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The result of the discussion was:keep without objection to adding a header explaining the scope of the category (
non-admin closure).
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Religious leaders with criminal convictions (2 C)
Sportspeople convicted of crimes (1 C, 5 P)
Trade union officials convicted of crimes (1 C, 4 P)
I comes to my mind that these categories become defining for public figures, where the public role of the criminal becomes the essential part in the article subject, since the crime becomes part of the public interest. Hence my suggestion.
Staszek Lem (
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This category was created by a valued editor and it doesn't look like he was notified. He should be. @
Good Olfactory:.
Shawn in Montreal (
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Thanks, but not to worry—I was notified via my watchlist. I'm just not sure of what to make of the nomination at this stage so have no comment right now.
Good Ol’factory(talk) 02:47, 17 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment public role is obtuse. Is a sportsperson in a public role. He/she may be a public figure but not since the gladiatorial games, where combantants were owned by the state and trotted out to fulfill the public's bloodlust, sportspersons' roles are not really "public", any more than actors or "trade union officials" and (in most countries) "religious leaders". They are - broadly construed - occupations however.
Carlossuarez46 (
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Keep -- "Role" is perhaps too vague, but might be an option. I would agree that in many occupations categorising people as criminals is NN, so that builder and bus driver categories ought not the be allowed. However in the cases listed crime is at odds with continued performance of their occupational duties. Police officers and judges would lose their jobs if the crime were serious (possibly not for motoring offences).
Peterkingiron (
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In any case, the category statute must clearly say what I said. Otherwise sooner or later some teenager will create :category:Convicted
lunch ladies.
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Category:Gangnam Style
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Nominator's rationale: I don't know if it's
WP:SMALLCAT exactly, but this looks to have very minimal potential for growth. It's better suited to a navbox, which already exists. How many other categories do we have about individual songs? --
BDD (
talk) 22:19, 14 November 2016 (UTC)reply
@
BDD: Maybe it should be merged into its parent categories, then. Would it be possible to
redirect this category to both of its parent categories?
Jarble (
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No particular reason for redirect. there are actually three parent cats. The ones 'Internet memes' and 'South Korean dance' can be easily selectively applied to some articles. E.g.
Hwang Min-woo is hardly an internet meme.
Staszek Lem (
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Fine by me. I don't think it's likely enough a search term/categorization term to really merit a category redirect, but we seem to have become much more accepting of those lately, and it doesn't matter to me here. --
BDD (
talk) 22:31, 14 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Upmerge per nom. Can I go on record as supporting an official policy that we should never have two standalone articles about a song and its music video coexisting alongside each other as separate topics? (Okay, I could defend "Thriller" as an exception. But not this.)
Bearcat (
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Merge somehow. It is a song that gained worldwide fame, but not notable enough to need multiple articles and a category. Perhaps we need to merge some of the articles first.
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Category:Nicknames of criminals
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Nominator's rationale: Misconceived category. We dont have articles about nicknames of criminals. We do have criminals with nicknames.
Staszek Lem (
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Merge back to
Category:Criminals. The only distinction is that these are people whose article used their nickname, rather than their true name.
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Category:Land snails
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Nominator's rationale: The "category Land snails" is completely out of categorization scheme within the Wikiproject Gastropods. Consider, that there already is for example
Category:Lists of molluscs by country. The category name is so vague, that it fits only to article "Land snail", that can be more suitably within
Category:Gastropods, where is only less than 20 articles. It can not be practically and unambiguously used for categorization.
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Delete This category is vast too comprehensive. I agree with the nominator's rationale.
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Category:Songs about professional sports
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Nominator's rationale: Delete / upmerge to
Category:Sporting songs. It's not necessary to distinguish between professional and amateur sports here, and while these are used as anthems in sports, they're not necessarily "about" sports.
