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- The result of the discussion was: merge (
non-admin closure).
Marcocapelle (
talk)
06:53, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Kiev culture to Category:Culture in Kiev
- Nominator's rationale: Duplicate. "Culture in Foo" is the convention of Category:Culture by city in Ukraine. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 22:40, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- Support Duplicate category with identical scope. Dimadick ( talk) 21:49, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure). Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:51, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Too few stations to sustain a navbox (which I recycled and used elsewhere), and too few stations to sustain a category. Raymie ( t • c) 22:19, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete all. ( non-admin closure) Armbrust The Homunculus 14:21, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
- Propose deleting
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- Nominator's rationale: Previously discussed at WPVG. "X console games by genre" is an overcategorization ( overlapping, narrow scopes). We currently cat by "X console" and by "X genre games", and since many games have more than one genre and are released for more than one console, the consensus at WPVG is that the naming under discussion is overkill. czar 19:43, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- Delete, per nom (and make sure the articles do end up in the correct genre categories afterwards, ie don't just delete GameCube fighting games without making sure the articles still are in the general fighting games category). Same applies for
Category:Nintendo DS games by genre and its sub-categories - is it possible to add them onto the current discussion or does a new one have to be opened for them?--
IDV
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21:32, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- Delete with TLC paid per the paranthetical above... obviously there was a purpose to these along genre lines so make sure that none get left out. ComicsAreJustAllRight ( talk) 08:53, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
Oppose as proposed.I agree that this is overcategorisation, but the categories should be merged to all parents rather than just deleted. The nomination should list the merge targets, rather than leaving it to a closer to guess the nominator's intent. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 22:43, 3 March 2017 (UTC)- It was my understanding that they already are in the parent categories, specifically both
Category:Nintendo 64 games or
Category:GameCube games and whatever genre category, like
Category:First-person shooters. In other words, these categories appear in addition to their parent ones. This looks to be the case checking a random sample of pages. I may be wrong. —
HELLKNOWZ ▎
TALK
17:35, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- Yep, @
BrownHairedGirl, every one I checked was already in the existing/proper categories (as they would need to be even if the nominated cats continued to exist). Hence the rationale for deletion
czar
18:14, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- @
Czar and
Hellknowz: thanks for clarifying that. Per
WP:SUBCAT, they should not have already been in the other categories, but if they all are, then merger isn't needed, so I have struck my oppose. That should have been set out in the nomination. -
BrownHairedGirl
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contribs)
22:31, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- I thought it was implied with the "X cat" statement in the nom czar 22:39, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- @
Czar and
Hellknowz: thanks for clarifying that. Per
WP:SUBCAT, they should not have already been in the other categories, but if they all are, then merger isn't needed, so I have struck my oppose. That should have been set out in the nomination. -
BrownHairedGirl
(talk) • (
contribs)
22:31, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- Yep, @
BrownHairedGirl, every one I checked was already in the existing/proper categories (as they would need to be even if the nominated cats continued to exist). Hence the rationale for deletion
czar
18:14, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- It was my understanding that they already are in the parent categories, specifically both
Category:Nintendo 64 games or
Category:GameCube games and whatever genre category, like
Category:First-person shooters. In other words, these categories appear in addition to their parent ones. This looks to be the case checking a random sample of pages. I may be wrong. —
HELLKNOWZ ▎
TALK
17:35, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- Delete all as needlessly specific WP:CROSSCAT categorization. We don't do this for other game platform categories. One of the main reasons is that there can be multiple genres and games very often have multiple platforms. — HELLKNOWZ ▎ TALK 17:35, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- Delete all - As already noted by others, these are overcategorization, and if the basic "Games in X genre for X platform" format was applied to every possible combination, some articles would end up with dozens of these categories.-- Martin IIIa ( talk) 21:10, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- Delete all Explained my reasoning for these contributing to overcategorisation in the WPVG discussion. -- The1337gamer ( talk) 20:06, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
- Comment: But
Category:Nintendo DS games by genre...? --
A Sword in the Wind (
