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Keep, media about Animals, reporting on the latest up to date current events, info and happenings is much more vast than Animal and pet magazines. Cat news for example is a "happening thing" and as unconceivable as it may be, people take it seriously. Take The Catnip Times and The Purrington Post. These are news sites which cat lovers and people associated with industries that make money off of cats check daily. Magazines can't do that.
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11:01, 24 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete All 3 In practice, none of these are aiding navigation today. While there is definitely a cultural trend with cat videos and memes, it's hard to see how that will generate individually notable articles.
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Delete All 3 In practice, none of these are aiding navigation today. While there is definitely a cultural trend with cat videos and memes, it's hard to see how that will generate individually notable articles.
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Reply to ජපස aka jps - The page could be divided into two sections. When I created it, I created it with the intention of it being Cat News. News for cat lovers, enthusiast and industries that make their money from cats. This is not cruft as you suggest. I have been monitoring what has been going on in the world of cats for some time and I have seen an upward trend which brought me to the conclusion that there definitely is an important media scene about cats. In hindsight I can see now how the creation has attracted the desire to delete, but I still stand by what I say.
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Keep. Cat media is a "happening thing" right now! The problem is that many people have this "purring fur balls" image pop in their mind when they think of people and cats. I dare say that cat lovers and people that talk about cats often are thought of as eccentric. That's not the case at all. I'm being honest here. I do like cats and I've had cats in the past. But I in no way go to the lengths that some people do to celebrate their status as a cat lover. I'm not a fanatic! I guarantee that if the cat media category stays, it will become a magnet to other cat-related articles being created and aid in the expansion of Wikipedia. Surely that can't be a bad thing. And Wikipedia won't be overrun with Cat articles. And it won't turn into
Whiskerpedia either. BTW: The reason why I linked Whiskerpedia is that I believe there'll be a site with that name in a few years.
Karl Twist (
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11:13, 24 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete All 3 In practice, none of these are aiding navigation today. While there is definitely a cultural trend with cat videos and memes, it's hard to see how that will generate individually notable articles.
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Category:Canadian expatriates in foreign political positions
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Support, these are mostly people who permanently moved from Canada to another country at a fairly young age, they are not what we usually call expatriates.
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09:20, 20 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete. This is not a defining characteristic — not least because it includes people who were born in Canada but then moved to other countries as children, but because it also includes people (e.g.
Vaira Vīķe-Freiberga) who were born in other countries and then became naturalized citizens of Canada before moving back to their native country again. That doesn't create a useful commonality between Vīķe-Freiberga and
Jennifer Granholm, for example. It's also slightly odd that
Ted Cruz isn't also here, though I suspect that's got more to do with past inclusion-warring over its relevance to his article than with him simply having been overlooked.
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20:39, 21 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete the problem is that most of these people, like Granholm, are citizens of the country in which they served in office. Expatriates are people who are not only not yet citizens in their host country, but still have deep connections and in theory plan to return to their mother country. So the very title of this category is flawed.
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Nominator's rationale:delete, hardly any content of this category is specifically about the period of the British Empire. Many subcategories and articles are about still existing Anglican church bodies.
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12:47, 19 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep Without the conquest by the Empire, there would be no "Anglican Church in Foo". It wasn't the salvation of immaterial souls that motivated their establishment you know, rather the the plundering of raw materials.
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12:53, 19 January 2019 (UTC)reply
True, but this is an entirely different case. It is not about religion in the British Empire but instead about current churches which have started up during the British Empire.
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19:24, 21 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete except we have
Category:Anglican Church in Central America that primarily exists in countries such as Guatemala. Much of the claims of the link of Empire and Church are not well supported by the facts on the ground. The spread of Christianity in India was largely against the will of the British authorities, not with their consent and encouragement for example. Then we have the Episcopal Church snuck in here, even though it only was formed after American indepdence.
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Nominator's rationale: Procedural listing. I have reverted the undiscussed move by @
Störm, to restore the status quo ante. This discussion can consider whatever rationale Störm chooses to advance for their proposal. --
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Support for obvious reason. We should use the title which is common and is standard practice, per
WP:COMMONTITLE. The suggested title is correct and common because it is used by US Govt.
[1], South China Morning Post (SCMP), a top newspaper covering China
[2] and by The Diplomat[3], a Japanese magazine, and many other not mentioned. It is a term used by newspapers around the word to refer to Chinese SOEs. Thanks.
Störm(talk)16:55, 11 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Well, the articles also stated the influence of the State Council/central government, plus nomenklatura, the dual system of the party is the government, thus the firms are leaded by party via government.
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Support based on cursory results from Google. "State-owned enterprise" has seven times the hits as "Government-owned company". When you add "China" as an additional search term, it's still four times as many results. This seems to be the more common phrase. ~
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The result of the discussion was:delete. I have left a dump of the category's current contents at
WT:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 January 19#Fly_fishing_target_species. And no, I haven't made it a list article, because that requires sources etc ... and when I have previously created bare list articles of category contents, they have just sat around unsourced until deletion. But anyone who wants to create a proper list can do use the dump as a starting point. --
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I'm not doubting that there are some fish that are fly fishing targets and some that are not; the point is: of those that are fly fishing targets for many/all of them that's a non-defining characteristic. DexDor(talk)22:52, 19 January 2019 (UTC)reply
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weak keep For no other reason then it will stop the other form being bloated. I do not want to have to wade through 666 items to find the one I want.
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Keep, media about Animals, reporting on the latest up to date current events, info and happenings is much more vast than Animal and pet magazines. Cat news for example is a "happening thing" and as unconceivable as it may be, people take it seriously. Take The Catnip Times and The Purrington Post. These are news sites which cat lovers and people associated with industries that make money off of cats check daily. Magazines can't do that.
