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- The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic L ondon 21:59, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Yet another category by Stefanomione that performs no useful purpose and causes incorrect categorization (e.g. it puts Category:Musical techniques under Category:Visual arts). DexDor (talk) 20:37, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. He completely fails to grasp the difference between art and The arts and is causing all sorts of pproblems. Johnbod ( talk) 03:13, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete (possibly full upmerge). This is serving no useful purpose. Peterkingiron ( talk) 17:57, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete I fully agree, including Johnbod's analysis. When is the community going to take the step of blocking him from category creation, I wonder. He's far too often at Cfd, fails to learn or even acknowledge mistakes, and he's a net negative for the project at this point. His categorization is devolving into word play and logic that are meaningful almost solely to him. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 23:40, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge as discussed.
Good Ol’factory
(talk)
00:36, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Monetarism to Category:Monetary economics
- Nominator's rationale: upmerge the eponymous article to all parent categories per WP:SMALLCAT. This category currently contains just this one article (and a subcat that shouldn't be upmerged). I would expect this topic to have some growth potential but given the current state of the category it will probably take a long while before there is enough to re-establish this category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:22, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
- Support -- My only question is what we should do about the Monetarists subcat, which will not fit well into the target. Peterkingiron ( talk) 18:01, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- Agree that the subcat shouldn't be merged, the subcat is in Category:Macroeconomists and Category:Monetary economists and that's perfectly fine. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:03, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: rename, but nominated category can be re-created and used as a parent category for the target category when there is a non-book work by Keynes with a WP article.
Good Ol’factory
(talk)
02:39, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Works by John Maynard Keynes to Category:Books by John Maynard Keynes
- Nominator's rationale: rename per actual content, books is more specific than works. Also change the parent categories from "works" to "books". Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:15, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
- Keep -- I expect he wrote articles as well as books and some such articles may warrant an article. Peterkingiron ( talk) 17:59, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- Suggestion, let's rename the category for now and reinstate the works category as a parent category as soon as one Wikipedia article about a Keynes' article appears. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:01, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- Keep -- Per Peterkingiron. Stefanomione ( talk) 23:49, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- Rename for now, without prejudice to re-creating the category if any articles about his non-book works are written. – Fayenatic L ondon 22:04, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: keep. ( non-admin closure) ~ Rob Talk 19:43, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Synonymous with Category:Linux distributions - Champion ( talk) ( contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 05:34, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
- Comment: Technically, a Linux-kernel-based operating system isn't necessarily also a Linux distribution. For example, Android is certainly an operating system based on the Linux kernel, but it generally isn't recognized as a Linux distribution. — Dsimic ( talk | contribs) 22:43, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
Weakoppose per Dsimic. A Linux distribution basically is a Linux-kernel based GNU-distribution. A Linux kernel-based OS, for example on embedded systems, may however use other tools on the same kernel basis. However, the category currently mostly seems to contain regular Linux/GNU distributions. Unsure at first glance, if Univention Corporate Server or Raspbian are still to be considered a "Linux distribution". -- PanchoS ( talk) 16:09, 24 May 2016 (UTC)- @
Dsimic: @
PanchoS: Just wondering, if indeed the category currently mostly contains regular Linux/GNU distributions, shouldn't we delete the nominated category per
WP:OVERLAPCAT?
Marcocapelle (
talk)
15:35, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
- @
Marcocapelle: I purged the category a bit, and added the Linux-kernel-based
Android, so there should be not much overlap left. As I said, "Linux distribution" is a common language term for a "Linux/GNU distribution", and an operating system that is build on top of a (modified) Linux kernel but otherwise doesn't include many of the tools that form the Linux/GNU "ecosphere" isn't a "Linux distribution". A GPL licence would also make a difference. We might want to establish clearer inclusion criteria from literature, but for now, I think we can live with it. --
PanchoS (
talk)
16:25, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for updating the category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:13, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
- Please also keep in mind the MOS:LINUX guideline. — Dsimic ( talk | contribs) 11:44, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
- @
Marcocapelle: I purged the category a bit, and added the Linux-kernel-based
Android, so there should be not much overlap left. As I said, "Linux distribution" is a common language term for a "Linux/GNU distribution", and an operating system that is build on top of a (modified) Linux kernel but otherwise doesn't include many of the tools that form the Linux/GNU "ecosphere" isn't a "Linux distribution". A GPL licence would also make a difference. We might want to establish clearer inclusion criteria from literature, but for now, I think we can live with it. --
PanchoS (
talk)
16:25, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: rename for now, without prejudice to a nomination for deletion, which could be combined with a broader nomination for other categories within
Category:Holiday foods.