BDD (
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Delete and upmerge per Nominator's rationale. --
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Category:Scholars of Islamic jurisprudence, Category:Fiqh scholars
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Nominator's rationale: Looks like these are all about one and the same thing. Sandstein 20:50, 14 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose. I don't think these are the same thing, actually. A
jurist is a judge or a lawyer, who's directly involved in the administration and dispensation of the law, while a scholar of law is a person who merely studies and analyzes the work that the jurists are doing. By comparison, we also have
Category:Legal scholars separately from
Category:Jurists, because the latter are people who do law while the former are people who work at universities to study the work of the latter. It is certainly possible sometimes for a person to do both things — but that's not because they're the same thing, it's because a person can switch focus from one field to the other.
Bearcat (
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@
Bearcat: Well, no: our article "
jurist" does treat this word as a synonym to "scholar of jurisprudence": "A jurist (a word coming from medieval Latin), also known as legal scholar or legal theorist, is someone who researches and studies jurisprudence (theory of law). Such a person can work as an academic, legal writer or law lecturer." And "
fiqh" means "islamic jurisprudence", so "Fiqh scholars" and "Scholars of Islamic jurisprudence" are also just two different terms for the same thing. I therefore maintain that the scope of all three categories is identical. (Disclaimer: I am a lawyer, although not experienced with Islamic law or tradition.) Sandstein 17:15, 15 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Support -- Lawyers and judges may also be scholars, but they may be mere legal hacks. The three items seem to be much the same. A jurist is a scholar of what the law is or should be, rather than a mere practitioner of it.
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Category:LGBT opposition to same-sex marriage
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Nominator's rationale: Poorly conceived category which doesn't actually describe its contents in an accurate or
defining way. Apart from a subcategory for individual people which is listed for deletion below, the only contents here are one queer liberation group which never undertook anti-SSM activities per se but merely didn't opt for participation in the SSM campaign as its primary strategy for LGBT liberation, and one film which also isn't so much anti-SSM per se as it is a critique of the fundamental concept of marriage. So they would both rightly belong in
Category:LGBT criticism of marriage, but they don't represent "opposition" to same-sex marriage in particular.
Bearcat (
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Comment. If
Category:LGBT criticism of marriage exists (which is what I was talking about in my comment below) this category is redundant, although I'm indifferent as to which name is used. Merge together and call it something. –
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Category:LGBT people opposing same-sex marriage
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Nominator's rationale: This is a category which, in a misunderstanding of Wikipedia process, was created and then immediately nominated for deletion by its own creator as a strange and counterintuitive way of getting the entries removed from the parent category
Category:LGBT opposition to same-sex marriage — however, he has since withdrawn the nomination, so I'm resubmitting a new one because the grounds for actually keeping it simply aren't there. Of the six people filed in this category, we have:
Julie Bindel, who is not opposed to legal recognition of same-sex relationships but believes that instead of SSM, the government should just get out of the marriage business entirely and treat everybody equally under the umbrella of
civil partnerships instead of marriage;
David Coburn, who is not opposed to legal recognition of same-sex relationships but argued against an SSM law on the grounds that it wasn't the right time for it yet because society is still too homophobic;
Jo Jordan, who is not opposed to same-sex marriage but voted against an SSM law on the grounds that she had to represent the views of her constituents rather than her own;
Andrew Pierce, who is not opposed to legal recognition of same-sex relationships but argued that civil partnerships were already enough and full SSM simply wasn't necessary;
Mattilda Bernstein Sycamore, who is not opposed to legal recognition of same-sex relationships but argued that the LGBT community had more important priorities to worry about;
Milo Yiannopoulos, literally the only person whose position against SSM would actually justify categorizing him on this basis.
What we have, in other words, is five people who are not opposed to same-sex marriage in principle, but are simply included on the basis of superficial "opposition" without regard to the nuances of their actual positions, and only one person who's in here on the basis of actively opposing the fundamental concept of SSM — and that's simply not a
defining basis for a category.
Bearcat (
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Delete as not useful. There's definitely a political position which holds that gay people shouldn't marry because it's assimilation or something, but that's not this category. –
Roscelese (
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Delete If someone is a topic activist, that may be defining. But categorizing people (including LGBT people) by each position they hold would lead to category clutter.