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14:34, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- Should very likely also be CfDed separately. I would assume the nominator and commenters were not aware of these. It's possible there are others. — HELLKNOWZ ▎ TALK 14:50, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- Delete all - At this point, reasons start to become redundant, but this seems to me like a case of overcategorization. And as already stated, make sure the articles end up in their respective categories. Blorper234 ( talk) 03:17, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. ( non-admin closure) Armbrust The Homunculus 14:37, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:SMALLCAT, only contains an eponymous article and a subcategory and the subcategory is linked to the article already. No need to merge, the article is already in the relevant categories. Marcocapelle ( talk) 00:37, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- Delete - Completely redundant to its subcategory.-- Martin IIIa ( talk) 21:16, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: no consensus. ( non-admin closure) Armbrust The Homunculus 14:40, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: delete as almost a duplicate of Category:Aragonese queen consorts. The very few countesses of Barcelona in this category who weren't queen consort of Aragon, like Ermesinde of Carcassonne, may be moved to Category:County of Barcelona, Category:Catalan nobility and Category:People from Barcelona. Marcocapelle ( talk) 00:24, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- Keep This is similar to the Prince of Wales argument yesterday. While most PoW's went on to become King, a few did not. Nevertheless, we have a PoW category. The duplication is not a problem in the case of PoW so why should it be a problem for Countesses of Barcelona? In fact, there is not even a legal link between the two titles as it was not a unitary state. Aragon and Barcelona were only in personal union through the Crown of Aragon, so there is that extra degree of separation. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 12:14, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- The situation is not quite similar. Category:Princes of Wales contains no less than 13 articles that are not about later kings. So the overlap is fairly limited in that case. In the case of Aragon and Barcelona, the personal union is exactly implying the overlap. Marcocapelle ( talk) 23:13, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (
non-admin closure).
Marcocapelle (
talk)
06:53, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Kiev culture to Category:Culture in Kiev
- Nominator's rationale: Duplicate. "Culture in Foo" is the convention of Category:Culture by city in Ukraine. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 22:40, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- Support Duplicate category with identical scope. Dimadick ( talk) 21:49, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure). Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:51, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Too few stations to sustain a navbox (which I recycled and used elsewhere), and too few stations to sustain a category. Raymie ( t • c) 22:19, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
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- The result of the discussion was: delete all. ( non-admin closure) Armbrust The Homunculus 14:21, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
- Propose deleting
Category:Nintendo 64 games by genre (
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history |
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- Propose deleting
Category:GameCube games by genre (
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- Propose deleting
Category:Nintendo 64 first-person shooter games (
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Category:Nintendo 64 platform games (
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Category:Nintendo 64 racing games (
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Category:Nintendo 64 role-playing games (
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Category:Nintendo 64 sports games (
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Category:GameCube fighting games (
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Category:GameCube first-person shooters (
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Category:GameCube platform games (
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Category:GameCube role-playing games (
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Category:Nintendo 64 games by genre (
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- Nominator's rationale: Previously discussed at WPVG. "X console games by genre" is an overcategorization ( overlapping, narrow scopes). We currently cat by "X console" and by "X genre games", and since many games have more than one genre and are released for more than one console, the consensus at WPVG is that the naming under discussion is overkill. czar 19:43, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- Delete, per nom (and make sure the articles do end up in the correct genre categories afterwards, ie don't just delete GameCube fighting games without making sure the articles still are in the general fighting games category). Same applies for
Category:Nintendo DS games by genre and its sub-categories - is it possible to add them onto the current discussion or does a new one have to be opened for them?--
IDV
talk
21:32, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- Delete with TLC paid per the paranthetical above... obviously there was a purpose to these along genre lines so make sure that none get left out. ComicsAreJustAllRight ( talk) 08:53, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
