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July 19

Category:Diplomatic missions in Harris County, Texas

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering 20:03, 5 August 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only contains Category:Diplomatic missions in Houston, and no pages. Looking at the subcategories of Category:Diplomatic missions in the United States, none of them are indexed by county, only by city where applicable. MBD123 ( talk) 22:02, 19 July 2018 (UTC) reply

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Category:Urban sprawl

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The result of the discussion was:  Relisted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 August 16#Category:Urban sprawl. xplicit 03:52, 16 August 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: We have two articles on this subject one called urban sprawl the other peri-urbanisation; the former is cited as the topic article for the category. In the introduction to that article it is noted that the term "urban sprawl" is problematic, even pejorative. ("The term urban sprawl is highly politicized, and almost always has negative connotations. It is criticized for causing environmental degradation, and intensifying segregation and undermining the vitality of existing urban areas and attacked on aesthetic grounds. Due to the pejorative meaning of the term, few openly support urban sprawl as such. The term has become a rallying cry for managing urban growth"). In light of that, I suggest we rename the category to the neutral term. Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 18:15, 19 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • "Only few articles" or "several other articles", that may not be so far apart. Anyway, if the category is kept then move/purge the articles that are not about this topic. I do not have a strong opinion about renaming. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:52, 5 August 2018 (UTC) reply

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Category:Radio drama actors

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure). Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:52, 12 August 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Probably a 100% overlap with category:Radio actors; "drama" specifciation seems overdetailed. Only has 4 articles Cnbrb ( talk) 15:06, 19 July 2018 (UTC) reply

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Category:Jupiter trojan stubs

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The result of the discussion was: delete category and upmerge template ( non-admin closure). Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:57, 12 August 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: There's evidently interest in this topic, as all articles are above the stub level. Propose deleting this stub category, and having the template upmerge to ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.›  Category:asteroid stubs. Dawynn ( talk) 14:37, 19 July 2018 (UTC) reply

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Years in France

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The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering 21:17, 26 July 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The French First Republic (1792-1804) and French Third Republic (1870-1940) are not past countries, they are past political regimes of an extant country, France. Years categories before, in-between and after these regimes are all listed in Category:Years in France, and I do not see any purpose of singling out these two subcategories. Note that they are not correctly filled anyway, Years of the French Third Republic starting with Category:1902 in France while the regime started in 1870. Place Clichy ( talk) 13:55, 19 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Merge; the nominator makes a good argument, and aside from Tim's argument, I can't see why someone would think these ones to be helpful. I agree with the nominator's response; having separate trees to reflect territorial changes is not normal, and making it normal would be quite unhelpful. Consider Category:Years in Poland, for example; we have a single tree that embraces the time before the merger with Lithuania, between the merger and the First Partition, between the First and Second Partitions, between the Second and Third Partitions, the Congress period, between independence and the Second World War, and after the Second World War. The solution is to put things in the category for where they were at the time: something in Vilnius in 1924 belongs in "Poland in 1924" and in 1994 belongs in "Lithuania in 1994"; something in Wheeling in 1857 and 1867 belongs in "Virginia in 1857" and "West Virginia in 1867", etc. Nyttend ( talk) 22:20, 19 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Merge; An unhelpful subcategory. Rathfelder ( talk) 10:19, 20 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Merge in addition all the subtree needs to be tagged and merged. Why do we have Category:1795 in the French First Republic and Category:1795 in France when they are one and the same? Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 18:03, 23 July 2018 (UTC) reply

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Category:Economic history of the United States-related lists

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 08:46, 26 July 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: In line with super category tree. Shyamsunder ( talk) 03:05, 19 July 2018 (UTC) reply

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Category:Thibodaux Senators

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The result of the discussion was: No consensus. Timrollpickering 17:11, 15 August 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Defunct minor league team category with just two entries and unlikely to get more. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 19:13, 7 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, xplicit 01:04, 19 July 2018 (UTC) reply

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Category:Arab people

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 08:49, 26 July 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The main article is Arabs, and Arab people is a redirect to it. As far as I know, we don't generally use "people" when the demonym is commonly and unambiguously used to refer to the people in question, e.g. Category:Ancient Greeks rather than the redirect Category:Ancient Greek people. Nyttend ( talk) 00:10, 19 July 2018 (UTC) reply