RevelationDirect (
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Keep, but remove Bindel. Many SSM activists have stated that "separate but equal" treatment for same-sex civil unions isn't really equal (just as
separate but equal treatment for blacks in segregated America wasn't equal), so LGBT people who support a separate class of civil union for same-sex couples still belong in the category because of the notability of that opinion. And it's possible that a much larger number of people belong in the category that none of the commenters above happen to know about. A category of LGBT people who side with the homophobes or transphobes on a major LGBT-rights issue is a notable category and worth keeping, as long as it isn't permanently a category of one.
NeonMerlin 19:32, 28 November 2016 (UTC)reply
That argument doesn't require removing just Bindel; it also requires removing everybody but Pierce, because "separate but equal is good enough" isn't the substance of their arguments either. Coburn, Jordan and Sycamore do not "side with the homophobes"; Coburn was just concerned about the timing, Jordan misread her constituents, and Sycamore just thinks LGBTs shouldn't assimilate into the mainstream at all. Even Yiannopoulos doesn't argue for "separate but equal"; he argues for LGBT people to be stripped of anything even approaching equality and permanently consigned to "second-class citizenship" treatment, because attention-trolling or something.
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Category:Animation companies
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Nominator's rationale: I'm not seeing a functional distinction between the few "companies" listed here -- and the vastly greater number of animation production companies grouped under the preexisting category.
Shawn in Montreal (
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Merge per nom Most film and animation studios are companies in their own right.
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Category:Sports in Washington by sport
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The result of the discussion was:speedy deletewp:G7. –
FayenaticLondon 11:22, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Ambiguously titled and redundant to existing categories. —
swpbT 14:30, 14 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Speedy delete – empty,
blanked by its creator within minutes of creation.
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Category:Chiefs of Nepal police
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Nominator's rationale: The actual title of these officers and of our article about the post. --
Necrothesp (
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Support -- We should use the official name, assuming that this is a correct translation of the Nepali title, rather than an interpretation of it.
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Category:Jewish American opera composers
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Nominator's rationale: Seems like
overcategorization, especially if it's being used to diffuse "American opera composers" (which it currently is). –
Roscelese (
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Delete no
WP:RS showing that Jewish American opera composers compose operas any differently than their gentile American counterparts or, for that matter, their co-religionists from other countries.
Carlossuarez46 (
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Delete as it is now empty. I might have suggesting upmerging also to Jewish American people.
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Category:Years by topic
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The result of the discussion was:keep. Nomination withdrawn. (
non-admin closure)
23W 23:43, 7 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: I'm on a fool's errand to find certain redundant categories, and these two are sort of mindboggling. Category:Years by topic contains subcategories dealing with years in a subject. Ditto with Category:Categories by year. The scope of these two categories seems identical, the only visible difference being that the first category contains subcategories named with the pattern Years in [subject; whereas the second contains subcategories with the pattern Subject] by year. This seems to convey the same thing: to break down a broad topic into years. The only other discussion about these categories was a
couple years ago, and that was to do the opposite of this proposal. Unlike that one, I agree that retaining the status quo of Categories by [magnitude of time would do the least damage.
23W 02:35, 14 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep – as stated in the nom one contains subcategories of the form Years in [subject (ie a subcat scheme for
Category:Years) whereas the other contains subcategories of the form Subject] by year (ie a subcat scheme for
Category:Categories). So they are quite different and a merge would be inadvisable.
Oculi (
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Keep, while categories "in" may be ambiguous (as noted), categories "by" (as nominated) certainly aren't ambiguous. In this case, years by topic are categories about years organised by topic; while categories by year are about categories organised by year. At most we might change 'Categories by year' to 'Topics by year'.
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The result of the discussion was:keep without objection to adding a header explaining the scope of the category (
non-admin closure).
