suggestion makes the definition more expansive.
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Nominator's rationale: Both these categories relate to the last three centuries, and renaming will integrate them into a series, rather than being “orphan” categories.
Hugo999 (
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Support Decent streamlining of the category tree.
Dimadick (
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Comment I intend to add the decades and years subcats for Australia as for other countries. And most of the crime breakdowns by decade or year by country etc relate to the last three centuries.
Hugo999 (
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Then "by period" would be the more appropriate parent.
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Comment -- The only 20th century human rights content is internment camps. Whether these were or were not a human rights abuses is a POV issue. The internment of enemy aliens in wartime is a matter of national self-defence. Its implementation may be so heavy handed as to be an abuse, but internment is not an abuse per se.
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Nominator's rationale: rename and merge, "by period" is the standard format of these types of categories (e.g.
Category:Arts by period,
Category:Literature by period,
Category:Architecture by period) and there is no reason to have two of these categories. If this goes ahead, I presume that the "by date" and "by period of creation" subcategories can be speedily be renamed to "by period".
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Oppose it's works by date. The date category tree is by date. Periods are a subset of dates. The Baroque Period is a period, 1842 is a date, not a period. --
64.229.88.43 (
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Oppose To take a random example; "Piano concerti of the Classical period" and "Piano concerti of the Romantic period" (is that how the categories are named? do they even exist? whatever, the idea is the same no matter what the categories are) is a meaningfully separate way to distinguish these than "Piano concerti by date of composition"
RandomCanadian (
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Merge per nomination.
Category:Works by period of creation seems to have been created by
user:Stefanomione to separate named-period categories from date-based categories. I find this separation unnecessary. That user has since been banned from category activity and much of his work has been reverted. –
FayenaticLondon 09:22, 11 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Oppose. I feel this distinction is entirely valid and should be retained, as per similar comments above on this item. --
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Sure, but is a decade or a year a date or are they a period? I would say the latter.
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Oppose -- This is a container, where most of the content is "by date".
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Nominator's rationale: The current name gives the mistaken impression that is it meant to include missions started by French-Canadian and French-American priests after the fall of New France. The note on the category page makes it clear this category is for missions in New France only. A separate category will need to be create for "French missions" created after the fall of New France. --
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Purge, none of the first four articles clearly belongs in this category. I have not checked the rest yet.
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I have meanwhile purged some articles.
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Category:Banks based in in the Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex
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Support -- This ought to have been speedied. The category has 7 items which is enough to keep. Assuming that Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex is a genuine conurbation (I am the other side of the Atlantic), there is no reason why this should not be kept.
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Oppose renaming. The existing, broad category covers all Breton/ethnic Breton women, not just a certain specific time period.
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Nominator's rationale:merge overdue categories, the
duchy of Brittany lost its independence halfway the 16th century, and rename or merge the parent category for less ambiguity.
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OpposeBretons are an ethnicity, and they still exist in the 21st century.
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Keep -- Brittanny is an identifiable region of France, consisting the 3 departments since the Revolution. Each of these has at least 5 items, so that I see no need to change anything.
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Nominator's rationale: One of several 1-page subcategories of the listed merge target; I will bulk nominate all of them if this one closes as merge. Should also be merged to
Category:Bengali-language newspapers. –
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Support, both target categories are meanwhile very lightly populated, so the article will not get lost.
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Comment: These renamings may well be correct and helpful, but note that there is a parent
Category:Animated series which has a main article
Animated series and also encompasses sub-cats for other media namely
Animated web series,
Animated film series and
Anime series. It already has cross-media subcats for
Pink Panther and
Transformers, and probably more could be added. The latter are media sub-cats rather than character sub-cats; nevertheless, after the renamings, it is possible that some of the current categories might be justifiably re-created for cross-media franchise characters. –
FayenaticLondon 10:08, 27 July 2022 (UTC)reply
I would have no issue with that.
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Support Clearer scope.
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Category:Child murder during the Russian invasion of Ukraine
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Nominator's rationale: Muslim is prefered term
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Support, same as what we use for real people.
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Support To match the parent categories.
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Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:NONDEF. I also believe it should be moved up a category and be a subcategory of
Category:Mutinies instead.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 22:44, 9 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Much clearer scope.
Dimadick (
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Support Creator. As long as there's some way to distinguish between fictional and real mutinies.
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Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:NONDEF, to make it more definingly about aerial warfare.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 21:11, 9 August 2022 (UTC)reply
'Support Not more defining, but provides a clearer scope.
