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Category:Dave McPherson (musician) EPs

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:11, 18 August 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Not much use for a category for a single redirect whose target offers no info about the topic outside of listing it in the discography section. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 22:58, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Controversial Wikipedias

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The result of the discussion was: deleted as block evasion. Graham 87 05:43, 11 August 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:CATDEFINING, none of these articles include the statement of "controversial, mainly due to high amounts of internet bots." Further explanation: These Wikipedias were indeed expanded by bots, but none say this was controversial. The sole controversial Wikipedia is the Scots Wikipedia, which is already categorized under Category:Wikipedia controversies. (CC) Tbhotch 22:09, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Redundant to Category:Wikipedia controversies. There might be a controversy at a Wikipedia project but that doesn't make the project "controversial". They are incidents and the entire project shouldn't be labeled as controversial. It also looks like one very new editor's subjective opinion. Liz Read! Talk! 23:26, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Jeff Bezos

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:13, 18 August 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: As per WP:OCEPON I don't see this category taking off. So far it's a very small number of arbitrary 'things related to Jeff Bezos' which are directly linked from Jeff Bezos already. Jeff Bezos companies might have more merit and cover a few of the entries?. JeffUK ( talk) 20:51, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete for now, unless it can be well populated. "Can't see this taking off"? I see what you did there... Grutness... wha? 01:31, 13 August 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Specific Polish letters

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 September 8#Category:Specific Polish letters

Category:Opposition to Islam by continent

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 September 8#Category:Opposition to Islam by continent

Category:Wikipedia images of Indonesia by User:Cccefalon

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:16, 18 August 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Delete we do not use categories to categorize content by the creating user; Special:Contributions is used instead. UnitedStatesian ( talk) 17:12, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Thomas Metcalfe (Kentucky politician)

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The result of the discussion was: rename and repurpose.Fayenatic London 20:33, 6 September 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT and WP:OCEPON. This eponymous category contains only 5 articles and one of them is the article itself. User:Namiba 19:35, 26 July 2021 (UTC) reply
Comment I'm fine with the category being deleted, but is it worth creating a new category, Category:Buildings constructed by Thomas Metcalfe? I know there is a list article, but a category might also be desirable. Based on the list article, there would be a non-trivial number of articles included in such a category. Acdixon ( talk · contribs) 13:24, 27 July 2021 (UTC) reply
Are there any comparable categories? I cannot find any and I don't know if making a whole new tree makes sense.-- User:Namiba 13:45, 28 July 2021 (UTC) reply
I would consider it the same as Category:Books by Mark Twain or Category:Paintings by Vincent van Gogh. There may not be another "Buildings constructed by..." category, but I guess there aren't that many notable builders. Acdixon ( talk · contribs) 14:31, 28 July 2021 (UTC) reply
That makes sense to me. We already have Category:People associated with buildings and structures.-- User:Namiba 15:54, 29 July 2021 (UTC) reply
I'm completely OK with deleting the category for the person if we can create a new category for the buildings he built. Would hate to lose that info. Acdixon ( talk · contribs) 14:45, 2 August 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Opposition to Fidel Castro

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:18, 18 August 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per Cuban dissident movement. Fidel Castro is dead but opposition to the regime he created is ongoing. Charles Essie ( talk) 18:58, 18 July 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose renaming for now. While I agree that opposition to the current state in Cuba is more than opposition to Fidel Castro, I think the term Cuban dissident movement should be reconsidered as well. There have been multiple dissident movements over the past two centuries including against the Spanish as well as the corrupt governments which came before the July 26 revolution. A better name is needed for both the category and article.-- User:Namiba 14:00, 20 July 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Sure, but those were against Spanish rule and the pre-revolutionary government were usually called "nationalists" or "revolutionaries" and not "dissidents". Charles Essie ( talk) 20:15, 26 July 2021 (UTC) reply
How about Category:Opposition to the Cuban Revolution?-- User:Namiba 21:32, 23 July 2021 (UTC) reply
I disagree. The Cuban Revolution ended in 1959 which was before the Cuban dissident movement even started and some dissident groups are/were not against it, they just didn't like what came after. Charles Essie ( talk) 20:11, 26 July 2021 (UTC) reply
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Could you be more specific? Charles Essie ( talk) 17:08, 28 July 2021 (UTC) reply
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  • Oppose as nominated. The current title is arguably too specific, but the proposed alternative is terminally short of specificity. I am open to other suggestions, but nothing so far works better than the current title. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 23:13, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:The Beatles and radio

