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The result of the discussion was:rename. –
FayenaticLondon 23:10, 18 May 2014 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Rename. Admittedly, there is some ambiguity as to the propriety of referring to the two wives of Southern Tang's final ruler
Li Yu (
Queen Zhou the Elder — whose article I still believe should be either titled
Empress Zhou the Elder or
Empress Zhou Ehuang, but that's a different issue for a different day — and her younger sister and successor Empress/Queen Zhou the Younger (who currently does not have an English Wikipedia article yet, but whose Chinese Wikipedia article can be found at
zh:小周后). (That is because throughout Li Yu's entire reign, as well at the very end of the reign of his father
Li Jing, Southern Tang had been subjugated to be formally a vassal of
Song (and, prior to that,
Later Zhou).) However, there is no doubt that their grandmother-in-law (
Empress Song Fujin) and mother-in-law (
Empress Zhong) are properly referred to as empresses. Their husband Li Yu himself is generally considered by Chinese historians to be properly referred to as emperor. With that being the case, given that "consort" often denotes, in the Chinese context, the emperors' concubines and the Zhous were (successive) wives, I believe the category is more properly named under "empresses" rather than "consorts." --
Nlu (
talk) 20:15, 3 May 2014 (UTC)reply
Comment Could we just lump them all together as Category:Southern Tang royalty? All of them amount to about 8 articles or so.
Brianyoumans (
talk) 17:42, 8 May 2014 (UTC)reply
We could, but I don't see the value of such an aggregate category. --
Nlu (
talk) 02:51, 10 May 2014 (UTC)reply
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Category:National Film Awards
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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a
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The result of the discussion was:rename. –
FayenaticLondon 23:10, 18 May 2014 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Rename. Admittedly, there is some ambiguity as to the propriety of referring to the two wives of Southern Tang's final ruler
Li Yu (
Queen Zhou the Elder — whose article I still believe should be either titled
Empress Zhou the Elder or
Empress Zhou Ehuang, but that's a different issue for a different day — and her younger sister and successor Empress/Queen Zhou the Younger (who currently does not have an English Wikipedia article yet, but whose Chinese Wikipedia article can be found at
zh:小周后). (That is because throughout Li Yu's entire reign, as well at the very end of the reign of his father
Li Jing, Southern Tang had been subjugated to be formally a vassal of
Song (and, prior to that,
Later Zhou).) However, there is no doubt that their grandmother-in-law (
Empress Song Fujin) and mother-in-law (
Empress Zhong) are properly referred to as empresses. Their husband Li Yu himself is generally considered by Chinese historians to be properly referred to as emperor. With that being the case, given that "consort" often denotes, in the Chinese context, the emperors' concubines and the Zhous were (successive) wives, I believe the category is more properly named under "empresses" rather than "consorts." --
Nlu (
talk) 20:15, 3 May 2014 (UTC)reply
Comment Could we just lump them all together as Category:Southern Tang royalty? All of them amount to about 8 articles or so.
Brianyoumans (
talk) 17:42, 8 May 2014 (UTC)reply
We could, but I don't see the value of such an aggregate category. --
Nlu (
talk) 02:51, 10 May 2014 (UTC)reply
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Category:National Film Awards
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