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Nominator's rationale: Not much use for a category for a single redirect whose target offers no info about the topic outside of listing it in the discography section. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 22:58, 10 August 2021 (UTC)reply
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Category:Controversial Wikipedias
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The result of the discussion was:deleted as block evasion. Graham87 05:43, 11 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:CATDEFINING, none of these articles include the statement of "controversial, mainly due to high amounts of internet bots." Further explanation: These Wikipedias were indeed expanded by bots, but none say this was controversial. The sole controversial Wikipedia is the
Scots Wikipedia, which is already categorized under
Category:Wikipedia controversies.
(CC)Tbhotch™ 22:09, 10 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete Redundant to
Category:Wikipedia controversies. There might be a controversy at a Wikipedia project but that doesn't make the project "controversial". They are incidents and the entire project shouldn't be labeled as controversial. It also looks like one very new editor's subjective opinion. LizRead!Talk! 23:26, 10 August 2021 (UTC)reply
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Category:Jeff Bezos
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Nominator's rationale: As per
WP:OCEPON I don't see this category taking off. So far it's a very small number of arbitrary 'things related to Jeff Bezos' which are directly linked from
Jeff Bezos already. Jeff Bezos companies might have more merit and cover a few of the entries?.
JeffUK (
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Delete for now, unless it can be well populated. "Can't see this taking off"? I see what you did there...
Grutness...wha? 01:31, 13 August 2021 (UTC)reply
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Category:Wikipedia images of Indonesia by User:Cccefalon
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Nominator's rationale:Delete we do not use categories to categorize content by the creating user; Special:Contributions is used instead.
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Category:Thomas Metcalfe (Kentucky politician)
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The result of the discussion was:rename and repurpose. –
FayenaticLondon 20:33, 6 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT and
WP:OCEPON. This eponymous category contains only 5 articles and one of them is the article itself.
User:Namiba 19:35, 26 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment I'm fine with the category being deleted, but is it worth creating a new category,
Category:Buildings constructed by Thomas Metcalfe? I know there is a list article, but a category might also be desirable. Based on the list article, there would be a non-trivial number of articles included in such a category.
Acdixon(
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Are there any comparable categories? I cannot find any and I don't know if making a whole new tree makes sense.--
User:Namiba 13:45, 28 July 2021 (UTC)reply
I'm completely OK with deleting the category for the person if we can create a new category for the buildings he built. Would hate to lose that info.
Acdixon(
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Delete There is a high bar for creating eponomous categories, which is not even close to being met here.
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I withdraw my suggestion to delete and instead back Marcocape's proposal.--
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Category:Opposition to Fidel Castro
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Oppose renaming for now. While I agree that opposition to the current state in Cuba is more than opposition to Fidel Castro, I think the term
Cuban dissident movement should be reconsidered as well. There have been multiple dissident movements over the past two centuries including against the Spanish as well as the corrupt governments which came before the July 26 revolution. A better name is needed for both the category and article.--
User:Namiba 14:00, 20 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Sure, but those were against Spanish rule and the pre-revolutionary government were usually called "nationalists" or "revolutionaries" and not "dissidents".
Charles Essie (
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I disagree. The
Cuban Revolution ended in 1959 which was before the
Cuban dissident movement even started and some dissident groups are/were not against it, they just didn't like what came after.
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Oppose as nominated. The current title is arguably too specific, but the proposed alternative is terminally short of specificity. I am open to other suggestions, but nothing so far works better than the current title. --
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The result of the discussion was:rename, option B. bibliomaniac15 17:53, 8 September 2021 (UTC)reply
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Comment - is this EngVar? Forty two looks fine to me and to
the Guardian, and is of course the Ultimate Answer. 40 2-cylinder engines sounds interesting. 42-cylinder engines seems to side-step such problems niftily so I would go along with Grutness' suggestion of renaming the others.
Oculi (
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Procedural alternative nomination, option B. (I do not have a preference myself.)
Marcocapelle (
talk) 19:07, 10 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Support option B, as above, per
WP:MOSNUMERAL (which supports forty-two rather than forty two, and allows forty-two or 42 - still, 42 seems better to me).
Oculi (
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Support option B, for clarity, brevity and simplicity. Have all the categories been tagged? --
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Category:Adult films
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Nominator's rationale: This is an inherently subjective category, and it's also indistinguishable from a euphemism for pornography (which has its own category tree).
NinjaRobotPirate (
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Procedural comment, this should be nominated together with its American, Australian and Canadian subcategories.
Marcocapelle (
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I have tagged the three subcategories too.
Marcocapelle (
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Lets not have euphemistic categories.
Rathfelder (
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Delete This is normally a euphamism for "pornographic films", which we have an actual category for.
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Category:Olympic glider pilots
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Nominator's rationale: This was a demonstration sport in the 1936 Olympics only. There's just one pilot (
Alexandru Papană) in the four subcategories, which should also be deleted:
Clarityfiend (
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Delete all per nom. As a side note, according to
this list, 21 people took part in the demonstration sport, and Papană is not listed as one of them. I doubt if any of the others are notable, apart from
Ignaz Stiefsohn, who was
killed in a crash in the event. LugnutsFire Walk with Me 06:33, 10 August 2021 (UTC)reply
I stand corrected! In that case, keep the top-level category, and bin the rest. LugnutsFire Walk with Me 18:11, 10 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep one top category. Delete (or upmerge) the rest. We do not need a complicated structure for a demonstration sport.
