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Nominator's rationale: The notion of a person who was born in Somalia and is a male long-distance runner is already sufficiently accounted for at
Category:Somalian male long-distance runners. I don't think being a Somali-born male long-distance runner who is not currently a Somalian citizen is a key enough characteristic to warrant its own categorisation scheme, and I would extend that to any combination of place of birth and athletics event.
SFB22:10, 8 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete or merge, we surely do not need separate "born" categories. I'm sympathizing with delete because these people were no longer Somalian while they were notable. However many biographies are put in a "from" category just based on the place of birth of the subject so a merge could be okay for consistency.
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12:21, 10 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete as discussed above merely having been born there doesn't mean you competed for that country. We don't need "born" categories as many people are only notable for their achievements after emigrating from somewhere.
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Category:Polaris people
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Nominator's rationale: Category had been used to list people who appeared on a specific show called Polaris Primetime or had a Youtube channel associated with Polaris. This goes against
WP:PERFCAT and it is not used for employees of the company, which would fit
Category:Maker Studios people. Many of the folks listed do not have any mention of Polaris in their biography, although some have listed Maker Studios. Note there is also a related category
Category:Polaris channels.
AngusWOOF (
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20:50, 8 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete. Also not mentioned is the problem of disambiguation. I saw the category name and assumed it was people connected with the nuclear weapons programme.
Grutness...wha?21:35, 8 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Usual procedure is to wait until the discussion's finished before doing that. If there's a swng towards keep you'd just have to add them back (see the third paragraph of the lede of
WP:CFD!)
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Category:Armenian people from Istanbul
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I'm not sure. Personally, I don't support Ethnic group in City categories in general, but I am especially opposed to biographies of members of an ethnic group from a city because it is likely to be included even when the city and their ethnicity are irrelevant to notability.--
TM13:25, 10 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep -- This is a well-populated intersection. Even if ethnic group by city categories are discouraged, in this case there it an adequate population to keep. It should be stressed that Armenians as an ethnic group in Turkey are not expatriates from the Republic of Armenia, but people who were subjects of the Ottoman and Byzantine Empires, long before the present republic was even thought of. Due to the Ottoman millet system, such religious groups were in practice endogamous, so that they have become ethnicities or something close to that. I think they retain their own language.
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17:37, 11 March 2018 (UTC)reply
There are literally thousands of categories that could be adequately populated but that does not mean it is defining.--
TM18:45, 11 March 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Discovery Communications
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Category:Health standards
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Questions. How is the current title misleading? What does "technical" mean in this context and is "technical" standard the defining characteristic here?
Marcocapelle (
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21:26, 9 March 2018 (UTC)reply
The articles are all about health technology, mostly computerised record systems, not about standards of health or medical treatment.
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22:00, 9 March 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Emerging standards
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Nominator's rationale: An inherently obsolete category - some of these standards appear to have been "emerging" for the last 10 years. All the articles seem to be about Wireless networking standards, but that is by no means the only arena in which standards emerge.
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Category:Simplification
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Nominator's rationale:delete per
WP:NONDEF and
WP:OR, items in these categories are not defined by the concept of simplification, the category content just reflects a personal view of what belongs to simplification.
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Category:British standards
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Category:Late Iron Age Scotland
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Dubious -- In England and Wales, Iron Age ends soon after AD 43. In Scotland, there was no permanent Roman conquest, so that the Iron Age continues much later. In Ireland the equivalent of the Dark Ages is "Early Christian". However, I am not clear what the accepted practice is in Scotland, where Christianity was a slightly later arrival.
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Category:Video game locations
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Nominator's rationale: There is a very large amount of overlap between this and
Category:Video game levels. The majority of notable game locations are also most likely going to be levels, aside from the rare article about a notable fictional world. Sometimes it is hard to figure out what's a level but not a location. It's easier to just merge one into the other and avoid the hassle, I think. ZXCVBNM (
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Nominator's rationale: The notion of a person who was born in Somalia and is a male long-distance runner is already sufficiently accounted for at
Category:Somalian male long-distance runners. I don't think being a Somali-born male long-distance runner who is not currently a Somalian citizen is a key enough characteristic to warrant its own categorisation scheme, and I would extend that to any combination of place of birth and athletics event.
