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The result of the discussion was: Speedy closed as rename, C2C--
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Category:Model railroad manufacturers
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Nominator's rationale: Substantial overlap of concept. Many manufacturers produce stuff for both ends of the market, and people who start off with toy trains progress to models. There is no clear boundary between them. Maybe needs a different name - perhaps "Toy and model railway manufacturers" or "Rail transport modelling companies"?
Rathfelder (
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Comment There is a clear distinction between a
Scale model and a toy; which I seem to remember being discussed here before. I don't think merging these two is actually gone to improve things.
Twiceuponatime (
talk) 09:21, 10 June 2019 (UTC)reply
I think you are wrong to suggest there is a clear distinction between the two. There is a continuum. Some products are clearly toys, some are clearly models, many can be seen as either. Toy trains are all made to a scale.
Rathfelder (
talk) 14:56, 10 June 2019 (UTC)reply
...and they are quite distinct. Twiceuponatime is right - there is a clear distinction.
Grutness...wha? 15:44, 13 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Model railways and toy trains are different things, as Twiceuponatime points out. There are some companies, however, which manufacture both, hence the incorrect perception of a continuum. I would, however, support a renaming of the proposed category to
Category:Model rail manufacturers as a language neutral form.
Grutness...wha? 15:44, 13 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Most of the companies produce both models and toys, and much of what they produce can be described as either.
Rathfelder (
talk) 08:58, 18 June 2019 (UTC)reply
That may be true, but what I look at is whether your proposal to merge is going to improve the category structure. I can accept that the present structure is far from perfect, but I cannot see that your proposal makes things better.
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Category:Wikipedians who use Chromebook
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The result of the discussion was:delete.
MER-C 09:47, 16 June 2019 (UTC)reply
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Category:County of Aragon
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The result of the discussion was:rename.
MER-C 09:48, 16 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:rename, per actual content of the category, it contains biographies of counts, rather than history articles about the county.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 11:05, 8 June 2019 (UTC)reply
As the one who created the category, I agree with the change.
Maragm (
talk) 14:06, 8 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Support These are the rulers of the County, not other articles relating to it.
Dimadick (
talk) 21:07, 9 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Support per nom (was Delete by mistake), as there is unlikely to be much specific content to the County period in the history of Aragon, besides the list of counts.
Place Clichy (
talk) 10:54, 11 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Support -- but
County of Aragon (a substantive article) should be used as a main article (as well as a list article for rulers). We are unlikely to get other content on this small polity.
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Category:Countesses of Barcelona
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The result of the discussion was:keep.
MER-C 09:44, 13 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Oppose.
Count of Barcelona is a list that shows that several move countesses would be eligible even if queen-consorts of Aragon are kept out, and at least 2 already have an article:
Douce I, Countess of Provence and
Petronilla of Aragon (who was queen-regnant of Aragon and countess-consort of Barcelona, and brought Aragon in the House of Barcelona). Also, the title of Count of Barcelona was later revived, first by Louis XIII of France, then by 20th-century
Infante Juan, Count of Barcelona, so their spouses are probably considered countesses as well.
Place Clichy (
talk) 10:54, 11 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Comment in the second case, a re-creation of the title would have to have its own category. Am inclined to support the nomination with the additional safeguards suggested by the nom.
Laurel Lodged (
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Category:Calixa-Lavallée Award winners
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MER-C 09:47, 16 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:delete per
WP:OCAWARD, just one of many awards in this field. Besides, the main article already contains a list.
Marcocapelle (
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Category:Model railroad manufacturers
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Nominator's rationale: Substantial overlap of concept. Many manufacturers produce stuff for both ends of the market, and people who start off with toy trains progress to models. There is no clear boundary between them. Maybe needs a different name - perhaps "Toy and model railway manufacturers" or "Rail transport modelling companies"?
Rathfelder (
talk) 17:16, 8 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Comment There is a clear distinction between a
Scale model and a toy; which I seem to remember being discussed here before. I don't think merging these two is actually gone to improve things.
Twiceuponatime (
talk) 09:21, 10 June 2019 (UTC)reply
I think you are wrong to suggest there is a clear distinction between the two. There is a continuum. Some products are clearly toys, some are clearly models, many can be seen as either. Toy trains are all made to a scale.
Rathfelder (
talk) 14:56, 10 June 2019 (UTC)reply
...and they are quite distinct. Twiceuponatime is right - there is a clear distinction.
Grutness...wha? 15:44, 13 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Model railways and toy trains are different things, as Twiceuponatime points out. There are some companies, however, which manufacture both, hence the incorrect perception of a continuum. I would, however, support a renaming of the proposed category to
Category:Model rail manufacturers as a language neutral form.
Grutness...wha? 15:44, 13 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Most of the companies produce both models and toys, and much of what they produce can be described as either.
Rathfelder (
talk) 08:58, 18 June 2019 (UTC)reply
That may be true, but what I look at is whether your proposal to merge is going to improve the category structure. I can accept that the present structure is far from perfect, but I cannot see that your proposal makes things better.
Twiceuponatime (
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Category:Wikipedians who use Chromebook
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The result of the discussion was:delete.
MER-C 09:47, 16 June 2019 (UTC)reply
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Category:County of Aragon
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The result of the discussion was:rename.
MER-C 09:48, 16 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:rename, per actual content of the category, it contains biographies of counts, rather than history articles about the county.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 11:05, 8 June 2019 (UTC)reply
As the one who created the category, I agree with the change.
Maragm (
talk) 14:06, 8 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Support These are the rulers of the County, not other articles relating to it.
Dimadick (
talk) 21:07, 9 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Support per nom (was Delete by mistake), as there is unlikely to be much specific content to the County period in the history of Aragon, besides the list of counts.
Place Clichy (
talk) 10:54, 11 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Support -- but
County of Aragon (a substantive article) should be used as a main article (as well as a list article for rulers). We are unlikely to get other content on this small polity.
Peterkingiron (
talk) 17:05, 12 June 2019 (UTC)reply
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Category:Countesses of Barcelona
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The result of the discussion was:keep.
MER-C 09:44, 13 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Oppose.
Count of Barcelona is a list that shows that several move countesses would be eligible even if queen-consorts of Aragon are kept out, and at least 2 already have an article:
Douce I, Countess of Provence and
Petronilla of Aragon (who was queen-regnant of Aragon and countess-consort of Barcelona, and brought Aragon in the House of Barcelona). Also, the title of Count of Barcelona was later revived, first by Louis XIII of France, then by 20th-century
Infante Juan, Count of Barcelona, so their spouses are probably considered countesses as well.
Place Clichy (
talk) 10:54, 11 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Comment in the second case, a re-creation of the title would have to have its own category. Am inclined to support the nomination with the additional safeguards suggested by the nom.
Laurel Lodged (
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Category:Calixa-Lavallée Award winners
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The result of the discussion was:delete.
MER-C 09:47, 16 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:delete per
WP:OCAWARD, just one of many awards in this field. Besides, the main article already contains a list.
Marcocapelle (
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