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Nominator's rationale: Only one member, low chance of expansion
Editor2020 (
talk) 23:46, 30 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete -- no members at this time. Implausible category anyway.
K.e.coffman (
talk) 05:23, 1 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete. Only plausible entry was removed for lack of reliable sources to confirm category membership. Yet another porn person by religion category with vague or unverifiable inclusion criteria.
• Gene93k (
talk) 12:11, 1 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete seems to be a shaming category, like divorced Catholics as someone supposes being religious (however one can define that non-subjectively) is somehow incompatible with being a porn actress. Not all who kneel pray.
Carlossuarez46 (
talk) 23:22, 1 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete Per
WP:TRIVIALCAT. Feel free to categorize people by their occupation and religion, but the intersection of the two doesn't seem defining.
RevelationDirect (
talk) 01:51, 2 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete - Pointless category - It'd be like creating "Non-Religious pornographic film actresses", Serves no useful purpose here, Better off deleted. –
Davey2010Talk 23:36, 6 December 2016 (UTC)reply
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Category:Baptist
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Nominator's rationale: I think "Baptist Christianity" is a better name for this category. This category is for the "denomination" or religious group as a whole. Other comparable categories are
Category:Lutheranism,
Category:Presbyterianism, etc., but there is no "Baptistism". The main article is
Baptists, but
Category:Baptists is used for the adherents. "Baptist" is either an adjective, or if it is a noun, it describes an adherent. We don't want to adopt the adherent meaning of "Baptist" here, so we need to adopt the adjectival meaning, which means we also need a noun, which can be "Christianity". Some of the subcategories already use this phrasing, eg,
Category:Baptist Christianity in India and
Category:Baptist Christianity in North America (and its many subcatgories).
Good Ol’factory(talk) 22:34, 30 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment Normally I'd oppose because
Baptists is the main article and the categories should blindly follow. But
Category:Baptists is the biography sub-category.
RevelationDirect (
talk) 01:53, 2 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Weak keep, while I understand the rationale, the proposed name would be a term that is not commonly used in the real world.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 08:20, 2 December 2016 (UTC)reply
See new vote in discussion below.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 19:04, 5 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Support, I can't think of a better name for this either. –
FayenaticLondon 18:56, 2 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment (nom). Note that
Category:Baptists has not been nominated, so if the alternative is to be done, it will probably require a follow-up nomination.
Good Ol’factory(talk) 14:44, 6 December 2016 (UTC)reply
I've added a CfD template to
Category:Baptists just now. This means that this discussion should stay open for at least another week.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 17:58, 6 December 2016 (UTC)reply
I think it will probably be easiest (or at least the most straightforward, in an explaining-to-everyone-what's-going-on sense) for this discussion to be closed. That way, a discussion including all of the many subcategories that already use "Baptist Christianity in FOO" can be nominated along with all the others discussed above that need to be. There are 39 alone within
Category:Baptist Christianity in the United States by state. But whatever the closer feels comfortable doing is OK with me.
Good Ol’factory(talk) 23:16, 6 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment: I still think the original nomination is the best idea, after considering the alternative proposals. Good Olfactory has pointed out the confusion that could arise from them. Although it initially sounds viable to use "Baptists (denomination)", in the loose sense of denomination i.e. a branch of Christianity, this is not wholly appropriate, as many local Baptist churches are independent and self-governing, not part of a denomination in the sense of a hierarchical or centrally-directed organisation. –
FayenaticLondon 13:04, 2 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Everyone in this discussion had fair arguments and now for the closer it's a matter of weighing these arguments. I'd fully understand that the objection that I raised during the discussion that the term "Baptist Christianity" isn't everyday language will get less weight, after all the term has functioned well within
Category:Baptist Christianity in the United States for almost three years now, while most Baptists live in the United States. On top of that, I think it's better to adopt the original nomination than to keep things unchanged.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 17:06, 3 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Support the original proposal. "Baptist Christianity" would use the more
WP:NATURAL language and it'd be easier to be consistent with the subcats. --
Tavix(
talk) 01:04, 5 January 2017 (UTC)reply
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Category:Fictional gastropoda
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Category:Opponents of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict
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Nominator's rationale: This is a nonsense category. Surely everybody is an "Opponent of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict", regardless of their actual position on the rights and wrongs of each side's position and actions. RolandR (
talk) 18:30, 30 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete due to category opaqueness per nom. CaradhrasAiguo (
talk) 19:01, 30 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete nonsensical per RolandR.