Good Ol’factory
(talk)
00:39, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Mardi Gras food to Category:Carnival foods
- Nominator's rationale: Mardi Gras refers either to a specific day in the Carnival season, or to events within that season. This category currently contains a number of dishes, such as Fasnacht (doughnut), Berliner (doughnut) which are associated with the season in general, rather than a specific day, and may not be limited to special events. Given the close association in subject matter and narrow scope, I think a rename is more suitable than splitting the category. Ibadibam ( talk) 00:16, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
- Rename Before I read the articles, I expected to vote delete. But the articles are definitely defined by Carnival, and not just Mardi Gras. RevelationDirect ( talk) 03:33, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
- Comment as nominator – Given that "carnival" can also mean a generic celebration, is there another term that might be more precise? Ibadibam ( talk) 21:37, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete (with some upmerging if necessary) as this is non-defining for
Berliner (doughnut),
Pancake etc. If anyone wants to create a list of foods associated with Mardi Gras then go ahead.
DexDor
(talk)
21:12, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
- How do you feel about the other subcategories of
Category:Holiday foods,
DexDor?
Ibadibam (
talk)
21:19, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
- At the very least they need purging. For example, Potato pancake is perfectly well categorized by Category:Potato dishes and Category:Pancakes - all the other categories it's in are inappropriate attempts to create lists in category space. DexDor (talk) 21:34, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
- How do you feel about the other subcategories of
Category:Holiday foods,
DexDor?
Ibadibam (
talk)
21:19, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per DexDor and precedent; foods by when eaten have been deleted before, like Breakfast foods for basically similar reasons. Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 22:44, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
- If kept, rename as nominated. If not kept, listify. Neutral about whether or not deleting. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:23, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
- Comment as nominator – if consensus is to delete this category, I would prefer to withdraw this CfD and re-nominate it for deletion as part of a multi-CfD together with Category:Holiday foods and each one of its subcategories, since I think the question of definingness applies equally to all of them. Ibadibam ( talk) 16:59, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic L ondon 21:59, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Yet another category by Stefanomione that performs no useful purpose and causes incorrect categorization (e.g. it puts Category:Musical techniques under Category:Visual arts). DexDor (talk) 20:37, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. He completely fails to grasp the difference between art and The arts and is causing all sorts of pproblems. Johnbod ( talk) 03:13, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete (possibly full upmerge). This is serving no useful purpose. Peterkingiron ( talk) 17:57, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete I fully agree, including Johnbod's analysis. When is the community going to take the step of blocking him from category creation, I wonder. He's far too often at Cfd, fails to learn or even acknowledge mistakes, and he's a net negative for the project at this point. His categorization is devolving into word play and logic that are meaningful almost solely to him. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 23:40, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge as discussed.
Good Ol’factory
(talk)
00:36, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Monetarism to Category:Monetary economics
- Nominator's rationale: upmerge the eponymous article to all parent categories per WP:SMALLCAT. This category currently contains just this one article (and a subcat that shouldn't be upmerged). I would expect this topic to have some growth potential but given the current state of the category it will probably take a long while before there is enough to re-establish this category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:22, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
- Support -- My only question is what we should do about the Monetarists subcat, which will not fit well into the target. Peterkingiron ( talk) 18:01, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- Agree that the subcat shouldn't be merged, the subcat is in Category:Macroeconomists and Category:Monetary economists and that's perfectly fine. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:03, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: rename, but nominated category can be re-created and used as a parent category for the target category when there is a non-book work by Keynes with a WP article.
