Category:Diplomatic missions in Harris County, Texas
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Merge this and the Houston subcat and Dallas sibling to
Category:Diplomatic missions in Texas. perhaps better
Category:Consulates in Texas, with headnote explaining that it includes consulates-general. The Harris County cat seems to exist because the Pakistani one is near, rather than in, the city. I am not certain that a consulate is strictly a diplomatic mission, since its objective is to deal with the needs of individuals, as opposed to representing a government to a government, the function of an embassy. I would be surprised to learn of any embassies except in (or near) Washington DC and Missions (which are not embassies) to UNO.
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Category:Urban sprawl
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Nominator's rationale: We have two articles on this subject one called
urban sprawl the other
peri-urbanisation; the former is cited as the topic article for the category. In the introduction to that article it is noted that the term "urban sprawl" is problematic, even pejorative. ("The term urban sprawl is highly politicized, and almost always has negative connotations. It is criticized for causing environmental degradation, and intensifying segregation and undermining the vitality of existing urban areas and attacked on aesthetic grounds. Due to the pejorative meaning of the term, few openly support urban sprawl as such. The term has become a rallying cry for managing urban growth"). In light of that, I suggest we rename the category to the neutral term.
Carlossuarez46 (
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18:15, 19 July 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose merge – on my reading, several other member articles prominently mention "urban sprawl" as a defining aspect of their own topic. I don't remember coming across "peri-urban" before, but it is used in a few dozen Wikipedia articles, so perhaps renaming is appropriate. –
FayenaticLondon22:24, 1 August 2018 (UTC)reply
"Only few articles" or "several other articles", that may not be so far apart. Anyway, if the category is kept then move/purge the articles that are not about this topic. I do not have a strong opinion about renaming.
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07:52, 5 August 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Radio drama actors
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Years in France
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Nominator's rationale: The
French First Republic (1792-1804) and
French Third Republic (1870-1940) are not past countries, they are past political regimes of an extant country, France. Years categories before, in-between and after these regimes are all listed in
Category:Years in France, and I do not see any purpose of singling out these two subcategories. Note that they are not correctly filled anyway, Years of the French Third Republic starting with
Category:1902 in France while the regime started in 1870.
Place Clichy (
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13:55, 19 July 2018 (UTC)reply
Borders change often. We don't usually catch up every change by creating an entire new years in country category tree. Plus Mont-Terrible was partly in modern-day France.
Place Clichy (
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16:34, 19 July 2018 (UTC)reply
Merge; the nominator makes a good argument, and aside from Tim's argument, I can't see why someone would think these ones to be helpful. I agree with the nominator's response; having separate trees to reflect territorial changes is not normal, and making it normal would be quite unhelpful. Consider
Category:Years in Poland, for example; we have a single tree that embraces the time before the merger with Lithuania, between the merger and the First Partition, between the First and Second Partitions, between the Second and Third Partitions, the Congress period, between independence and the Second World War, and after the Second World War. The solution is to put things in the category for where they were at the time: something in Vilnius in 1924 belongs in "Poland in 1924" and in 1994 belongs in "Lithuania in 1994"; something in Wheeling in 1857 and 1867 belongs in "Virginia in 1857" and "West Virginia in 1867", etc.
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22:20, 19 July 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Economic history of the United States-related lists
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Rename. Aside from the super category tree, the current name is hard to parse (a
garden-path sentence), initially reading as if this covers the economic history of lists that are related to the United States.
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05:26, 19 July 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Thibodaux Senators
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Nominator's rationale: Defunct minor league team category with just two entries and unlikely to get more.
...William, is the complaint department really on
the roof?19:13, 7 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep It has enough topics to keep. This category brings order to the topic and should be kept. If you want Wikipedia to become less organized and harder to use, then delete it.
spatms Talk:
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Category:Arab people
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Category:Diplomatic missions in Harris County, Texas
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Merge this and the Houston subcat and Dallas sibling to
Category:Diplomatic missions in Texas. perhaps better
Category:Consulates in Texas, with headnote explaining that it includes consulates-general. The Harris County cat seems to exist because the Pakistani one is near, rather than in, the city. I am not certain that a consulate is strictly a diplomatic mission, since its objective is to deal with the needs of individuals, as opposed to representing a government to a government, the function of an embassy. I would be surprised to learn of any embassies except in (or near) Washington DC and Missions (which are not embassies) to UNO.
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17:12, 20 July 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Urban sprawl
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Nominator's rationale: We have two articles on this subject one called
urban sprawl the other
peri-urbanisation; the former is cited as the topic article for the category. In the introduction to that article it is noted that the term "urban sprawl" is problematic, even pejorative. ("The term urban sprawl is highly politicized, and almost always has negative connotations. It is criticized for causing environmental degradation, and intensifying segregation and undermining the vitality of existing urban areas and attacked on aesthetic grounds. Due to the pejorative meaning of the term, few openly support urban sprawl as such. The term has become a rallying cry for managing urban growth"). In light of that, I suggest we rename the category to the neutral term.
Carlossuarez46 (
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18:15, 19 July 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose merge – on my reading, several other member articles prominently mention "urban sprawl" as a defining aspect of their own topic. I don't remember coming across "peri-urban" before, but it is used in a few dozen Wikipedia articles, so perhaps renaming is appropriate. –
FayenaticLondon22:24, 1 August 2018 (UTC)reply
"Only few articles" or "several other articles", that may not be so far apart. Anyway, if the category is kept then move/purge the articles that are not about this topic. I do not have a strong opinion about renaming.
Marcocapelle (
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07:52, 5 August 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Radio drama actors
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Years in France
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Nominator's rationale: The
French First Republic (1792-1804) and
French Third Republic (1870-1940) are not past countries, they are past political regimes of an extant country, France. Years categories before, in-between and after these regimes are all listed in
Category:Years in France, and I do not see any purpose of singling out these two subcategories. Note that they are not correctly filled anyway, Years of the French Third Republic starting with
Category:1902 in France while the regime started in 1870.
Place Clichy (
talk)
13:55, 19 July 2018 (UTC)reply
Borders change often. We don't usually catch up every change by creating an entire new years in country category tree. Plus Mont-Terrible was partly in modern-day France.
Place Clichy (
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16:34, 19 July 2018 (UTC)reply
Merge; the nominator makes a good argument, and aside from Tim's argument, I can't see why someone would think these ones to be helpful. I agree with the nominator's response; having separate trees to reflect territorial changes is not normal, and making it normal would be quite unhelpful. Consider
Category:Years in Poland, for example; we have a single tree that embraces the time before the merger with Lithuania, between the merger and the First Partition, between the First and Second Partitions, between the Second and Third Partitions, the Congress period, between independence and the Second World War, and after the Second World War. The solution is to put things in the category for where they were at the time: something in Vilnius in 1924 belongs in "Poland in 1924" and in 1994 belongs in "Lithuania in 1994"; something in Wheeling in 1857 and 1867 belongs in "Virginia in 1857" and "West Virginia in 1867", etc.
Nyttend (
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22:20, 19 July 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Economic history of the United States-related lists
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Rename. Aside from the super category tree, the current name is hard to parse (a
garden-path sentence), initially reading as if this covers the economic history of lists that are related to the United States.
Nyttend (
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05:26, 19 July 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Thibodaux Senators
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Nominator's rationale: Defunct minor league team category with just two entries and unlikely to get more.
...William, is the complaint department really on
the roof?19:13, 7 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep It has enough topics to keep. This category brings order to the topic and should be kept. If you want Wikipedia to become less organized and harder to use, then delete it.
spatms Talk:
spatms17:43, 9 May 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Arab people
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