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Nominator's rationale: Not much use for a category for a single redirect whose target offers no info about the topic outside of listing it in the discography section. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 22:58, 10 August 2021 (UTC)reply
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Category:Controversial Wikipedias
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The result of the discussion was:deleted as block evasion. Graham87 05:43, 11 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:CATDEFINING, none of these articles include the statement of "controversial, mainly due to high amounts of internet bots." Further explanation: These Wikipedias were indeed expanded by bots, but none say this was controversial. The sole controversial Wikipedia is the
Scots Wikipedia, which is already categorized under
Category:Wikipedia controversies.
(CC)Tbhotch™ 22:09, 10 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete Redundant to
Category:Wikipedia controversies. There might be a controversy at a Wikipedia project but that doesn't make the project "controversial". They are incidents and the entire project shouldn't be labeled as controversial. It also looks like one very new editor's subjective opinion. LizRead!Talk! 23:26, 10 August 2021 (UTC)reply
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Category:Jeff Bezos
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WP:OCEPON I don't see this category taking off. So far it's a very small number of arbitrary 'things related to Jeff Bezos' which are directly linked from
Jeff Bezos already. Jeff Bezos companies might have more merit and cover a few of the entries?.
JeffUK (
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Delete for now, unless it can be well populated. "Can't see this taking off"? I see what you did there...
Grutness...wha? 01:31, 13 August 2021 (UTC)reply
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Category:Wikipedia images of Indonesia by User:Cccefalon
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UnitedStatesian (
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Category:Thomas Metcalfe (Kentucky politician)
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The result of the discussion was:rename and repurpose. –
FayenaticLondon 20:33, 6 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT and
WP:OCEPON. This eponymous category contains only 5 articles and one of them is the article itself.
User:Namiba 19:35, 26 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment I'm fine with the category being deleted, but is it worth creating a new category,
Category:Buildings constructed by Thomas Metcalfe? I know there is a list article, but a category might also be desirable. Based on the list article, there would be a non-trivial number of articles included in such a category.
Acdixon(
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Are there any comparable categories? I cannot find any and I don't know if making a whole new tree makes sense.--
User:Namiba 13:45, 28 July 2021 (UTC)reply
I'm completely OK with deleting the category for the person if we can create a new category for the buildings he built. Would hate to lose that info.
Acdixon(
talk·contribs) 14:45, 2 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete There is a high bar for creating eponomous categories, which is not even close to being met here.
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I withdraw my suggestion to delete and instead back Marcocape's proposal.--
User:Namiba 12:48, 10 August 2021 (UTC)reply
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Category:Opposition to Fidel Castro
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Oppose renaming for now. While I agree that opposition to the current state in Cuba is more than opposition to Fidel Castro, I think the term
Cuban dissident movement should be reconsidered as well. There have been multiple dissident movements over the past two centuries including against the Spanish as well as the corrupt governments which came before the July 26 revolution. A better name is needed for both the category and article.--
User:Namiba 14:00, 20 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Sure, but those were against Spanish rule and the pre-revolutionary government were usually called "nationalists" or "revolutionaries" and not "dissidents".
Charles Essie (
talk) 20:15, 26 July 2021 (UTC)reply
I disagree. The
Cuban Revolution ended in 1959 which was before the
Cuban dissident movement even started and some dissident groups are/were not against it, they just didn't like what came after.
Charles Essie (
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Qwerfjkltalk 09:55, 10 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Oppose as nominated. The current title is arguably too specific, but the proposed alternative is terminally short of specificity. I am open to other suggestions, but nothing so far works better than the current title. --
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The result of the discussion was:rename, option B. bibliomaniac15 17:53, 8 September 2021 (UTC)reply
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Comment - is this EngVar? Forty two looks fine to me and to
the Guardian, and is of course the Ultimate Answer. 40 2-cylinder engines sounds interesting. 42-cylinder engines seems to side-step such problems niftily so I would go along with Grutness' suggestion of renaming the others.
Oculi (
talk) 09:09, 10 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Procedural alternative nomination, option B. (I do not have a preference myself.)
Marcocapelle (
talk) 19:07, 10 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Support option B, as above, per
WP:MOSNUMERAL (which supports forty-two rather than forty two, and allows forty-two or 42 - still, 42 seems better to me).
Oculi (
talk) 22:16, 10 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Support option B, for clarity, brevity and simplicity. Have all the categories been tagged? --
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Category:Adult films
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Nominator's rationale: This is an inherently subjective category, and it's also indistinguishable from a euphemism for pornography (which has its own category tree).
NinjaRobotPirate (
talk) 04:03, 10 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Procedural comment, this should be nominated together with its American, Australian and Canadian subcategories.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 06:19, 10 August 2021 (UTC)reply
I have tagged the three subcategories too.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 18:54, 10 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Lets not have euphemistic categories.
Rathfelder (
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Delete This is normally a euphamism for "pornographic films", which we have an actual category for.
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Category:Olympic glider pilots
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Nominator's rationale: This was a demonstration sport in the 1936 Olympics only. There's just one pilot (
Alexandru Papană) in the four subcategories, which should also be deleted:
Clarityfiend (
talk) 03:22, 10 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete all per nom. As a side note, according to
this list, 21 people took part in the demonstration sport, and Papană is not listed as one of them. I doubt if any of the others are notable, apart from
Ignaz Stiefsohn, who was
killed in a crash in the event. LugnutsFire Walk with Me 06:33, 10 August 2021 (UTC)reply
I stand corrected! In that case, keep the top-level category, and bin the rest. LugnutsFire Walk with Me 18:11, 10 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep one top category. Delete (or upmerge) the rest. We do not need a complicated structure for a demonstration sport.
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