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September 8

Category:Clerks (film)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering 20:54, 16 September 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only five articles and all will be pretty easily interlinked and navigable from a footer. ― Justin (koavf)TCM 19:44, 8 September 2018 (UTC) reply

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Area codes in the United States by state

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The result of the discussion was: keep. xplicit 05:04, 4 October 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, small categories unlikely to grow. Some of these states are served exclusively by one area code, e.g. Area code 701 for North Dakota. All area codes in all states (including those not in this nomination) are already in Category:Area codes in the United States. A category is included here iff there are fewer than four articles. – LaundryPizza03 ( d ) 18:33, 8 September 2018 (UTC) reply

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Category:Abbott and Costello (film series)

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The result of the discussion was: split into Category:Abbott and Costello and Category:Abbott and Costello films. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:37, 6 October 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Does not exclusively include films. Article Abbott and Costello (film series) does not exist. – LaundryPizza03 ( d ) 17:36, 8 September 2018 (UTC) reply

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Category:Stella Vine

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering 20:55, 16 September 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary small category containing only two articles CallyMc ( talk) 15:29, 8 September 2018 (UTC) reply

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Category:8th-century disestablishments in Israel

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 12:03, 7 October 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete as an outlier in Category:Disestablishments in Israel by century which starts in the 20th century (to be precise, in 1948). Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:41, 8 September 2018 (UTC) reply
Also Category:8th century in Israel. GreyShark ( dibra) 05:15, 9 September 2018 (UTC) reply

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Category:Lübeck law

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The result of the discussion was:  Relisted at 2018 OCT 6 CFD. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:35, 6 October 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: rename since the large amount of this category consists of cities with Lübeck law rather than articles about Lübeck law itself. When this category is renamed, the first three articles may be moved to the two parent categories. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:37, 8 September 2018 (UTC) reply

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Category:Data with undue precision

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The result of the discussion was: keep ( non-admin closure). Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:02, 16 September 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Empty cleanup category with an unclear and possibly misleading scope.  —  Mr. Guye ( talk) ( contribs)  04:15, 8 September 2018 (UTC) reply
Or for conversions (e.g. Imperial to metric) that are more precise than the data warrants. That's really what the issue is. If the data is only precise to within 10%, and we (or someone else) convert it into a figure with 1% precision, then we're misrepresenting the source. E.g., if a distance is given as 1km, and we convert that to 0.62mi, then we're claiming a precision of 50ft instead of 500m. Or, sometimes the source itself will have spurious precision, because the journalist reporting on the topic has little understanding of stats. There have been edit wars over keeping undue precision inherited from a supposedly reliable source, and that has required consensus among editors who do know what they're doing to change it. — kwami ( talk) 18:20, 8 September 2018 (UTC) reply
Thanks, Fayenatic. — kwami ( talk) 16:11, 9 September 2018 (UTC) reply

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Category:Winter Olympic venues by year

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The result of the discussion was:  Relisted at 2018 OCT 7 CFD. Good Ol’factory (talk) 12:05, 7 October 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: While only the 2022 category ( Category:2022 Winter Olympic venues) uses "Olympic" rather than "Olympics"; all the Summer Olympics use "Olympic". Hence it seems preferable to change (e.g. to Category:2018 Winter Olympic venues etc.) so as to have the same format as for the Summer Olympics (see e.g. Category:2016 Summer Olympic venues). Hugo999 ( talk) 10:57, 8 September 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Support per nom. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 11:14, 8 September 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose For me, the word "Olympics" should stand as a plural. I think for example "2018 Winter Olympic venues" looks wrong as it contains the familiar name "2018 Winter Olympics" but with the 's' missing, so it just looks unfinished. "2018 Winter Olympics venues" seems correct as it describes venues of the "2018 Winter Olympics". Personally I'd prefer to see all the summer categories changed to "???? Summer Olympics venues". I can see that the singular version matches the idea of an "olympic venue" in which the word 'olympic' is an adjective describing the venue, but I think it's more important to retain the familiar plural word "Olympics" in this case. An alternative suggestion would be renaming to "Olympic venues of the 2018 Winter Olympics" but this might seem too wordy. Rodney Baggins ( talk) 10:22, 14 September 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Further comment While the possessive "Olympics" applies to events so Category:2018 Winter Olympics events as the events are part of the Olympics; the Olympic venues do not belong to the Olympics, but are associated with a particular Olympics; hence the category Category:2016 Summer Olympic venues (with "Olympic" not "Olympics") for venues associated with that Olympics. Hugo999 ( talk) 02:05, 17 September 2018 (UTC) reply
In which case why not just call it "Category:2016 Olympic venues" or "Category:Venues of the 2016 Summer Olympics" Rodney Baggins ( talk) 05:43, 17 September 2018 (UTC) reply