Oppose as proposed.I agree that this is overcategorisation, but the categories should be merged to all parents rather than just deleted. The nomination should list the merge targets, rather than leaving it to a closer to guess the nominator's intent. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 22:43, 3 March 2017 (UTC)- It was my understanding that they already are in the parent categories, specifically both
Category:Nintendo 64 games or
Category:GameCube games and whatever genre category, like
Category:First-person shooters. In other words, these categories appear in addition to their parent ones. This looks to be the case checking a random sample of pages. I may be wrong. —
HELLKNOWZ ▎
TALK
17:35, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- Yep, @
BrownHairedGirl, every one I checked was already in the existing/proper categories (as they would need to be even if the nominated cats continued to exist). Hence the rationale for deletion
czar
18:14, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- @
Czar and
Hellknowz: thanks for clarifying that. Per
WP:SUBCAT, they should not have already been in the other categories, but if they all are, then merger isn't needed, so I have struck my oppose. That should have been set out in the nomination. -
BrownHairedGirl
(talk) • (
contribs)
22:31, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- I thought it was implied with the "X cat" statement in the nom czar 22:39, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- @
Czar and
Hellknowz: thanks for clarifying that. Per
WP:SUBCAT, they should not have already been in the other categories, but if they all are, then merger isn't needed, so I have struck my oppose. That should have been set out in the nomination. -
BrownHairedGirl
(talk) • (
contribs)
22:31, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- Yep, @
BrownHairedGirl, every one I checked was already in the existing/proper categories (as they would need to be even if the nominated cats continued to exist). Hence the rationale for deletion
czar
18:14, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- It was my understanding that they already are in the parent categories, specifically both
Category:Nintendo 64 games or
Category:GameCube games and whatever genre category, like
Category:First-person shooters. In other words, these categories appear in addition to their parent ones. This looks to be the case checking a random sample of pages. I may be wrong. —
HELLKNOWZ ▎
TALK
17:35, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- Delete all as needlessly specific WP:CROSSCAT categorization. We don't do this for other game platform categories. One of the main reasons is that there can be multiple genres and games very often have multiple platforms. — HELLKNOWZ ▎ TALK 17:35, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- Delete all - As already noted by others, these are overcategorization, and if the basic "Games in X genre for X platform" format was applied to every possible combination, some articles would end up with dozens of these categories.-- Martin IIIa ( talk) 21:10, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- Delete all Explained my reasoning for these contributing to overcategorisation in the WPVG discussion. -- The1337gamer ( talk) 20:06, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
- Comment: But
Category:Nintendo DS games by genre...? --
A Sword in the Wind (
talk |
changes)
14:34, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- Should very likely also be CfDed separately. I would assume the nominator and commenters were not aware of these. It's possible there are others. — HELLKNOWZ ▎ TALK 14:50, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- Delete all - At this point, reasons start to become redundant, but this seems to me like a case of overcategorization. And as already stated, make sure the articles end up in their respective categories. Blorper234 ( talk) 03:17, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. ( non-admin closure) Armbrust The Homunculus 14:37, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:SMALLCAT, only contains an eponymous article and a subcategory and the subcategory is linked to the article already. No need to merge, the article is already in the relevant categories. Marcocapelle ( talk) 00:37, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- Delete - Completely redundant to its subcategory.-- Martin IIIa ( talk) 21:16, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: no consensus. ( non-admin closure) Armbrust The Homunculus 14:40, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: delete as almost a duplicate of Category:Aragonese queen consorts. The very few countesses of Barcelona in this category who weren't queen consort of Aragon, like Ermesinde of Carcassonne, may be moved to Category:County of Barcelona, Category:Catalan nobility and Category:People from Barcelona. Marcocapelle ( talk) 00:24, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- Keep This is similar to the Prince of Wales argument yesterday. While most PoW's went on to become King, a few did not. Nevertheless, we have a PoW category. The duplication is not a problem in the case of PoW so why should it be a problem for Countesses of Barcelona? In fact, there is not even a legal link between the two titles as it was not a unitary state. Aragon and Barcelona were only in personal union through the Crown of Aragon, so there is that extra degree of separation. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 12:14, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- The situation is not quite similar. Category:Princes of Wales contains no less than 13 articles that are not about later kings. So the overlap is fairly limited in that case. In the case of Aragon and Barcelona, the personal union is exactly implying the overlap. Marcocapelle ( talk) 23:13, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
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