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Category:San Marinese musical instruments

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete, and there was no opposition to the idea that the proper adjective is "Sammarinese". Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:06, 24 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This is the only category on Wikipedia that uses the demonym "San Marinese". But for the country San Marino, " Sammarinese" is the accepted demonym. Indeed, all other categories on Wikipedia use "Sammarinese" -- nearly all are subcats of Category:Sammarinese people so you can check that page for lots of examples. The only other category that exists on wikipedia with a similar format is Category:San Marinese musical groups ... which is just a redirect to Category:Sammarinese musical groups. Astrophobe ( talk) 21:53, 16 June 2020 (UTC) reply
CATEGORY NOT TAGGED. 18:52, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
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Category:Films by year

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:08, 24 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: I'd like to categorize viral videos by year (see Category:Viral videos). fgnievinski ( talk) 21:10, 16 June 2020 (UTC) reply
^^ This Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:16, 17 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:Italian folktales

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Stories within Italian Folktales. bibliomaniac 1 5 19:57, 6 July 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Restore the pre-2017 capitalization. This category refers the title of a book ( Italian Folktales), so should be capitalized. Alternatively, capitalize and add a disambiguation phrase, e.g. (Italo Calvino) or (1956). pburka ( talk) 20:06, 16 June 2020 (UTC) reply
After it's been checked they are in Category:Italian fairy tales or another. Johnbod ( talk) 15:58, 21 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:Insects of Belize

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:10, 24 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Which specific countries an insect is found in is often non-defining (e.g. see Horama panthalon which is currently in 15 geographical categories).  In some cases the country isn't even mentioned in the article.  Previous similar CFDs. DexDor (talk) 17:40, 16 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:University of Arkansas Campus Historic District

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:13, 24 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Small category (namesake + 1 article) that is unlikely to grow substantially. User:Namiba 13:15, 16 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:History of universities and colleges in the United States

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: No consensus Timrollpickering ( talk) 13:47, 30 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT; these categories contain fewer than 5 articles and are unlikely to grow significantly in the near future. The name of the current head category, category:History of United States colleges and universities, has been nominated for speedy renaming. User:Namiba 12:41, 16 June 2020 (UTC) reply
I fixed this nomination and the parent category to reflect common naming practices per Occuli.-- User:Namiba 16:32, 16 June 2020 (UTC) reply
The speedy rename to Category:History of universities and colleges in the United States has succeeded. Oculi ( talk) 11:35, 19 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Weak oppose: As someone who is active in creating articles on the history of universities in the United States, there is certainly potential for growth, albeit relatively slow growth. I see that the Texas category, which is the one I'm (currently) active within, has not been nominated for merging. I think that it is too large to consider for merging, but I also don't like the idea of just dumping the smaller categories together and treating them differently than the larger categories like California and Texas. However, I don't feel extremely convicted about this stand, so I'm going to give this a "weak oppose". Michael Barera ( talk) 17:47, 21 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose There is certainly room for growth and it can be encouraged by having the category framework to support it. Grey Wanderer ( talk) 01:46, 26 June 2020 (UTC) reply
How does having dozens of very small categories aid navigation, which is what categories are design to do. They're not to encourage growth of any particular article.-- User:Namiba 03:33, 26 June 2020 (UTC) reply
If i was curious about only the history of colleges in a particular state I would find it quite helpful in navigation. You misunderstand, I find categories like this helpful when choosing what article to create next, not in expanding any particular article. Grey Wanderer ( talk) 20:12, 28 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Categories aren't for the tiny percent of Wikipedia users who create articles. They exist to aid navigation of the readers of articles to " browse and quickly find sets of pages on topics that are defined by those characteristics." I don't think having to go through 20 or so very small categories to find what they're looking for does that. What you're arguing is basically that very small categories are useful to you, which is an argument to avoid in deletion discussions.-- User:Namiba 20:34, 28 June 2020 (UTC) reply
I think the most important part to take away is that I think they are useful in navigation to users other than myself . In addition, If I happen to find something personally useful on Wikipedia I’m gonna stick up for it, under the philosophy that others probably also find it useful for the same reasons. Grey Wanderer ( talk) 20:56, 28 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Again, being useful is not a reason to keep a set of categories.-- User:Namiba 21:09, 28 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Obviously I disagree, if a category is useful for navigation shouldn’t it be kept? Grey Wanderer ( talk) 21:53, 28 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:Japanese Baseball Hall of Fame inductees