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 August 23#Category:The Beatles and radio

Category:Television shows filmed in Vancouver

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Category:42-cylinder engines

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The result of the discussion was: rename, option B. bibliomaniac 1 5 17:53, 8 September 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: To follow form of other cylinder engine categories DemonStalker ( talk) 12:24, 2 August 2021 (UTC) reply
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  • Comment - is this EngVar? Forty two looks fine to me and to the Guardian, and is of course the Ultimate Answer. 40 2-cylinder engines sounds interesting. 42-cylinder engines seems to side-step such problems niftily so I would go along with Grutness' suggestion of renaming the others. Oculi ( talk) 09:09, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Procedural alternative nomination, option B. (I do not have a preference myself.) Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:07, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Adult films

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:07, 25 August 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This is an inherently subjective category, and it's also indistinguishable from a euphemism for pornography (which has its own category tree). NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 04:03, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply
I have tagged the three subcategories too. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:54, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Lets not have euphemistic categories. Rathfelder ( talk) 20:19, 14 August 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete This is normally a euphamism for "pornographic films", which we have an actual category for. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 14:18, 20 August 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Olympic glider pilots

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The result of the discussion was: keep top level category ( Category:Glider pilots at the 1936 Summer Olympics), delete all other subcats.. bibliomaniac 1 5 17:56, 8 September 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This was a demonstration sport in the 1936 Olympics only. There's just one pilot ( Alexandru Papană) in the four subcategories, which should also be deleted: Clarityfiend ( talk) 03:22, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply
2nd category: Category:Olympic glider pilots by country
3rd category: Category:Olympic glider pilots of Romania
4th category: Category:Olympic glider pilots by year
5th category: Category:Glider pilots at the 1936 Summer Olympics
I stand corrected! In that case, keep the top-level category, and bin the rest. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 18:11, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply

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August 10

Category:Dave McPherson (musician) EPs

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:11, 18 August 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Not much use for a category for a single redirect whose target offers no info about the topic outside of listing it in the discography section. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 22:58, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Controversial Wikipedias

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The result of the discussion was: deleted as block evasion. Graham 87 05:43, 11 August 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:CATDEFINING, none of these articles include the statement of "controversial, mainly due to high amounts of internet bots." Further explanation: These Wikipedias were indeed expanded by bots, but none say this was controversial. The sole controversial Wikipedia is the Scots Wikipedia, which is already categorized under Category:Wikipedia controversies. (CC) Tbhotch 22:09, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Redundant to Category:Wikipedia controversies. There might be a controversy at a Wikipedia project but that doesn't make the project "controversial". They are incidents and the entire project shouldn't be labeled as controversial. It also looks like one very new editor's subjective opinion. Liz Read! Talk! 23:26, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Jeff Bezos

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:13, 18 August 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: As per WP:OCEPON I don't see this category taking off. So far it's a very small number of arbitrary 'things related to Jeff Bezos' which are directly linked from Jeff Bezos already. Jeff Bezos companies might have more merit and cover a few of the entries?. JeffUK ( talk) 20:51, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete for now, unless it can be well populated. "Can't see this taking off"? I see what you did there... Grutness... wha? 01:31, 13 August 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Specific Polish letters

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 September 8#Category:Specific Polish letters

Category:Opposition to Islam by continent

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 September 8#Category:Opposition to Islam by continent

Category:Wikipedia images of Indonesia by User:Cccefalon

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:16, 18 August 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Delete we do not use categories to categorize content by the creating user; Special:Contributions is used instead. UnitedStatesian ( talk) 17:12, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Thomas Metcalfe (Kentucky politician)

