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The result of the discussion was:rename. There is a consensus that if the category is kept, it should be renamed. No consensus on @
Marcocapelle and
DexDor's suggestion to delete, so feel free to open a new deletion discussion on the renamed category. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
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09:20, 10 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Question is this a defining characteristic? I'm opening two articles,
Harvard station and
Haverford Station and both do not even mention a campus. I'm just speculating now that that these stations are near a campus rather than at a campus but that would raise the question how close to a campus a station should be to qualify for this category.
Marcocapelle (
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19:26, 27 March 2018 (UTC)reply
There is a possibility that the category's creator or some other editors may have been a bit overzealous in adding stations and it may require cleanup. I'm also not opposed to determining what criteria define a station being "at" a campus (i.e. Would a station that exclusively serves a college/university but isn't located directly on campus be considered "at"?). I can say that even if we limit this category to stations located on or immediately adjacent to colleges/universities it would still be a useful category. RA0808talkcontribs18:53, 28 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete (as we don't otherwise categorize stations by what they are at/near afaics - e.g. this is the only "Category:Railway stations at ...") or rename and purge. DexDor(talk)11:49, 4 April 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Lists of railway accidents in Australia
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Please do. And if you find any subcats that I've missed, feel free to add them. I am busy this week and next so I probably won't get to them (if any) until mid-April.
Carlossuarez46 (
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17:13, 30 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Support I like expanding the inclusion for noted reasons above. I suggest less wordiness, "accidents and" seems unnecessary if we define an accident as being an incident. Why would it not be?
Trackinfo (
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06:27, 7 April 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Organizations based in Antarctica
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Category:Television anchors from Lafayette, Indiana
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Nominator's rationale: Category has just one entry.
WP:SMALLCAT applies but the fact is that the one entry's only link to Lafayette is that they work in the city. The article also states Ms. King as being from other parts of Indiana. Consensus has been on workers based out of a city- Sportspeople for instance- that just working somewhere doesn't make the person from the place
...William, is the complaint department really on
the roof?13:44, 27 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Category has just one entry.
WP:SMALLCAT applies but the fact is that the one entry's only link to Grand Rapids is that they work in the city. Consensus has been on workers based out of a city- Sportspeople for instance- that just working somewhere doesn't make the person from the place.
...William, is the complaint department really on
the roof?13:41, 27 March 2018 (UTC)reply
There's a whole structure at
Category:American television anchors by city. Per
WP:SMALLCAT, "Avoid categories that, by their very definition, will never have more than a few members, unless such categories are part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme..." Please explain why the structure I note above doesn't qualify as "a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme"
Carlossuarez46 (
talk)
22:28, 27 March 2018 (UTC)reply
As I wrote above- Consensus has been on workers based out of a city- Sportspeople for instance- that just working somewhere doesn't make the person from the place. The only link these people have with these location. If these categories are only full of people who because they worked at WXYZ in Foo, there shouldn't be categories like 'Television anchors from Foo'.
...William, is the complaint department really on
the roof?22:50, 27 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete.
Category:American television anchors by city is not an "overall, accepted subcategorization scheme" in the sense that every city automatically gets one of these the moment there's one person from there to be filed in it — a city can have a subcategory in that tree if there are a lot of anchors from there, but does not automatically get one of these the moment the number of articles to file in it exceeds zero. By the same token, cities don't automatically get a "mayors of (City)" the moment one past or present mayor of that city has an article, either — it's a scheme where an individual city subcategory doesn't get created until there are at least five articles to file in it.
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14:31, 3 April 2018 (UTC)reply
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Corbeta Uruguay base
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The categories have not expanded since they were created in May 2013, and are unlikely to grow unless there is a massive expansion of en.wp coverage of the once-huge whaling operations in the South Sandwich Islands.
If and when that expansion happens, there may be a case for by-decade categories, but I doubt there could ever be enough to populate establishments-by-year and disestablishments-by-year. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
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01:43, 27 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment - would it not be better merging the categories to their Falkland Island equivalents, rather than British Empire ones - especially since the British Empire did not exist in 1976 or 1982?
Grutness...wha?00:59, 28 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Interesting... it actually says "The transfer of Hong Kong to China in 1997 marked for many the end of the British Empire." (my italics). I was always under the impression that the end of empire officially came with the independence of India: The official title of the British monarch prior to that time was (in a shortened form) King/Queen of the United Kingdom and her domains and territories, and Emperor/Empress of India. As such, after India's independence, George VI was no longer an Emperor, and thus Britain no longer had an empire.
Grutness...wha?01:55, 29 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Criticism accepted. However, the gradual dismantling of the empire since WWII has meant that the term has hardly been used (save historically) since the 1960s, when most major colonies achieved independence. I wonder whether the appropriate general parent for British possessions outside the British Isles might not be "British colonies".
