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Correct, I did not see that category tag. My apologies. I was trying to clean up some weird entries in the Indian Books category tree and wasn't sure how to deal with Indian writers living in Canada who are still being tagged in the Indian category trees (I think it was Rohinton Mistry). Feel free to move or rename! Thanks.
Aristophanes68(talk)01:44, 18 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete as
WP:SMALLCAT. If we had quite a bit more content about this, then it would be appropriate — but if all we've got for it is the
Category:Novels by Rohinton Mistry subcategory, and the only other plausible contenders for inclusion are debatable ones like
Category:Novels by Bharati Mukherjee (who was a Canadian resident for some years, but is primarily considered an American writer rather than a Canadian one), then that's not enough content to warrant this yet.
Bearcat (
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17:58, 18 May 2016 (UTC)reply
None of whom have their own dedicated "Novels by (writer)" categories, or even articles about any of their works that I can locate, to file in here. The key determinant of whether a category like this should exist or not is not the theoretical potential for eventually becoming well-populated — it's whether enough content to justify its existence already exists today.
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17:32, 19 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Appropriately subcategorized within the broad tree, sure. But writers are not directly added to categories that are named as "literature" rather than as "writers".
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Category:Films executive produced by...
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Comment -- Should these not be merged/renamed to
Category:Films produced by Adam Sandler, etc. There is a tendency with many media to provide a large number of categories for everything that appears on the label or in the credits. We do not allow that for actors, as it is a Performance by performer category. The second of these is certainly illegitimate. If there is a valid distinction between producer and executive producer and Sandler did both, he should have both categories, not a combined one.
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10:14, 19 May 2016 (UTC)reply
No one is suggesting a merge or rename. This is a deletion discussion. There is clearly a "valid distinction between producer and executive producer," that's the point of this Cfd.
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16:44, 19 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete per
WP:NONDEF, e.g. in the case of Adam Sandler, he is only mentioned as a defining characteristic in a few articles where he was (also) in a different position, namely in which he was "starring".
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Category:Rivers of Szabolcs-Szatmar-Bereg County
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Do not merge. For other countries there are categories for various landmarks such as rivers in various countries. There are more than one river in Szabolcs country and most of them have articles in Wikipedia. The correct solution is to include these in this category, not to eliminate the category for insufficient articles in this category. I have corrected the name which did not have the correct diacritics and added some of the articles which should be included in the category. There are probably also other articles which should be included. Deleting a category instead on including all the articles which are part of the category does not improve Wikipedia. If anything, it encourages wikipedians to be lazy by eliminating wikipedia content instead of doing their share in making it better and more complete. Other regional river categories should also be made for Hungary, as they are for other countries.
Afil (
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20:37, 17 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Such a split may be necessary if there are a lot of articles about rivers in Hungary. Romania, for example, certainly needs it, since it has several thousand articles about rivers. However, in the case of Hungary, there are currently only 47 articles about rivers, along with one list. This doesn't need splitting.
עוד מישהוOd Mishehu03:01, 18 May 2016 (UTC)reply
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Category:Burial sites of the Rockefeller family
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Nominator's rationale: Where somebody is buried isn't considered defining. One of the subcategories has exactly one Rockefeller buried there.
...William, is the complaint department really on
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Category:Burial sites of political families of the United States
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These categories group large cemeteries and towns by individual people that are buried there. An single grave does not define a cemetery. There are two exceptions with family plots--
1,
2--which I added to the family categories. -
RevelationDirect (
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12:17, 17 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete -- I regard these as much too similar to performance by performer categories. A category for the burial places of presidents might be acceptable, but when this is extended to their relatives, whose notability may mainly be inherited from the President and without any limitation on how closely related they might be, it is going too far.
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Category:Telangana poets
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Nominator's rationale: Both categories are for Telgu language poets; the second category matches terminology of parent category, and commons material.
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Category:Thai desserts and Category:Thai snack foods
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Nominator's rationale: Desserts and snacks in Thai cuisine are poorly distinguished; they are known by the same term in Thai: ขนม. It'd be easier to categorise them together.