Marcocapelle (
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Religious leaders with criminal convictions (2 C)
Sportspeople convicted of crimes (1 C, 5 P)
Trade union officials convicted of crimes (1 C, 4 P)
I comes to my mind that these categories become defining for public figures, where the public role of the criminal becomes the essential part in the article subject, since the crime becomes part of the public interest. Hence my suggestion.
Staszek Lem (
talk) 22:28, 14 November 2016 (UTC)reply
This category was created by a valued editor and it doesn't look like he was notified. He should be. @
Good Olfactory:.
Shawn in Montreal (
talk) 23:36, 14 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Thanks, but not to worry—I was notified via my watchlist. I'm just not sure of what to make of the nomination at this stage so have no comment right now.
Good Ol’factory(talk) 02:47, 17 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment public role is obtuse. Is a sportsperson in a public role. He/she may be a public figure but not since the gladiatorial games, where combantants were owned by the state and trotted out to fulfill the public's bloodlust, sportspersons' roles are not really "public", any more than actors or "trade union officials" and (in most countries) "religious leaders". They are - broadly construed - occupations however.
Carlossuarez46 (
talk) 05:07, 15 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep -- "Role" is perhaps too vague, but might be an option. I would agree that in many occupations categorising people as criminals is NN, so that builder and bus driver categories ought not the be allowed. However in the cases listed crime is at odds with continued performance of their occupational duties. Police officers and judges would lose their jobs if the crime were serious (possibly not for motoring offences).
Peterkingiron (
talk) 18:35, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
In any case, the category statute must clearly say what I said. Otherwise sooner or later some teenager will create :category:Convicted
lunch ladies.
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Category:Gangnam Style
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Nominator's rationale: I don't know if it's
WP:SMALLCAT exactly, but this looks to have very minimal potential for growth. It's better suited to a navbox, which already exists. How many other categories do we have about individual songs? --
BDD (
talk) 22:19, 14 November 2016 (UTC)reply
@
BDD: Maybe it should be merged into its parent categories, then. Would it be possible to
redirect this category to both of its parent categories?
Jarble (
talk) 22:25, 14 November 2016 (UTC)reply
No particular reason for redirect. there are actually three parent cats. The ones 'Internet memes' and 'South Korean dance' can be easily selectively applied to some articles. E.g.
Hwang Min-woo is hardly an internet meme.
Staszek Lem (
talk) 22:35, 14 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Fine by me. I don't think it's likely enough a search term/categorization term to really merit a category redirect, but we seem to have become much more accepting of those lately, and it doesn't matter to me here. --
BDD (
talk) 22:31, 14 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Upmerge per nom. Can I go on record as supporting an official policy that we should never have two standalone articles about a song and its music video coexisting alongside each other as separate topics? (Okay, I could defend "Thriller" as an exception. But not this.)
Bearcat (
talk) 18:38, 15 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Merge somehow. It is a song that gained worldwide fame, but not notable enough to need multiple articles and a category. Perhaps we need to merge some of the articles first.
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Category:Nicknames of criminals
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Nominator's rationale: Misconceived category. We dont have articles about nicknames of criminals. We do have criminals with nicknames.
Staszek Lem (
talk) 22:15, 14 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Merge back to
Category:Criminals. The only distinction is that these are people whose article used their nickname, rather than their true name.
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Category:Land snails
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Nominator's rationale: The "category Land snails" is completely out of categorization scheme within the Wikiproject Gastropods. Consider, that there already is for example
Category:Lists of molluscs by country. The category name is so vague, that it fits only to article "Land snail", that can be more suitably within
Category:Gastropods, where is only less than 20 articles. It can not be practically and unambiguously used for categorization.
Snek01 (
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Delete This category is vast too comprehensive. I agree with the nominator's rationale.
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Category:Songs about professional sports
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Nominator's rationale: Delete / upmerge to
Category:Sporting songs. It's not necessary to distinguish between professional and amateur sports here, and while these are used as anthems in sports, they're not necessarily "about" sports.
