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Ancient and medieval ships
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The result of the discussion was:merge where not in a more specific sub-cat already. As for the comparison with biographies: those were the subject of a specific RfC, which decided to reinstate year-specific categories for births and deaths (where known). However, small categories for many other types of events and works have been merged. –
FayenaticLondon17:14, 30 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, until 1400 there are too few notable ships; ancient and medieval categories are more robust. Keep 15th century category though.
Marcocapelle (
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20:42, 15 November 2016 (UTC)reply
no merge "Medieval" is not tied to any specific time-frame. The Medieval period various form region to region and culture to culture. In Scandinavia (and the Nordic countries), Medieval times first commenced in the 11th century for example. Look it up.
RhinoMind (
talk)
22:05, 16 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Hi. The 7th century was in the
Nordic Iron Age. Btw., listing the
Viking Age as a Medieval period, is culturally biassed. Viewed from a Scandinavian POV it is not part of medieval times.
Academic journals makes a clear distinction. However, the subject might perhaps be subject to difference of opinions among academics?
RhinoMind (
talk)
23:57, 21 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Merge per nom as these are small categories. And while definitions of the Middle Ages differ among sources, the main article
Middle Ages defines it as the period from the 5th century to the 15th century. Note however that there is an overlap with
Late Antiquity, the period from the 3rd to the 7th century.
Dimadick (
talk)
08:59, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
No merge. These are part of the extensive year of launch cats for ships; 1897 Ships etc. In the same manner, WP Bio has 'year of birth'.
Brad (
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10:02, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Merge per nom -- A 1897 category is reasonable, but there is too little content to have anything but one or two pre-1400 categories. If preferred we could make the categories for pre-400 AD and 400-1400 AD, bit that detail is probably better in a headnote.
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18:55, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
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Category:Politicians from Helmville, Montana
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Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT. Small community with only two entries. Also upmerge to Montana politicians.
A couple of other things. Helmsville has a population of 26 is not likely to have other people from it. A merge to 'People from Powell County, Montana' would be more appropriate and deletion of the category 'People from Helmville, Montana'.
...William, is the complaint department really on
the roof?15:34, 15 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Upmerge to
Category:People from Powell County, Montana. A politicians subcat is not needed for a town with only two politicians to file in it; this is done for large cities with a lot of politicians to categorize, and is not an automatic thing that every city or town on the planet gets to have — but with no other contents besides this subcategory,
Category:People from Helmville, Montana would still be a SMALLCAT even with these people upmerged. So it should be deleted as well, because "People from" isn't a thing that every town automatically gets either: it's still a thing that a place gets only when there are a reasonable (i.e. >2) number of people from there with Wikipedia articles to file in it.
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Category:Politicians from Harwich, Massachusetts
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Upmerge per nom. Every place does not automatically get one of these the moment there's one politician from that place to file in it — large cities with a lot of politicians to categorize can have one, but small towns with just one or two cannot. Note also that deletion of this category will also empty out
Category:People from Harwich, Massachusetts, by occupation, so that should also be batched along with this.
Bearcat (
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18:43, 15 November 2016 (UTC)reply
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Category:Lists of awards by South Korean musicians
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Oppose The singular form is harder to parse, and it implies that the scope is all lists of awards, organized by which South Korean musician recieved them, which doesn't make sense.
Pppery19:34, 19 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose while acknowledging C2C. I'd rather see this close as "no consensus" and the larger nomination discussed by
Marcocapelle. The merge target here is poorly worded. At first, second, and third glances, I would assume it's a typo. ~
Rob13Talk07:15, 22 January 2017 (UTC)reply
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Ancient and medieval ships
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The result of the discussion was:merge where not in a more specific sub-cat already. As for the comparison with biographies: those were the subject of a specific RfC, which decided to reinstate year-specific categories for births and deaths (where known). However, small categories for many other types of events and works have been merged. –
FayenaticLondon17:14, 30 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, until 1400 there are too few notable ships; ancient and medieval categories are more robust. Keep 15th century category though.
Marcocapelle (
talk)
20:42, 15 November 2016 (UTC)reply
no merge "Medieval" is not tied to any specific time-frame. The Medieval period various form region to region and culture to culture. In Scandinavia (and the Nordic countries), Medieval times first commenced in the 11th century for example. Look it up.
RhinoMind (
talk)
22:05, 16 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Hi. The 7th century was in the
Nordic Iron Age. Btw., listing the
Viking Age as a Medieval period, is culturally biassed. Viewed from a Scandinavian POV it is not part of medieval times.
Academic journals makes a clear distinction. However, the subject might perhaps be subject to difference of opinions among academics?
RhinoMind (
talk)
23:57, 21 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Merge per nom as these are small categories. And while definitions of the Middle Ages differ among sources, the main article
Middle Ages defines it as the period from the 5th century to the 15th century. Note however that there is an overlap with
Late Antiquity, the period from the 3rd to the 7th century.
Dimadick (
talk)
08:59, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
No merge. These are part of the extensive year of launch cats for ships; 1897 Ships etc. In the same manner, WP Bio has 'year of birth'.
Brad (
talk)
10:02, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Merge per nom -- A 1897 category is reasonable, but there is too little content to have anything but one or two pre-1400 categories. If preferred we could make the categories for pre-400 AD and 400-1400 AD, bit that detail is probably better in a headnote.
Peterkingiron (
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18:55, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
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Category:Politicians from Helmville, Montana
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Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT. Small community with only two entries. Also upmerge to Montana politicians.
A couple of other things. Helmsville has a population of 26 is not likely to have other people from it. A merge to 'People from Powell County, Montana' would be more appropriate and deletion of the category 'People from Helmville, Montana'.
...William, is the complaint department really on
the roof?15:34, 15 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Upmerge to
Category:People from Powell County, Montana. A politicians subcat is not needed for a town with only two politicians to file in it; this is done for large cities with a lot of politicians to categorize, and is not an automatic thing that every city or town on the planet gets to have — but with no other contents besides this subcategory,
Category:People from Helmville, Montana would still be a SMALLCAT even with these people upmerged. So it should be deleted as well, because "People from" isn't a thing that every town automatically gets either: it's still a thing that a place gets only when there are a reasonable (i.e. >2) number of people from there with Wikipedia articles to file in it.
Bearcat (
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Category:Politicians from Harwich, Massachusetts
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Upmerge per nom. Every place does not automatically get one of these the moment there's one politician from that place to file in it — large cities with a lot of politicians to categorize can have one, but small towns with just one or two cannot. Note also that deletion of this category will also empty out
Category:People from Harwich, Massachusetts, by occupation, so that should also be batched along with this.
Bearcat (
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18:43, 15 November 2016 (UTC)reply
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Category:Lists of awards by South Korean musicians
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Oppose The singular form is harder to parse, and it implies that the scope is all lists of awards, organized by which South Korean musician recieved them, which doesn't make sense.
Pppery19:34, 19 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose while acknowledging C2C. I'd rather see this close as "no consensus" and the larger nomination discussed by
Marcocapelle. The merge target here is poorly worded. At first, second, and third glances, I would assume it's a typo. ~
Rob13Talk07:15, 22 January 2017 (UTC)reply
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