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September 8

Category:Clerks (film)

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering 20:54, 16 September 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only five articles and all will be pretty easily interlinked and navigable from a footer. ― Justin (koavf)TCM 19:44, 8 September 2018 (UTC) reply

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Area codes in the United States by state

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: keep. xplicit 05:04, 4 October 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, small categories unlikely to grow. Some of these states are served exclusively by one area code, e.g. Area code 701 for North Dakota. All area codes in all states (including those not in this nomination) are already in Category:Area codes in the United States. A category is included here iff there are fewer than four articles. – LaundryPizza03 ( d ) 18:33, 8 September 2018 (UTC) reply

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Category:Abbott and Costello (film series)

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The result of the discussion was: split into Category:Abbott and Costello and Category:Abbott and Costello films. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:37, 6 October 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Does not exclusively include films. Article Abbott and Costello (film series) does not exist. – LaundryPizza03 ( d ) 17:36, 8 September 2018 (UTC) reply

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Category:Stella Vine

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering 20:55, 16 September 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary small category containing only two articles CallyMc ( talk) 15:29, 8 September 2018 (UTC) reply

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Category:8th-century disestablishments in Israel

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 12:03, 7 October 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete as an outlier in Category:Disestablishments in Israel by century which starts in the 20th century (to be precise, in 1948). Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:41, 8 September 2018 (UTC) reply
Also Category:8th century in Israel. GreyShark ( dibra) 05:15, 9 September 2018 (UTC) reply

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Category:Lübeck law

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The result of the discussion was:  Relisted at 2018 OCT 6 CFD. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:35, 6 October 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: rename since the large amount of this category consists of cities with Lübeck law rather than articles about Lübeck law itself. When this category is renamed, the first three articles may be moved to the two parent categories. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:37, 8 September 2018 (UTC) reply

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Category:Data with undue precision

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The result of the discussion was: keep ( non-admin closure). Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:02, 16 September 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Empty cleanup category with an unclear and possibly misleading scope.  —  Mr. Guye ( talk) ( contribs)  04:15, 8 September 2018 (UTC) reply
Or for conversions (e.g. Imperial to metric) that are more precise than the data warrants. That's really what the issue is. If the data is only precise to within 10%, and we (or someone else) convert it into a figure with 1% precision, then we're misrepresenting the source. E.g., if a distance is given as 1km, and we convert that to 0.62mi, then we're claiming a precision of 50ft instead of 500m. Or, sometimes the source itself will have spurious precision, because the journalist reporting on the topic has little understanding of stats. There have been edit wars over keeping undue precision inherited from a supposedly reliable source, and that has required consensus among editors who do know what they're doing to change it. — kwami ( talk) 18:20, 8 September 2018 (UTC) reply
Thanks, Fayenatic. — kwami ( talk) 16:11, 9 September 2018 (UTC) reply

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Category:Winter Olympic venues by year

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:  Relisted at 2018 OCT 7 CFD. Good Ol’factory (talk) 12:05, 7 October 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: While only the 2022 category ( Category:2022 Winter Olympic venues) uses "Olympic" rather than "Olympics"; all the Summer Olympics use "Olympic". Hence it seems preferable to change (e.g. to Category:2018 Winter Olympic venues etc.) so as to have the same format as for the Summer Olympics (see e.g. Category:2016 Summer Olympic venues). Hugo999 ( talk) 10:57, 8 September 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Support per nom. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 11:14, 8 September 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose For me, the word "Olympics" should stand as a plural. I think for example "2018 Winter Olympic venues" looks wrong as it contains the familiar name "2018 Winter Olympics" but with the 's' missing, so it just looks unfinished. "2018 Winter Olympics venues" seems correct as it describes venues of the "2018 Winter Olympics". Personally I'd prefer to see all the summer categories changed to "???? Summer Olympics venues". I can see that the singular version matches the idea of an "olympic venue" in which the word 'olympic' is an adjective describing the venue, but I think it's more important to retain the familiar plural word "Olympics" in this case. An alternative suggestion would be renaming to "Olympic venues of the 2018 Winter Olympics" but this might seem too wordy. Rodney Baggins ( talk) 10:22, 14 September 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Further comment While the possessive "Olympics" applies to events so Category:2018 Winter Olympics events as the events are part of the Olympics; the Olympic venues do not belong to the Olympics, but are associated with a particular Olympics; hence the category Category:2016 Summer Olympic venues (with "Olympic" not "Olympics") for venues associated with that Olympics. Hugo999 ( talk) 02:05, 17 September 2018 (UTC) reply
In which case why not just call it "Category:2016 Olympic venues" or "Category:Venues of the 2016 Summer Olympics" Rodney Baggins ( talk) 05:43, 17 September 2018 (UTC) reply

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