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July 19

Category:Diplomatic missions in Harris County, Texas

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering 20:03, 5 August 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only contains Category:Diplomatic missions in Houston, and no pages. Looking at the subcategories of Category:Diplomatic missions in the United States, none of them are indexed by county, only by city where applicable. MBD123 ( talk) 22:02, 19 July 2018 (UTC) reply

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Category:Urban sprawl

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:  Relisted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 August 16#Category:Urban sprawl. xplicit 03:52, 16 August 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: We have two articles on this subject one called urban sprawl the other peri-urbanisation; the former is cited as the topic article for the category. In the introduction to that article it is noted that the term "urban sprawl" is problematic, even pejorative. ("The term urban sprawl is highly politicized, and almost always has negative connotations. It is criticized for causing environmental degradation, and intensifying segregation and undermining the vitality of existing urban areas and attacked on aesthetic grounds. Due to the pejorative meaning of the term, few openly support urban sprawl as such. The term has become a rallying cry for managing urban growth"). In light of that, I suggest we rename the category to the neutral term. Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 18:15, 19 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • "Only few articles" or "several other articles", that may not be so far apart. Anyway, if the category is kept then move/purge the articles that are not about this topic. I do not have a strong opinion about renaming. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:52, 5 August 2018 (UTC) reply

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Category:Radio drama actors

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure). Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:52, 12 August 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Probably a 100% overlap with category:Radio actors; "drama" specifciation seems overdetailed. Only has 4 articles Cnbrb ( talk) 15:06, 19 July 2018 (UTC) reply

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Category:Jupiter trojan stubs

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The result of the discussion was: delete category and upmerge template ( non-admin closure). Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:57, 12 August 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: There's evidently interest in this topic, as all articles are above the stub level. Propose deleting this stub category, and having the template upmerge to ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.›  Category:asteroid stubs. Dawynn ( talk) 14:37, 19 July 2018 (UTC) reply

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Years in France

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering 21:17, 26 July 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The French First Republic (1792-1804) and French Third Republic (1870-1940) are not past countries, they are past political regimes of an extant country, France. Years categories before, in-between and after these regimes are all listed in Category:Years in France, and I do not see any purpose of singling out these two subcategories. Note that they are not correctly filled anyway, Years of the French Third Republic starting with Category:1902 in France while the regime started in 1870. Place Clichy ( talk) 13:55, 19 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Merge; the nominator makes a good argument, and aside from Tim's argument, I can't see why someone would think these ones to be helpful. I agree with the nominator's response; having separate trees to reflect territorial changes is not normal, and making it normal would be quite unhelpful. Consider Category:Years in Poland, for example; we have a single tree that embraces the time before the merger with Lithuania, between the merger and the First Partition, between the First and Second Partitions, between the Second and Third Partitions, the Congress period, between independence and the Second World War, and after the Second World War. The solution is to put things in the category for where they were at the time: something in Vilnius in 1924 belongs in "Poland in 1924" and in 1994 belongs in "Lithuania in 1994"; something in Wheeling in 1857 and 1867 belongs in "Virginia in 1857" and "West Virginia in 1867", etc. Nyttend ( talk) 22:20, 19 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Merge; An unhelpful subcategory. Rathfelder ( talk) 10:19, 20 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Merge in addition all the subtree needs to be tagged and merged. Why do we have Category:1795 in the French First Republic and Category:1795 in France when they are one and the same? Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 18:03, 23 July 2018 (UTC) reply

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Category:Economic history of the United States-related lists

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 08:46, 26 July 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: In line with super category tree. Shyamsunder ( talk) 03:05, 19 July 2018 (UTC) reply

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Category:Thibodaux Senators

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: No consensus. Timrollpickering 17:11, 15 August 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Defunct minor league team category with just two entries and unlikely to get more. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 19:13, 7 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, xplicit 01:04, 19 July 2018 (UTC) reply

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Arab people

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 08:49, 26 July 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The main article is Arabs, and Arab people is a redirect to it. As far as I know, we don't generally use "people" when the demonym is commonly and unambiguously used to refer to the people in question, e.g. Category:Ancient Greeks rather than the redirect Category:Ancient Greek people. Nyttend ( talk) 00:10, 19 July 2018 (UTC) reply

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