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11:01, 24 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete All 3 In practice, none of these are aiding navigation today. While there is definitely a cultural trend with cat videos and memes, it's hard to see how that will generate individually notable articles.
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14:35, 10 February 2019 (UTC)reply
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Delete All 3 In practice, none of these are aiding navigation today. While there is definitely a cultural trend with cat videos and memes, it's hard to see how that will generate individually notable articles.
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14:36, 10 February 2019 (UTC)reply
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Reply to ජපස aka jps - The page could be divided into two sections. When I created it, I created it with the intention of it being Cat News. News for cat lovers, enthusiast and industries that make their money from cats. This is not cruft as you suggest. I have been monitoring what has been going on in the world of cats for some time and I have seen an upward trend which brought me to the conclusion that there definitely is an important media scene about cats. In hindsight I can see now how the creation has attracted the desire to delete, but I still stand by what I say.
Karl Twist (
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11:22, 24 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep. Cat media is a "happening thing" right now! The problem is that many people have this "purring fur balls" image pop in their mind when they think of people and cats. I dare say that cat lovers and people that talk about cats often are thought of as eccentric. That's not the case at all. I'm being honest here. I do like cats and I've had cats in the past. But I in no way go to the lengths that some people do to celebrate their status as a cat lover. I'm not a fanatic! I guarantee that if the cat media category stays, it will become a magnet to other cat-related articles being created and aid in the expansion of Wikipedia. Surely that can't be a bad thing. And Wikipedia won't be overrun with Cat articles. And it won't turn into
Whiskerpedia either. BTW: The reason why I linked Whiskerpedia is that I believe there'll be a site with that name in a few years.
Karl Twist (
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11:13, 24 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete All 3 In practice, none of these are aiding navigation today. While there is definitely a cultural trend with cat videos and memes, it's hard to see how that will generate individually notable articles.
RevelationDirect (
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14:36, 10 February 2019 (UTC)reply
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Support, these are mostly people who permanently moved from Canada to another country at a fairly young age, they are not what we usually call expatriates.
Marcocapelle (
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09:20, 20 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete. This is not a defining characteristic — not least because it includes people who were born in Canada but then moved to other countries as children, but because it also includes people (e.g.
Vaira Vīķe-Freiberga) who were born in other countries and then became naturalized citizens of Canada before moving back to their native country again. That doesn't create a useful commonality between Vīķe-Freiberga and
Jennifer Granholm, for example. It's also slightly odd that
Ted Cruz isn't also here, though I suspect that's got more to do with past inclusion-warring over its relevance to his article than with him simply having been overlooked.
Bearcat (
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20:39, 21 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete the problem is that most of these people, like Granholm, are citizens of the country in which they served in office. Expatriates are people who are not only not yet citizens in their host country, but still have deep connections and in theory plan to return to their mother country. So the very title of this category is flawed.
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03:24, 7 February 2019 (UTC)reply
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Rob13Talk04:05, 10 March 2019 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale:delete, hardly any content of this category is specifically about the period of the British Empire. Many subcategories and articles are about still existing Anglican church bodies.
Marcocapelle (
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12:47, 19 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep Without the conquest by the Empire, there would be no "Anglican Church in Foo". It wasn't the salvation of immaterial souls that motivated their establishment you know, rather the the plundering of raw materials.
Laurel Lodged (
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12:53, 19 January 2019 (UTC)reply
True, but this is an entirely different case. It is not about religion in the British Empire but instead about current churches which have started up during the British Empire.
Marcocapelle (
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19:24, 21 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete except we have
Category:Anglican Church in Central America that primarily exists in countries such as Guatemala. Much of the claims of the link of Empire and Church are not well supported by the facts on the ground. The spread of Christianity in India was largely against the will of the British authorities, not with their consent and encouragement for example. Then we have the Episcopal Church snuck in here, even though it only was formed after American indepdence.
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Nominator's rationale: Procedural listing. I have reverted the undiscussed move by @
Störm, to restore the status quo ante. This discussion can consider whatever rationale Störm chooses to advance for their proposal. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
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08:18, 11 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Support for obvious reason. We should use the title which is common and is standard practice, per
WP:COMMONTITLE. The suggested title is correct and common because it is used by US Govt.
[1], South China Morning Post (SCMP), a top newspaper covering China
[2] and by The Diplomat[3], a Japanese magazine, and many other not mentioned. It is a term used by newspapers around the word to refer to Chinese SOEs. Thanks.
Störm(talk)16:55, 11 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Well, the articles also stated the influence of the State Council/central government, plus nomenklatura, the dual system of the party is the government, thus the firms are leaded by party via government.
Matthew hk (
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17:09, 11 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Support based on cursory results from Google. "State-owned enterprise" has seven times the hits as "Government-owned company". When you add "China" as an additional search term, it's still four times as many results. This seems to be the more common phrase. ~
Rob13Talk04:07, 10 March 2019 (UTC)reply
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The result of the discussion was:delete. I have left a dump of the category's current contents at
WT:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 January 19#Fly_fishing_target_species. And no, I haven't made it a list article, because that requires sources etc ... and when I have previously created bare list articles of category contents, they have just sat around unsourced until deletion. But anyone who wants to create a proper list can do use the dump as a starting point. --
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06:40, 9 March 2019 (UTC)reply
I'm not doubting that there are some fish that are fly fishing targets and some that are not; the point is: of those that are fly fishing targets for many/all of them that's a non-defining characteristic. DexDor(talk)22:52, 19 January 2019 (UTC)reply
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weak keep For no other reason then it will stop the other form being bloated. I do not want to have to wade through 666 items to find the one I want.
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