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:13, 24 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING ( WP:OCAWARD)
The Japanese Baseball Hall of Fame and the Meikyukai are rival (and largely overlapping) Japanese baseball halls of fame that seem to have similar prominence. Many of the articles in here are are very short and could use some editor attention but, of the longer ones, both halls of fame are normally mentioned in passing with other accomplishments. (A number of articles have that whole paragraph in the intro though.) Like most halls of fame, this one recognizes accomplishments much earlier in their careers for which the players are already categorized, so it doesn't seem defining. For any reader interested in the topic, the winners are already listified in here in the main article, which could also use some editor attention. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 00:08, 16 June 2020 (UTC) reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:WCF Hall of Fame inductees

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:14, 24 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING ( WP:OCAWARD)
The World Curling Federation is based in Scotland and is actually quite prominent as the world governing body for curling. Their WCF Hall of Fame is more obscure though and was established in 2012, although they automatically added some earlier winners of a different award. Like most halls of fame, it reflects rather than amplifies their fame so it doesn't seem defining and all of these people are in more specific curling categories to aid navigation. The articles are pretty evenly balanced between those that mention the award in passing, those that don't mention it at all, and those with it in the lede, but that last category was largely due to a single enthusiastic editor over two days. The contents of the category are already listified here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 00:08, 16 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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< June 15 June 17 >

June 16

Category:San Marinese musical instruments

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete, and there was no opposition to the idea that the proper adjective is "Sammarinese". Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:06, 24 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This is the only category on Wikipedia that uses the demonym "San Marinese". But for the country San Marino, " Sammarinese" is the accepted demonym. Indeed, all other categories on Wikipedia use "Sammarinese" -- nearly all are subcats of Category:Sammarinese people so you can check that page for lots of examples. The only other category that exists on wikipedia with a similar format is Category:San Marinese musical groups ... which is just a redirect to Category:Sammarinese musical groups. Astrophobe ( talk) 21:53, 16 June 2020 (UTC) reply
CATEGORY NOT TAGGED. 18:52, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Films by year

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: withdrawn. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:08, 24 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: I'd like to categorize viral videos by year (see Category:Viral videos). fgnievinski ( talk) 21:10, 16 June 2020 (UTC) reply
^^ This Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:16, 17 June 2020 (UTC) reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Italian folktales

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Stories within Italian Folktales. bibliomaniac 1 5 19:57, 6 July 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Restore the pre-2017 capitalization. This category refers the title of a book ( Italian Folktales), so should be capitalized. Alternatively, capitalize and add a disambiguation phrase, e.g. (Italo Calvino) or (1956). pburka ( talk) 20:06, 16 June 2020 (UTC) reply
After it's been checked they are in Category:Italian fairy tales or another. Johnbod ( talk) 15:58, 21 June 2020 (UTC) reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Insects of Belize

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:10, 24 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Which specific countries an insect is found in is often non-defining (e.g. see Horama panthalon which is currently in 15 geographical categories).  In some cases the country isn't even mentioned in the article.  Previous similar CFDs. DexDor (talk) 17:40, 16 June 2020 (UTC) reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:University of Arkansas Campus Historic District

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:13, 24 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Small category (namesake + 1 article) that is unlikely to grow substantially. User:Namiba 13:15, 16 June 2020 (UTC) reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:History of universities and colleges in the United States