Plot Spoiler (
talk) 02:23, 2 December 2016 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale: Only one member, low chance of expansion
Editor2020 (
talk) 23:46, 30 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete -- no members at this time. Implausible category anyway.
K.e.coffman (
talk) 05:23, 1 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete. Only plausible entry was removed for lack of reliable sources to confirm category membership. Yet another porn person by religion category with vague or unverifiable inclusion criteria.
• Gene93k (
talk) 12:11, 1 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete seems to be a shaming category, like divorced Catholics as someone supposes being religious (however one can define that non-subjectively) is somehow incompatible with being a porn actress. Not all who kneel pray.
Carlossuarez46 (
talk) 23:22, 1 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete Per
WP:TRIVIALCAT. Feel free to categorize people by their occupation and religion, but the intersection of the two doesn't seem defining.
RevelationDirect (
talk) 01:51, 2 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete - Pointless category - It'd be like creating "Non-Religious pornographic film actresses", Serves no useful purpose here, Better off deleted. –
Davey2010Talk 23:36, 6 December 2016 (UTC)reply
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Category:Baptist
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Nominator's rationale: I think "Baptist Christianity" is a better name for this category. This category is for the "denomination" or religious group as a whole. Other comparable categories are
Category:Lutheranism,
Category:Presbyterianism, etc., but there is no "Baptistism". The main article is
Baptists, but
Category:Baptists is used for the adherents. "Baptist" is either an adjective, or if it is a noun, it describes an adherent. We don't want to adopt the adherent meaning of "Baptist" here, so we need to adopt the adjectival meaning, which means we also need a noun, which can be "Christianity". Some of the subcategories already use this phrasing, eg,
Category:Baptist Christianity in India and
Category:Baptist Christianity in North America (and its many subcatgories).
Good Ol’factory(talk) 22:34, 30 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment Normally I'd oppose because
Baptists is the main article and the categories should blindly follow. But
Category:Baptists is the biography sub-category.
RevelationDirect (
talk) 01:53, 2 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Weak keep, while I understand the rationale, the proposed name would be a term that is not commonly used in the real world.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 08:20, 2 December 2016 (UTC)reply
See new vote in discussion below.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 19:04, 5 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Support, I can't think of a better name for this either. –
FayenaticLondon 18:56, 2 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment (nom). Note that
Category:Baptists has not been nominated, so if the alternative is to be done, it will probably require a follow-up nomination.
Good Ol’factory(talk) 14:44, 6 December 2016 (UTC)reply
I've added a CfD template to
Category:Baptists just now. This means that this discussion should stay open for at least another week.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 17:58, 6 December 2016 (UTC)reply
I think it will probably be easiest (or at least the most straightforward, in an explaining-to-everyone-what's-going-on sense) for this discussion to be closed. That way, a discussion including all of the many subcategories that already use "Baptist Christianity in FOO" can be nominated along with all the others discussed above that need to be. There are 39 alone within
Category:Baptist Christianity in the United States by state. But whatever the closer feels comfortable doing is OK with me.
Good Ol’factory(talk) 23:16, 6 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment: I still think the original nomination is the best idea, after considering the alternative proposals. Good Olfactory has pointed out the confusion that could arise from them. Although it initially sounds viable to use "Baptists (denomination)", in the loose sense of denomination i.e. a branch of Christianity, this is not wholly appropriate, as many local Baptist churches are independent and self-governing, not part of a denomination in the sense of a hierarchical or centrally-directed organisation. –
FayenaticLondon 13:04, 2 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Everyone in this discussion had fair arguments and now for the closer it's a matter of weighing these arguments. I'd fully understand that the objection that I raised during the discussion that the term "Baptist Christianity" isn't everyday language will get less weight, after all the term has functioned well within
Category:Baptist Christianity in the United States for almost three years now, while most Baptists live in the United States. On top of that, I think it's better to adopt the original nomination than to keep things unchanged.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 17:06, 3 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Support the original proposal. "Baptist Christianity" would use the more
WP:NATURAL language and it'd be easier to be consistent with the subcats. --
Tavix(
talk) 01:04, 5 January 2017 (UTC)reply
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Category:Fictional gastropoda
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Category:Opponents of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict
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Nominator's rationale: This is a nonsense category. Surely everybody is an "Opponent of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict", regardless of their actual position on the rights and wrongs of each side's position and actions. RolandR (
talk) 18:30, 30 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete due to category opaqueness per nom. CaradhrasAiguo (
talk) 19:01, 30 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete nonsensical per RolandR.
Plot Spoiler (
talk) 02:23, 2 December 2016 (UTC)reply
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