Good Ol’factory
(talk)
02:39, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Works by John Maynard Keynes to Category:Books by John Maynard Keynes
- Nominator's rationale: rename per actual content, books is more specific than works. Also change the parent categories from "works" to "books". Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:15, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
- Keep -- I expect he wrote articles as well as books and some such articles may warrant an article. Peterkingiron ( talk) 17:59, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- Suggestion, let's rename the category for now and reinstate the works category as a parent category as soon as one Wikipedia article about a Keynes' article appears. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:01, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- Keep -- Per Peterkingiron. Stefanomione ( talk) 23:49, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- Rename for now, without prejudice to re-creating the category if any articles about his non-book works are written. – Fayenatic L ondon 22:04, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: keep. ( non-admin closure) ~ Rob Talk 19:43, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Synonymous with Category:Linux distributions - Champion ( talk) ( contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 05:34, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
- Comment: Technically, a Linux-kernel-based operating system isn't necessarily also a Linux distribution. For example, Android is certainly an operating system based on the Linux kernel, but it generally isn't recognized as a Linux distribution. — Dsimic ( talk | contribs) 22:43, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
Weakoppose per Dsimic. A Linux distribution basically is a Linux-kernel based GNU-distribution. A Linux kernel-based OS, for example on embedded systems, may however use other tools on the same kernel basis. However, the category currently mostly seems to contain regular Linux/GNU distributions. Unsure at first glance, if Univention Corporate Server or Raspbian are still to be considered a "Linux distribution". -- PanchoS ( talk) 16:09, 24 May 2016 (UTC)- @
Dsimic: @
PanchoS: Just wondering, if indeed the category currently mostly contains regular Linux/GNU distributions, shouldn't we delete the nominated category per
WP:OVERLAPCAT?
Marcocapelle (
talk)
15:35, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
- @
Marcocapelle: I purged the category a bit, and added the Linux-kernel-based
Android, so there should be not much overlap left. As I said, "Linux distribution" is a common language term for a "Linux/GNU distribution", and an operating system that is build on top of a (modified) Linux kernel but otherwise doesn't include many of the tools that form the Linux/GNU "ecosphere" isn't a "Linux distribution". A GPL licence would also make a difference. We might want to establish clearer inclusion criteria from literature, but for now, I think we can live with it. --
PanchoS (
talk)
16:25, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for updating the category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:13, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
- Please also keep in mind the MOS:LINUX guideline. — Dsimic ( talk | contribs) 11:44, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
- @
Marcocapelle: I purged the category a bit, and added the Linux-kernel-based
Android, so there should be not much overlap left. As I said, "Linux distribution" is a common language term for a "Linux/GNU distribution", and an operating system that is build on top of a (modified) Linux kernel but otherwise doesn't include many of the tools that form the Linux/GNU "ecosphere" isn't a "Linux distribution". A GPL licence would also make a difference. We might want to establish clearer inclusion criteria from literature, but for now, I think we can live with it. --
PanchoS (
talk)
16:25, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: rename for now, without prejudice to a nomination for deletion, which could be combined with a broader nomination for other categories within
Category:Holiday foods.
Good Ol’factory
(talk)
00:39, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Mardi Gras food to Category:Carnival foods
- Nominator's rationale: Mardi Gras refers either to a specific day in the Carnival season, or to events within that season. This category currently contains a number of dishes, such as Fasnacht (doughnut), Berliner (doughnut) which are associated with the season in general, rather than a specific day, and may not be limited to special events. Given the close association in subject matter and narrow scope, I think a rename is more suitable than splitting the category. Ibadibam ( talk) 00:16, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
- Rename Before I read the articles, I expected to vote delete. But the articles are definitely defined by Carnival, and not just Mardi Gras. RevelationDirect ( talk) 03:33, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
- Comment as nominator – Given that "carnival" can also mean a generic celebration, is there another term that might be more precise? Ibadibam ( talk) 21:37, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete (with some upmerging if necessary) as this is non-defining for
Berliner (doughnut),
Pancake etc. If anyone wants to create a list of foods associated with Mardi Gras then go ahead.
DexDor
(talk)
21:12, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
- How do you feel about the other subcategories of
Category:Holiday foods,
DexDor?
Ibadibam (
talk)
21:19, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
- At the very least they need purging. For example, Potato pancake is perfectly well categorized by Category:Potato dishes and Category:Pancakes - all the other categories it's in are inappropriate attempts to create lists in category space. DexDor (talk) 21:34, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
- How do you feel about the other subcategories of
Category:Holiday foods,
DexDor?
Ibadibam (
talk)
21:19, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per DexDor and precedent; foods by when eaten have been deleted before, like Breakfast foods for basically similar reasons. Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 22:44, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
- If kept, rename as nominated. If not kept, listify. Neutral about whether or not deleting. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:23, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
- Comment as nominator – if consensus is to delete this category, I would prefer to withdraw this CfD and re-nominate it for deletion as part of a multi-CfD together with Category:Holiday foods and each one of its subcategories, since I think the question of definingness applies equally to all of them. Ibadibam ( talk) 16:59, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
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