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: No consensus Timrollpickering ( talk) 13:47, 30 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT; these categories contain fewer than 5 articles and are unlikely to grow significantly in the near future. The name of the current head category, category:History of United States colleges and universities, has been nominated for speedy renaming. User:Namiba 12:41, 16 June 2020 (UTC) reply
I fixed this nomination and the parent category to reflect common naming practices per Occuli.-- User:Namiba 16:32, 16 June 2020 (UTC) reply
The speedy rename to Category:History of universities and colleges in the United States has succeeded. Oculi ( talk) 11:35, 19 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Weak oppose: As someone who is active in creating articles on the history of universities in the United States, there is certainly potential for growth, albeit relatively slow growth. I see that the Texas category, which is the one I'm (currently) active within, has not been nominated for merging. I think that it is too large to consider for merging, but I also don't like the idea of just dumping the smaller categories together and treating them differently than the larger categories like California and Texas. However, I don't feel extremely convicted about this stand, so I'm going to give this a "weak oppose". Michael Barera ( talk) 17:47, 21 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose There is certainly room for growth and it can be encouraged by having the category framework to support it. Grey Wanderer ( talk) 01:46, 26 June 2020 (UTC) reply
How does having dozens of very small categories aid navigation, which is what categories are design to do. They're not to encourage growth of any particular article.-- User:Namiba 03:33, 26 June 2020 (UTC) reply
If i was curious about only the history of colleges in a particular state I would find it quite helpful in navigation. You misunderstand, I find categories like this helpful when choosing what article to create next, not in expanding any particular article. Grey Wanderer ( talk) 20:12, 28 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Categories aren't for the tiny percent of Wikipedia users who create articles. They exist to aid navigation of the readers of articles to " browse and quickly find sets of pages on topics that are defined by those characteristics." I don't think having to go through 20 or so very small categories to find what they're looking for does that. What you're arguing is basically that very small categories are useful to you, which is an argument to avoid in deletion discussions.-- User:Namiba 20:34, 28 June 2020 (UTC) reply
I think the most important part to take away is that I think they are useful in navigation to users other than myself . In addition, If I happen to find something personally useful on Wikipedia I’m gonna stick up for it, under the philosophy that others probably also find it useful for the same reasons. Grey Wanderer ( talk) 20:56, 28 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Again, being useful is not a reason to keep a set of categories.-- User:Namiba 21:09, 28 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Obviously I disagree, if a category is useful for navigation shouldn’t it be kept? Grey Wanderer ( talk) 21:53, 28 June 2020 (UTC) reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Japanese Baseball Hall of Fame inductees

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:13, 24 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING ( WP:OCAWARD)
The Japanese Baseball Hall of Fame and the Meikyukai are rival (and largely overlapping) Japanese baseball halls of fame that seem to have similar prominence. Many of the articles in here are are very short and could use some editor attention but, of the longer ones, both halls of fame are normally mentioned in passing with other accomplishments. (A number of articles have that whole paragraph in the intro though.) Like most halls of fame, this one recognizes accomplishments much earlier in their careers for which the players are already categorized, so it doesn't seem defining. For any reader interested in the topic, the winners are already listified in here in the main article, which could also use some editor attention. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 00:08, 16 June 2020 (UTC) reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:WCF Hall of Fame inductees

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:14, 24 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING ( WP:OCAWARD)
The World Curling Federation is based in Scotland and is actually quite prominent as the world governing body for curling. Their WCF Hall of Fame is more obscure though and was established in 2012, although they automatically added some earlier winners of a different award. Like most halls of fame, it reflects rather than amplifies their fame so it doesn't seem defining and all of these people are in more specific curling categories to aid navigation. The articles are pretty evenly balanced between those that mention the award in passing, those that don't mention it at all, and those with it in the lede, but that last category was largely due to a single enthusiastic editor over two days. The contents of the category are already listified here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 00:08, 16 June 2020 (UTC) reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
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