SFB22:10, 8 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete or merge, we surely do not need separate "born" categories. I'm sympathizing with delete because these people were no longer Somalian while they were notable. However many biographies are put in a "from" category just based on the place of birth of the subject so a merge could be okay for consistency.
Marcocapelle (
talk)
12:21, 10 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete as discussed above merely having been born there doesn't mean you competed for that country. We don't need "born" categories as many people are only notable for their achievements after emigrating from somewhere.
Carlossuarez46 (
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05:59, 18 March 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Polaris people
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Nominator's rationale: Category had been used to list people who appeared on a specific show called Polaris Primetime or had a Youtube channel associated with Polaris. This goes against
WP:PERFCAT and it is not used for employees of the company, which would fit
Category:Maker Studios people. Many of the folks listed do not have any mention of Polaris in their biography, although some have listed Maker Studios. Note there is also a related category
Category:Polaris channels.
AngusWOOF (
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20:50, 8 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete. Also not mentioned is the problem of disambiguation. I saw the category name and assumed it was people connected with the nuclear weapons programme.
Grutness...wha?21:35, 8 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Usual procedure is to wait until the discussion's finished before doing that. If there's a swng towards keep you'd just have to add them back (see the third paragraph of the lede of
WP:CFD!)
Grutness...wha?21:38, 9 March 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Armenian people from Istanbul
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I'm not sure. Personally, I don't support Ethnic group in City categories in general, but I am especially opposed to biographies of members of an ethnic group from a city because it is likely to be included even when the city and their ethnicity are irrelevant to notability.--
TM13:25, 10 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep -- This is a well-populated intersection. Even if ethnic group by city categories are discouraged, in this case there it an adequate population to keep. It should be stressed that Armenians as an ethnic group in Turkey are not expatriates from the Republic of Armenia, but people who were subjects of the Ottoman and Byzantine Empires, long before the present republic was even thought of. Due to the Ottoman millet system, such religious groups were in practice endogamous, so that they have become ethnicities or something close to that. I think they retain their own language.
Peterkingiron (
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17:37, 11 March 2018 (UTC)reply
There are literally thousands of categories that could be adequately populated but that does not mean it is defining.--
TM18:45, 11 March 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Discovery Communications
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Category:Health standards
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Questions. How is the current title misleading? What does "technical" mean in this context and is "technical" standard the defining characteristic here?
Marcocapelle (
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21:26, 9 March 2018 (UTC)reply
The articles are all about health technology, mostly computerised record systems, not about standards of health or medical treatment.
Rathfelder (
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22:00, 9 March 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Emerging standards
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Nominator's rationale: An inherently obsolete category - some of these standards appear to have been "emerging" for the last 10 years. All the articles seem to be about Wireless networking standards, but that is by no means the only arena in which standards emerge.
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Nominator's rationale:delete per
WP:NONDEF and
WP:OR, items in these categories are not defined by the concept of simplification, the category content just reflects a personal view of what belongs to simplification.
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11:05, 8 March 2018 (UTC)reply
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Dubious -- In England and Wales, Iron Age ends soon after AD 43. In Scotland, there was no permanent Roman conquest, so that the Iron Age continues much later. In Ireland the equivalent of the Dark Ages is "Early Christian". However, I am not clear what the accepted practice is in Scotland, where Christianity was a slightly later arrival.
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Category:Video game locations
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Nominator's rationale: There is a very large amount of overlap between this and
Category:Video game levels. The majority of notable game locations are also most likely going to be levels, aside from the rare article about a notable fictional world. Sometimes it is hard to figure out what's a level but not a location. It's easier to just merge one into the other and avoid the hassle, I think. ZXCVBNM (
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