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Category:Invasions in fiction
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WP:NONDEF, to make it more definingly about things that are specifically about invasions.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 21:09, 9 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Support The suggestion makes the definition more expansive.
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Nominator's rationale: Both these categories relate to the last three centuries, and renaming will integrate them into a series, rather than being “orphan” categories.
Hugo999 (
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Support Decent streamlining of the category tree.
Dimadick (
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Comment I intend to add the decades and years subcats for Australia as for other countries. And most of the crime breakdowns by decade or year by country etc relate to the last three centuries.
Hugo999 (
talk) 22:27, 6 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Then "by period" would be the more appropriate parent.
Marcocapelle (
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Comment -- The only 20th century human rights content is internment camps. Whether these were or were not a human rights abuses is a POV issue. The internment of enemy aliens in wartime is a matter of national self-defence. Its implementation may be so heavy handed as to be an abuse, but internment is not an abuse per se.
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Nominator's rationale: rename and merge, "by period" is the standard format of these types of categories (e.g.
Category:Arts by period,
Category:Literature by period,
Category:Architecture by period) and there is no reason to have two of these categories. If this goes ahead, I presume that the "by date" and "by period of creation" subcategories can be speedily be renamed to "by period".
Marcocapelle (
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Oppose it's works by date. The date category tree is by date. Periods are a subset of dates. The Baroque Period is a period, 1842 is a date, not a period. --
64.229.88.43 (
talk) 14:52, 10 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Oppose To take a random example; "Piano concerti of the Classical period" and "Piano concerti of the Romantic period" (is that how the categories are named? do they even exist? whatever, the idea is the same no matter what the categories are) is a meaningfully separate way to distinguish these than "Piano concerti by date of composition"
RandomCanadian (
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Merge per nomination.
Category:Works by period of creation seems to have been created by
user:Stefanomione to separate named-period categories from date-based categories. I find this separation unnecessary. That user has since been banned from category activity and much of his work has been reverted. –
FayenaticLondon 09:22, 11 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Oppose. I feel this distinction is entirely valid and should be retained, as per similar comments above on this item. --
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Sure, but is a decade or a year a date or are they a period? I would say the latter.
Marcocapelle (
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Oppose -- This is a container, where most of the content is "by date".
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Nominator's rationale: The current name gives the mistaken impression that is it meant to include missions started by French-Canadian and French-American priests after the fall of New France. The note on the category page makes it clear this category is for missions in New France only. A separate category will need to be create for "French missions" created after the fall of New France. --
Kevlar (
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Purge, none of the first four articles clearly belongs in this category. I have not checked the rest yet.
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I have meanwhile purged some articles.
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Category:Banks based in in the Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex
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Support -- This ought to have been speedied. The category has 7 items which is enough to keep. Assuming that Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex is a genuine conurbation (I am the other side of the Atlantic), there is no reason why this should not be kept.
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Oppose renaming. The existing, broad category covers all Breton/ethnic Breton women, not just a certain specific time period.
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Nominator's rationale:merge overdue categories, the
duchy of Brittany lost its independence halfway the 16th century, and rename or merge the parent category for less ambiguity.
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OpposeBretons are an ethnicity, and they still exist in the 21st century.
Dimadick (
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Keep -- Brittanny is an identifiable region of France, consisting the 3 departments since the Revolution. Each of these has at least 5 items, so that I see no need to change anything.
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Nominator's rationale: One of several 1-page subcategories of the listed merge target; I will bulk nominate all of them if this one closes as merge. Should also be merged to
Category:Bengali-language newspapers. –
LaundryPizza03 (
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Support, both target categories are meanwhile very lightly populated, so the article will not get lost.
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Comment: These renamings may well be correct and helpful, but note that there is a parent
Category:Animated series which has a main article
Animated series and also encompasses sub-cats for other media namely
Animated web series,
Animated film series and
Anime series. It already has cross-media subcats for
Pink Panther and
Transformers, and probably more could be added. The latter are media sub-cats rather than character sub-cats; nevertheless, after the renamings, it is possible that some of the current categories might be justifiably re-created for cross-media franchise characters. –
FayenaticLondon 10:08, 27 July 2022 (UTC)reply
I would have no issue with that.
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Support Clearer scope.
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Category:Child murder during the Russian invasion of Ukraine
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Nominator's rationale: Muslim is prefered term
★Trekker (
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Support, same as what we use for real people.
Marcocapelle (
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Support To match the parent categories.
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