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16:48, 8 April 2018 (UTC)reply
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The result of the discussion was:rename. There is a consensus that if the category is kept, it should be renamed. No consensus on @
Marcocapelle and
DexDor's suggestion to delete, so feel free to open a new deletion discussion on the renamed category. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
contribs)
09:20, 10 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Question is this a defining characteristic? I'm opening two articles,
Harvard station and
Haverford Station and both do not even mention a campus. I'm just speculating now that that these stations are near a campus rather than at a campus but that would raise the question how close to a campus a station should be to qualify for this category.
Marcocapelle (
talk)
19:26, 27 March 2018 (UTC)reply
There is a possibility that the category's creator or some other editors may have been a bit overzealous in adding stations and it may require cleanup. I'm also not opposed to determining what criteria define a station being "at" a campus (i.e. Would a station that exclusively serves a college/university but isn't located directly on campus be considered "at"?). I can say that even if we limit this category to stations located on or immediately adjacent to colleges/universities it would still be a useful category. RA0808talkcontribs18:53, 28 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete (as we don't otherwise categorize stations by what they are at/near afaics - e.g. this is the only "Category:Railway stations at ...") or rename and purge. DexDor(talk)11:49, 4 April 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Lists of railway accidents in Australia
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Please do. And if you find any subcats that I've missed, feel free to add them. I am busy this week and next so I probably won't get to them (if any) until mid-April.
Carlossuarez46 (
talk)
17:13, 30 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Support I like expanding the inclusion for noted reasons above. I suggest less wordiness, "accidents and" seems unnecessary if we define an accident as being an incident. Why would it not be?
Trackinfo (
talk)
06:27, 7 April 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Organizations based in Antarctica
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Category:Television anchors from Lafayette, Indiana
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Nominator's rationale: Category has just one entry.
WP:SMALLCAT applies but the fact is that the one entry's only link to Lafayette is that they work in the city. The article also states Ms. King as being from other parts of Indiana. Consensus has been on workers based out of a city- Sportspeople for instance- that just working somewhere doesn't make the person from the place
...William, is the complaint department really on
the roof?13:44, 27 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Category has just one entry.
WP:SMALLCAT applies but the fact is that the one entry's only link to Grand Rapids is that they work in the city. Consensus has been on workers based out of a city- Sportspeople for instance- that just working somewhere doesn't make the person from the place.
...William, is the complaint department really on
the roof?13:41, 27 March 2018 (UTC)reply
There's a whole structure at
Category:American television anchors by city. Per
WP:SMALLCAT, "Avoid categories that, by their very definition, will never have more than a few members, unless such categories are part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme..." Please explain why the structure I note above doesn't qualify as "a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme"
Carlossuarez46 (
talk)
22:28, 27 March 2018 (UTC)reply
As I wrote above- Consensus has been on workers based out of a city- Sportspeople for instance- that just working somewhere doesn't make the person from the place. The only link these people have with these location. If these categories are only full of people who because they worked at WXYZ in Foo, there shouldn't be categories like 'Television anchors from Foo'.
...William, is the complaint department really on
the roof?22:50, 27 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete.
Category:American television anchors by city is not an "overall, accepted subcategorization scheme" in the sense that every city automatically gets one of these the moment there's one person from there to be filed in it — a city can have a subcategory in that tree if there are a lot of anchors from there, but does not automatically get one of these the moment the number of articles to file in it exceeds zero. By the same token, cities don't automatically get a "mayors of (City)" the moment one past or present mayor of that city has an article, either — it's a scheme where an individual city subcategory doesn't get created until there are at least five articles to file in it.
Bearcat (
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14:31, 3 April 2018 (UTC)reply
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Corbeta Uruguay base
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The categories have not expanded since they were created in May 2013, and are unlikely to grow unless there is a massive expansion of en.wp coverage of the once-huge whaling operations in the South Sandwich Islands.
If and when that expansion happens, there may be a case for by-decade categories, but I doubt there could ever be enough to populate establishments-by-year and disestablishments-by-year. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
contribs)
01:43, 27 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment - would it not be better merging the categories to their Falkland Island equivalents, rather than British Empire ones - especially since the British Empire did not exist in 1976 or 1982?
Grutness...wha?00:59, 28 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Interesting... it actually says "The transfer of Hong Kong to China in 1997 marked for many the end of the British Empire." (my italics). I was always under the impression that the end of empire officially came with the independence of India: The official title of the British monarch prior to that time was (in a shortened form) King/Queen of the United Kingdom and her domains and territories, and Emperor/Empress of India. As such, after India's independence, George VI was no longer an Emperor, and thus Britain no longer had an empire.
Grutness...wha?01:55, 29 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Criticism accepted. However, the gradual dismantling of the empire since WWII has meant that the term has hardly been used (save historically) since the 1960s, when most major colonies achieved independence. I wonder whether the appropriate general parent for British possessions outside the British Isles might not be "British colonies".
Peterkingiron (
talk)
16:48, 8 April 2018 (UTC)reply
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