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Nominator's rationale: containerize. While geographic categories for "general" cardiovascular disease deaths have been deleted earlier in
this,
this and
this discussion, it is still possible to categorize a biography as a "general" cardiovascular disease death by putting the article directly in the nominated category. However that isn't in accordance with the intention of the earlier discussions, since a "general" cardiovascular disease death is too common to categorize. So by this nomination the category
Category:Deaths from cardiovascular disease will be restricted to subcategories of less frequently occurring varieties of cardiovascular disease deaths, while removing the separate articles.
Marcocapelle (
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22:09, 20 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Comment I am not convinced that we need cause of death categories at all, except for rare cases where the cause of death is itself notable, or having the disease was a notable feature of a subject's life. Even the existing subcategories of this one are mostly not all that unusual. If we are to have this category tree at all, I would certainly support nom.
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Category:German involvement in the Syrian Civil War
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The result of the discussion was:no consensus. As always, users are free to remove articles that do no belong in the category. From my perspective, there are probably only two articles that actually belong in the category right now.Good Ol’factory(talk)09:09, 12 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: The category is purely WP:CRYSTALBALL, trying to hypothesize how and when Germany will intervene against ISIL, based on 4 December 2015 German government announcement that it "would support"
Combined Joint Task Force – Operation Inherent Resolve. Until we have actual moves by Germany, there is no point in making such a "prophetic" page.
GreyShark (
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17:10, 20 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Strong Keep, No crystal ball involved or needed; The subjects of the articles currently in the category have all been officially confirmed by the German government to be part of their planned contribution (so far generally limited to the Syrian theatre though a pre-existing Iraq based training camp is involved) to the multinational campaign against ISIS. I'll take the liberty of adding the 'German intervention against ISIL' article to the category now.
Ceannlann gorm (
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20:48, 24 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete -- The article comprises a main article and those on three military formations. Even if these are deployed, this will be performer by performance categorization, which we do not allow. We would not allow a category for American regiments deployed in the Vietnam war: they all were, or even British battalions deployed to Afghanistan in recent years: they all were. We certainly should not allow German units to be categorised before they arrive and start fighting.
Peterkingiron (
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23:00, 25 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Purge of articles for which the Syrian Civil War is a
WP:NON-DEFINING characteristic and then delete if empty (on the basis that it could be created later if there are then any articles that belong in it). DexDor(talk)07:26, 29 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete parts of a "planned contribution" (note the planned) have not been contributed. Many things are planned that do not happen. There is no reason to categorize things based on announced plans that have not yet occurred.
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04:48, 30 December 2015 (UTC)reply
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Category:Government Communications Headquarters operations and programs
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Category:Queen's Counsel 2001–2100
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Nominator's rationale: I appreciate the optimism that the office of Queen's Counsel is going to last at least until 2100, but it's probably best if we just make this open-ended to avoid
crystal ball issues. At its worst, it makes it appear as if 2100 has past.
Good Ol’factory(talk)09:39, 20 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Support -- To avoid people appearing in the categories for two centuries, I would suggest that people should be categorised by date of appointment.
Peterkingiron (
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15:42, 20 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Support—With the knowledge that at some point in the next 20 years, upon the death of HM, Queen's Counsels will become King's Counsels, this whole tree will need dealing with and decisions made as to which members of this category, and the preceding one for the 20th Century, remain in this category and which will move to the KC version for the 21st Century. At that point we will need to rename this category with an end year. Until we know that year it is best to leave it open ended.
Beeswaxcandle (
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05:44, 22 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Support "With the knowledge that at some point in the next 20 years"? Really? What knowledge? More crystal ball gazing. By 2100, a republic is also possible.
Laurel Lodged (
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09:00, 22 December 2015 (UTC)reply
I would prefer to keep it simple, as it is now. Anything more precise would be a bit overzealous, I think, and would lead to confusion. I don't see the King vs. Queen naming issue as being a problem at all—they are not distinct offices, just variations of the name of the same office. For instance, anyone who is a Queen's Counsel when QE2 dies will become a King's Counsel when a king is crowned; there will not have to be a re-appointment or anything of that sort.
Good Ol’factory(talk)06:07, 29 December 2015 (UTC)reply
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Category:Gaelic literature
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Category:Damien Moyal albums
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Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary listing of obscure and non-notable albums by bands of dubious notability themselves, only claiming notability from the involvement of
Damien Moyal, whose sustained notability is itself called into question.
Abovethestorm (
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01:02, 20 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete for Different Reasons We don't categorize Beatles and Wings albums under Paul McCartney. These albums are already categorized by the bands that made them, it's not defining to also define them by each person in each band. (I don't share the nominator's concern about notability.)
