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Nominator's rationale: Category with just one entry and one subcategory.
...William, is the complaint department really on
the roof? 22:32, 11 May 2021 (UTC)reply
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Category:VoA scripted users
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Category:Media manipulation theorists
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Several solutions are possible including purge or mere deletion. Merging with parent
Category:Mass media theorists may be my preference at first glance, with the exception of
Category:Voting theorists which is less related to mass media than the other child categories.
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Pinoy jazz
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Comment, the term Pino Jazz does not prominently occur in the articles of this category.
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Category:Hindu warriors
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Nominator's rationale:manually merge, this is a hodgepodge and not surprisingly we do not have a similar category for other religions. Many articles in the category are about monarchs (who should not be included in the merge), some are about people involved in a war between a Hindu state and a Muslim state (but in very different wars), while for others it is entirely unclear why they are in a religious (Hindu) category.
Marcocapelle (
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Merge If you're willing to take this one, I'll support a manual merge. (I would have just nominated it as a straight delete.) -
RevelationDirect (
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Merge The intersection of religion and being a warrior is not defining. Beyond this, applying "Hindu" as a religious descriptor in the pre-modern era is more complex and problematic in some cases than categorization like this suggests.
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Category:Members of the United Confederate Veterans
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I certainly can't claim
WP:SMALLCAT here because, at its peak, the
United Confederate Veterans had 1,555 different "camps" (aka lodges/chapters). The organization represented ex-solders who had fought for the Confederacy during the American Civil War so all of these biographies should already be somewhere under
Category:Confederate States of America military personnel. Simply joining a membership organization is not defining and would create category clutter.
Background We recently deleted another membership category for another veteran group
right here. -
RevelationDirect (
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Delete per nom. Just membership of an organization is hardly ever defining.
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Category:Explorers of the Atlantic Ocean
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That's a fair point: it wouldn't be a total overlap. -
RevelationDirect (
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Delete, I do not have objections against the category as such but the two articles currently in the category do not belong.
Marcocapelle (
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@
Marcocapelle: It's now populated with over 20 articles about explorers of the Atlantic.
Grutness...wha? 02:02, 13 May 2021 (UTC)reply
No, these all suffer from the same problem, they are all explorers of the Atlantic coasts (mostly the Americas) rather than of the ocean itself. If any, geologists and biologists (studying Atlantic sea life) might fit. But not sure about it.
Marcocapelle (
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Keep -- now adequately populated, though I am not sure why
Sebastian Cabot is not included. The category might be better for a headnote defining its scope more precisely to the Age of Exploration.
Peterkingiron (
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Isn't that sufficient? And doesn't this also illustrate that he explored the Americas rather than the Atlantic?
Marcocapelle (
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Delete. The Atlantic Ocean is so vast that exploration of the Atlantic Ocean can refer to too many totally unrelated things to make a defining topic. What is there in common between
Pytheas,
Hanno the Navigator (other potentially legitimate candidates) and later explorers of the Caribbean, Southern Atlantic or the Northwest passage, besides simply being navigators and explorers? I doubt that there would be publications dedicated to the exploration of the Atlantic, all of it, and not the rest of the world. Explorers are better defined by more precise (i.e. smaller) geographies and/or by their origin.
Place Clichy (
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Delete This was not really a distinct group of explorers. I have to admit that I think in the long run we need to trim exploere categories. The fact that Sebastian Cabot is in 5 such categories is clearly excessive.
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Nominator's rationale: Category with just one entry and one subcategory.
...William, is the complaint department really on
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Category:Media manipulation theorists
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Several solutions are possible including purge or mere deletion. Merging with parent
Category:Mass media theorists may be my preference at first glance, with the exception of
Category:Voting theorists which is less related to mass media than the other child categories.
Place Clichy (
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Pinoy jazz
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Comment, the term Pino Jazz does not prominently occur in the articles of this category.
Marcocapelle (
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Category:Hindu warriors
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Nominator's rationale:manually merge, this is a hodgepodge and not surprisingly we do not have a similar category for other religions. Many articles in the category are about monarchs (who should not be included in the merge), some are about people involved in a war between a Hindu state and a Muslim state (but in very different wars), while for others it is entirely unclear why they are in a religious (Hindu) category.
Marcocapelle (
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Merge If you're willing to take this one, I'll support a manual merge. (I would have just nominated it as a straight delete.) -
RevelationDirect (
talk) 00:28, 12 May 2021 (UTC)reply
Merge The intersection of religion and being a warrior is not defining. Beyond this, applying "Hindu" as a religious descriptor in the pre-modern era is more complex and problematic in some cases than categorization like this suggests.
John Pack Lambert (
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Category:Members of the United Confederate Veterans
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I certainly can't claim
WP:SMALLCAT here because, at its peak, the
United Confederate Veterans had 1,555 different "camps" (aka lodges/chapters). The organization represented ex-solders who had fought for the Confederacy during the American Civil War so all of these biographies should already be somewhere under
Category:Confederate States of America military personnel. Simply joining a membership organization is not defining and would create category clutter.
Background We recently deleted another membership category for another veteran group
right here. -
RevelationDirect (
talk)
Delete per nom. Just membership of an organization is hardly ever defining.
Marcocapelle (
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Category:Explorers of the Atlantic Ocean
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That's a fair point: it wouldn't be a total overlap. -
RevelationDirect (
talk) 09:30, 11 May 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete, I do not have objections against the category as such but the two articles currently in the category do not belong.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 07:35, 11 May 2021 (UTC)reply
@
Marcocapelle: It's now populated with over 20 articles about explorers of the Atlantic.
Grutness...wha? 02:02, 13 May 2021 (UTC)reply
No, these all suffer from the same problem, they are all explorers of the Atlantic coasts (mostly the Americas) rather than of the ocean itself. If any, geologists and biologists (studying Atlantic sea life) might fit. But not sure about it.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 05:46, 13 May 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep -- now adequately populated, though I am not sure why
Sebastian Cabot is not included. The category might be better for a headnote defining its scope more precisely to the Age of Exploration.
Peterkingiron (
talk) 15:50, 16 May 2021 (UTC)reply
Isn't that sufficient? And doesn't this also illustrate that he explored the Americas rather than the Atlantic?
Marcocapelle (
talk) 18:27, 16 May 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete. The Atlantic Ocean is so vast that exploration of the Atlantic Ocean can refer to too many totally unrelated things to make a defining topic. What is there in common between
Pytheas,
Hanno the Navigator (other potentially legitimate candidates) and later explorers of the Caribbean, Southern Atlantic or the Northwest passage, besides simply being navigators and explorers? I doubt that there would be publications dedicated to the exploration of the Atlantic, all of it, and not the rest of the world. Explorers are better defined by more precise (i.e. smaller) geographies and/or by their origin.
Place Clichy (
talk) 08:12, 19 May 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete This was not really a distinct group of explorers. I have to admit that I think in the long run we need to trim exploere categories. The fact that Sebastian Cabot is in 5 such categories is clearly excessive.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 12:33, 2 June 2021 (UTC)reply
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