BDD (
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Delete and upmerge per Nominator's rationale. --
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Category:Scholars of Islamic jurisprudence, Category:Fiqh scholars
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Nominator's rationale: Looks like these are all about one and the same thing. Sandstein 20:50, 14 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose. I don't think these are the same thing, actually. A
jurist is a judge or a lawyer, who's directly involved in the administration and dispensation of the law, while a scholar of law is a person who merely studies and analyzes the work that the jurists are doing. By comparison, we also have
Category:Legal scholars separately from
Category:Jurists, because the latter are people who do law while the former are people who work at universities to study the work of the latter. It is certainly possible sometimes for a person to do both things — but that's not because they're the same thing, it's because a person can switch focus from one field to the other.
Bearcat (
talk) 22:10, 14 November 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Bearcat: Well, no: our article "
jurist" does treat this word as a synonym to "scholar of jurisprudence": "A jurist (a word coming from medieval Latin), also known as legal scholar or legal theorist, is someone who researches and studies jurisprudence (theory of law). Such a person can work as an academic, legal writer or law lecturer." And "
fiqh" means "islamic jurisprudence", so "Fiqh scholars" and "Scholars of Islamic jurisprudence" are also just two different terms for the same thing. I therefore maintain that the scope of all three categories is identical. (Disclaimer: I am a lawyer, although not experienced with Islamic law or tradition.) Sandstein 17:15, 15 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Support -- Lawyers and judges may also be scholars, but they may be mere legal hacks. The three items seem to be much the same. A jurist is a scholar of what the law is or should be, rather than a mere practitioner of it.
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Category:LGBT opposition to same-sex marriage
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Nominator's rationale: Poorly conceived category which doesn't actually describe its contents in an accurate or
defining way. Apart from a subcategory for individual people which is listed for deletion below, the only contents here are one queer liberation group which never undertook anti-SSM activities per se but merely didn't opt for participation in the SSM campaign as its primary strategy for LGBT liberation, and one film which also isn't so much anti-SSM per se as it is a critique of the fundamental concept of marriage. So they would both rightly belong in
Category:LGBT criticism of marriage, but they don't represent "opposition" to same-sex marriage in particular.
Bearcat (
talk) 20:31, 14 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment. If
Category:LGBT criticism of marriage exists (which is what I was talking about in my comment below) this category is redundant, although I'm indifferent as to which name is used. Merge together and call it something. –
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Category:LGBT people opposing same-sex marriage
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Nominator's rationale: This is a category which, in a misunderstanding of Wikipedia process, was created and then immediately nominated for deletion by its own creator as a strange and counterintuitive way of getting the entries removed from the parent category
Category:LGBT opposition to same-sex marriage — however, he has since withdrawn the nomination, so I'm resubmitting a new one because the grounds for actually keeping it simply aren't there. Of the six people filed in this category, we have:
Julie Bindel, who is not opposed to legal recognition of same-sex relationships but believes that instead of SSM, the government should just get out of the marriage business entirely and treat everybody equally under the umbrella of
civil partnerships instead of marriage;
David Coburn, who is not opposed to legal recognition of same-sex relationships but argued against an SSM law on the grounds that it wasn't the right time for it yet because society is still too homophobic;
Jo Jordan, who is not opposed to same-sex marriage but voted against an SSM law on the grounds that she had to represent the views of her constituents rather than her own;
Andrew Pierce, who is not opposed to legal recognition of same-sex relationships but argued that civil partnerships were already enough and full SSM simply wasn't necessary;
Mattilda Bernstein Sycamore, who is not opposed to legal recognition of same-sex relationships but argued that the LGBT community had more important priorities to worry about;
Milo Yiannopoulos, literally the only person whose position against SSM would actually justify categorizing him on this basis.
What we have, in other words, is five people who are not opposed to same-sex marriage in principle, but are simply included on the basis of superficial "opposition" without regard to the nuances of their actual positions, and only one person who's in here on the basis of actively opposing the fundamental concept of SSM — and that's simply not a
defining basis for a category.