RevelationDirect (
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02:25, 20 December 2015 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale: containerize. While geographic categories for "general" cardiovascular disease deaths have been deleted earlier in
this,
this and
this discussion, it is still possible to categorize a biography as a "general" cardiovascular disease death by putting the article directly in the nominated category. However that isn't in accordance with the intention of the earlier discussions, since a "general" cardiovascular disease death is too common to categorize. So by this nomination the category
Category:Deaths from cardiovascular disease will be restricted to subcategories of less frequently occurring varieties of cardiovascular disease deaths, while removing the separate articles.
Marcocapelle (
talk)
22:09, 20 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Comment I am not convinced that we need cause of death categories at all, except for rare cases where the cause of death is itself notable, or having the disease was a notable feature of a subject's life. Even the existing subcategories of this one are mostly not all that unusual. If we are to have this category tree at all, I would certainly support nom.
Peterkingiron (
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22:53, 25 December 2015 (UTC)reply
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Category:German involvement in the Syrian Civil War
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The result of the discussion was:no consensus. As always, users are free to remove articles that do no belong in the category. From my perspective, there are probably only two articles that actually belong in the category right now.Good Ol’factory(talk)09:09, 12 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: The category is purely WP:CRYSTALBALL, trying to hypothesize how and when Germany will intervene against ISIL, based on 4 December 2015 German government announcement that it "would support"
Combined Joint Task Force – Operation Inherent Resolve. Until we have actual moves by Germany, there is no point in making such a "prophetic" page.
GreyShark (
dibra)
17:10, 20 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Strong Keep, No crystal ball involved or needed; The subjects of the articles currently in the category have all been officially confirmed by the German government to be part of their planned contribution (so far generally limited to the Syrian theatre though a pre-existing Iraq based training camp is involved) to the multinational campaign against ISIS. I'll take the liberty of adding the 'German intervention against ISIL' article to the category now.
Ceannlann gorm (
talk)
20:48, 24 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete -- The article comprises a main article and those on three military formations. Even if these are deployed, this will be performer by performance categorization, which we do not allow. We would not allow a category for American regiments deployed in the Vietnam war: they all were, or even British battalions deployed to Afghanistan in recent years: they all were. We certainly should not allow German units to be categorised before they arrive and start fighting.
Peterkingiron (
talk)
23:00, 25 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Purge of articles for which the Syrian Civil War is a
WP:NON-DEFINING characteristic and then delete if empty (on the basis that it could be created later if there are then any articles that belong in it). DexDor(talk)07:26, 29 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete parts of a "planned contribution" (note the planned) have not been contributed. Many things are planned that do not happen. There is no reason to categorize things based on announced plans that have not yet occurred.
John Pack Lambert (
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04:48, 30 December 2015 (UTC)reply
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Category:Government Communications Headquarters operations and programs
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Category:Queen's Counsel 2001–2100
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Nominator's rationale: I appreciate the optimism that the office of Queen's Counsel is going to last at least until 2100, but it's probably best if we just make this open-ended to avoid
crystal ball issues. At its worst, it makes it appear as if 2100 has past.
Good Ol’factory(talk)09:39, 20 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Support -- To avoid people appearing in the categories for two centuries, I would suggest that people should be categorised by date of appointment.
Peterkingiron (
talk)
15:42, 20 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Support—With the knowledge that at some point in the next 20 years, upon the death of HM, Queen's Counsels will become King's Counsels, this whole tree will need dealing with and decisions made as to which members of this category, and the preceding one for the 20th Century, remain in this category and which will move to the KC version for the 21st Century. At that point we will need to rename this category with an end year. Until we know that year it is best to leave it open ended.
Beeswaxcandle (
talk)
05:44, 22 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Support "With the knowledge that at some point in the next 20 years"? Really? What knowledge? More crystal ball gazing. By 2100, a republic is also possible.
Laurel Lodged (
talk)
09:00, 22 December 2015 (UTC)reply
I would prefer to keep it simple, as it is now. Anything more precise would be a bit overzealous, I think, and would lead to confusion. I don't see the King vs. Queen naming issue as being a problem at all—they are not distinct offices, just variations of the name of the same office. For instance, anyone who is a Queen's Counsel when QE2 dies will become a King's Counsel when a king is crowned; there will not have to be a re-appointment or anything of that sort.
Good Ol’factory(talk)06:07, 29 December 2015 (UTC)reply
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Category:Gaelic literature
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Category:Damien Moyal albums
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Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary listing of obscure and non-notable albums by bands of dubious notability themselves, only claiming notability from the involvement of
Damien Moyal, whose sustained notability is itself called into question.
Abovethestorm (
talk)
01:02, 20 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete for Different Reasons We don't categorize Beatles and Wings albums under Paul McCartney. These albums are already categorized by the bands that made them, it's not defining to also define them by each person in each band. (I don't share the nominator's concern about notability.)
RevelationDirect (
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02:25, 20 December 2015 (UTC)reply
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