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Correct, I did not see that category tag. My apologies. I was trying to clean up some weird entries in the Indian Books category tree and wasn't sure how to deal with Indian writers living in Canada who are still being tagged in the Indian category trees (I think it was Rohinton Mistry). Feel free to move or rename! Thanks.
Aristophanes68(talk)01:44, 18 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete as
WP:SMALLCAT. If we had quite a bit more content about this, then it would be appropriate — but if all we've got for it is the
Category:Novels by Rohinton Mistry subcategory, and the only other plausible contenders for inclusion are debatable ones like
Category:Novels by Bharati Mukherjee (who was a Canadian resident for some years, but is primarily considered an American writer rather than a Canadian one), then that's not enough content to warrant this yet.
Bearcat (
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17:58, 18 May 2016 (UTC)reply
None of whom have their own dedicated "Novels by (writer)" categories, or even articles about any of their works that I can locate, to file in here. The key determinant of whether a category like this should exist or not is not the theoretical potential for eventually becoming well-populated — it's whether enough content to justify its existence already exists today.
Bearcat (
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17:32, 19 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Appropriately subcategorized within the broad tree, sure. But writers are not directly added to categories that are named as "literature" rather than as "writers".
Bearcat (
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17:49, 19 May 2016 (UTC)reply
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Category:Films executive produced by...
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Comment -- Should these not be merged/renamed to
Category:Films produced by Adam Sandler, etc. There is a tendency with many media to provide a large number of categories for everything that appears on the label or in the credits. We do not allow that for actors, as it is a Performance by performer category. The second of these is certainly illegitimate. If there is a valid distinction between producer and executive producer and Sandler did both, he should have both categories, not a combined one.
Peterkingiron (
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10:14, 19 May 2016 (UTC)reply
No one is suggesting a merge or rename. This is a deletion discussion. There is clearly a "valid distinction between producer and executive producer," that's the point of this Cfd.
Shawn in Montreal (
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16:44, 19 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete per
WP:NONDEF, e.g. in the case of Adam Sandler, he is only mentioned as a defining characteristic in a few articles where he was (also) in a different position, namely in which he was "starring".
Marcocapelle (
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Category:Rivers of Szabolcs-Szatmar-Bereg County
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Do not merge. For other countries there are categories for various landmarks such as rivers in various countries. There are more than one river in Szabolcs country and most of them have articles in Wikipedia. The correct solution is to include these in this category, not to eliminate the category for insufficient articles in this category. I have corrected the name which did not have the correct diacritics and added some of the articles which should be included in the category. There are probably also other articles which should be included. Deleting a category instead on including all the articles which are part of the category does not improve Wikipedia. If anything, it encourages wikipedians to be lazy by eliminating wikipedia content instead of doing their share in making it better and more complete. Other regional river categories should also be made for Hungary, as they are for other countries.
Afil (
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20:37, 17 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Such a split may be necessary if there are a lot of articles about rivers in Hungary. Romania, for example, certainly needs it, since it has several thousand articles about rivers. However, in the case of Hungary, there are currently only 47 articles about rivers, along with one list. This doesn't need splitting.
עוד מישהוOd Mishehu03:01, 18 May 2016 (UTC)reply
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Category:Burial sites of the Rockefeller family
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Nominator's rationale: Where somebody is buried isn't considered defining. One of the subcategories has exactly one Rockefeller buried there.
...William, is the complaint department really on
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These categories group large cemeteries and towns by individual people that are buried there. An single grave does not define a cemetery. There are two exceptions with family plots--
1,
2--which I added to the family categories. -
RevelationDirect (
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12:17, 17 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete -- I regard these as much too similar to performance by performer categories. A category for the burial places of presidents might be acceptable, but when this is extended to their relatives, whose notability may mainly be inherited from the President and without any limitation on how closely related they might be, it is going too far.
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Nominator's rationale: Both categories are for Telgu language poets; the second category matches terminology of parent category, and commons material.
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Nominator's rationale: Desserts and snacks in Thai cuisine are poorly distinguished; they are known by the same term in Thai: ขนม. It'd be easier to categorise them together.
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