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The result of the discussion was: rename and repurpose.Fayenatic London 20:33, 6 September 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT and WP:OCEPON. This eponymous category contains only 5 articles and one of them is the article itself. User:Namiba 19:35, 26 July 2021 (UTC) reply
Comment I'm fine with the category being deleted, but is it worth creating a new category, Category:Buildings constructed by Thomas Metcalfe? I know there is a list article, but a category might also be desirable. Based on the list article, there would be a non-trivial number of articles included in such a category. Acdixon ( talk · contribs) 13:24, 27 July 2021 (UTC) reply
Are there any comparable categories? I cannot find any and I don't know if making a whole new tree makes sense.-- User:Namiba 13:45, 28 July 2021 (UTC) reply
I would consider it the same as Category:Books by Mark Twain or Category:Paintings by Vincent van Gogh. There may not be another "Buildings constructed by..." category, but I guess there aren't that many notable builders. Acdixon ( talk · contribs) 14:31, 28 July 2021 (UTC) reply
That makes sense to me. We already have Category:People associated with buildings and structures.-- User:Namiba 15:54, 29 July 2021 (UTC) reply
I'm completely OK with deleting the category for the person if we can create a new category for the buildings he built. Would hate to lose that info. Acdixon ( talk · contribs) 14:45, 2 August 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Opposition to Fidel Castro

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:18, 18 August 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per Cuban dissident movement. Fidel Castro is dead but opposition to the regime he created is ongoing. Charles Essie ( talk) 18:58, 18 July 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose renaming for now. While I agree that opposition to the current state in Cuba is more than opposition to Fidel Castro, I think the term Cuban dissident movement should be reconsidered as well. There have been multiple dissident movements over the past two centuries including against the Spanish as well as the corrupt governments which came before the July 26 revolution. A better name is needed for both the category and article.-- User:Namiba 14:00, 20 July 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Sure, but those were against Spanish rule and the pre-revolutionary government were usually called "nationalists" or "revolutionaries" and not "dissidents". Charles Essie ( talk) 20:15, 26 July 2021 (UTC) reply
How about Category:Opposition to the Cuban Revolution?-- User:Namiba 21:32, 23 July 2021 (UTC) reply
I disagree. The Cuban Revolution ended in 1959 which was before the Cuban dissident movement even started and some dissident groups are/were not against it, they just didn't like what came after. Charles Essie ( talk) 20:11, 26 July 2021 (UTC) reply
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Could you be more specific? Charles Essie ( talk) 17:08, 28 July 2021 (UTC) reply
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  • Oppose as nominated. The current title is arguably too specific, but the proposed alternative is terminally short of specificity. I am open to other suggestions, but nothing so far works better than the current title. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 23:13, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:The Beatles and radio

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 August 23#Category:The Beatles and radio

Category:Television shows filmed in Vancouver

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Category:42-cylinder engines

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The result of the discussion was: rename, option B. bibliomaniac 1 5 17:53, 8 September 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: To follow form of other cylinder engine categories DemonStalker ( talk) 12:24, 2 August 2021 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Comment - is this EngVar? Forty two looks fine to me and to the Guardian, and is of course the Ultimate Answer. 40 2-cylinder engines sounds interesting. 42-cylinder engines seems to side-step such problems niftily so I would go along with Grutness' suggestion of renaming the others. Oculi ( talk) 09:09, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Procedural alternative nomination, option B. (I do not have a preference myself.) Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:07, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Adult films

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:07, 25 August 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This is an inherently subjective category, and it's also indistinguishable from a euphemism for pornography (which has its own category tree). NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 04:03, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply
I have tagged the three subcategories too. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:54, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Lets not have euphemistic categories. Rathfelder ( talk) 20:19, 14 August 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete This is normally a euphamism for "pornographic films", which we have an actual category for. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 14:18, 20 August 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Olympic glider pilots

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The result of the discussion was: keep top level category ( Category:Glider pilots at the 1936 Summer Olympics), delete all other subcats.. bibliomaniac 1 5 17:56, 8 September 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This was a demonstration sport in the 1936 Olympics only. There's just one pilot ( Alexandru Papană) in the four subcategories, which should also be deleted: Clarityfiend ( talk) 03:22, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply
2nd category: Category:Olympic glider pilots by country
3rd category: Category:Olympic glider pilots of Romania
4th category: Category:Olympic glider pilots by year
5th category: Category:Glider pilots at the 1936 Summer Olympics
I stand corrected! In that case, keep the top-level category, and bin the rest. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 18:11, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply

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