Bearcat (
talk) 18:15, 14 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete as not useful. There's definitely a political position which holds that gay people shouldn't marry because it's assimilation or something, but that's not this category. –
Roscelese (
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Delete If someone is a topic activist, that may be defining. But categorizing people (including LGBT people) by each position they hold would lead to category clutter.
RevelationDirect (
talk) 18:07, 26 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep, but remove Bindel. Many SSM activists have stated that "separate but equal" treatment for same-sex civil unions isn't really equal (just as
separate but equal treatment for blacks in segregated America wasn't equal), so LGBT people who support a separate class of civil union for same-sex couples still belong in the category because of the notability of that opinion. And it's possible that a much larger number of people belong in the category that none of the commenters above happen to know about. A category of LGBT people who side with the homophobes or transphobes on a major LGBT-rights issue is a notable category and worth keeping, as long as it isn't permanently a category of one.
NeonMerlin 19:32, 28 November 2016 (UTC)reply
That argument doesn't require removing just Bindel; it also requires removing everybody but Pierce, because "separate but equal is good enough" isn't the substance of their arguments either. Coburn, Jordan and Sycamore do not "side with the homophobes"; Coburn was just concerned about the timing, Jordan misread her constituents, and Sycamore just thinks LGBTs shouldn't assimilate into the mainstream at all. Even Yiannopoulos doesn't argue for "separate but equal"; he argues for LGBT people to be stripped of anything even approaching equality and permanently consigned to "second-class citizenship" treatment, because attention-trolling or something.
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Category:Animation companies
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Nominator's rationale: I'm not seeing a functional distinction between the few "companies" listed here -- and the vastly greater number of animation production companies grouped under the preexisting category.
Shawn in Montreal (
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Merge per nom Most film and animation studios are companies in their own right.
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Category:Sports in Washington by sport
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The result of the discussion was:speedy deletewp:G7. –
FayenaticLondon 11:22, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Ambiguously titled and redundant to existing categories. —
swpbT 14:30, 14 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Speedy delete – empty,
blanked by its creator within minutes of creation.
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Category:Chiefs of Nepal police
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Nominator's rationale: The actual title of these officers and of our article about the post. --
Necrothesp (
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Support -- We should use the official name, assuming that this is a correct translation of the Nepali title, rather than an interpretation of it.
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Category:Jewish American opera composers
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Nominator's rationale: Seems like
overcategorization, especially if it's being used to diffuse "American opera composers" (which it currently is). –
Roscelese (
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Delete no
WP:RS showing that Jewish American opera composers compose operas any differently than their gentile American counterparts or, for that matter, their co-religionists from other countries.
Carlossuarez46 (
talk) 00:39, 15 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete as it is now empty. I might have suggesting upmerging also to Jewish American people.
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Category:Years by topic
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The result of the discussion was:keep. Nomination withdrawn. (
non-admin closure)
23W 23:43, 7 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: I'm on a fool's errand to find certain redundant categories, and these two are sort of mindboggling. Category:Years by topic contains subcategories dealing with years in a subject. Ditto with Category:Categories by year. The scope of these two categories seems identical, the only visible difference being that the first category contains subcategories named with the pattern Years in [subject; whereas the second contains subcategories with the pattern Subject] by year. This seems to convey the same thing: to break down a broad topic into years. The only other discussion about these categories was a
couple years ago, and that was to do the opposite of this proposal. Unlike that one, I agree that retaining the status quo of Categories by [magnitude of time would do the least damage.
23W 02:35, 14 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep – as stated in the nom one contains subcategories of the form Years in [subject (ie a subcat scheme for
Category:Years) whereas the other contains subcategories of the form Subject] by year (ie a subcat scheme for
Category:Categories). So they are quite different and a merge would be inadvisable.
Oculi (
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Keep, while categories "in" may be ambiguous (as noted), categories "by" (as nominated) certainly aren't ambiguous. In this case, years by topic are categories about years organised by topic; while categories by year are about categories organised by year. At most we might change 'Categories by year' to 'Topics by year'.
Marcocapelle (
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