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Delete. There is an album and a song by the artist with articles but those should categorized in appropriate schemes for albums by artist and songs by artist categories. Even with those, this eponymous category is not needed. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me04:43, 21 August 2014 (UTC)reply
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Grand Tour stage winners by nationality
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Nominator's rationale: The three
Grand Tours are contested by multinational trade teams, not national teams, and so the above categories are based on a
trivial intersection of characteristics. Although being a Grand Tour stage winner and being a Fooian male cyclist are individually defining, the intersection of the two characteristics is not. Upmerging would result in the 'stage winners' category for each Grand Tour being populated with between 300 articles (Giro d'Italia and Vuelta España), which is not too high, and 750 articles (Tour de France), which can be navigated using a TOC template. Due to the presence of articles such as
Yellow jersey statistics,
Pink jersey statistics, and
Vuelta a España records and statistics, no information would be lost as a result of the merge. --
Black Falcon(
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Keep - I really don't see the benefit of deleting multiple, reasonable size categories in favour of huge, messy categories. In the past we've created subcategory structures to keep category sizes manageable. This proposal aims at doing exactly the opposite. In
Category:Tour de France stage winners, for example, 3 of the subcats have over 100 members. One of those has 222. Merging these categories results in a category with 762 members. Sure, we can navigate a category that size, but say we want to isolate the 9 Australians, how do we do that with a TOC? --
AussieLegend (
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17:03, 20 August 2014 (UTC)reply
Subcategory structures are appropriate for managing the size of large categories, but they should be constructed along lines that are meaningful and significant. For example, we have
Category:Olympic cyclists of Australia because that is a meaningful way to divide those individuals: Olympic cyclists compete on national teams and represent their nations. However, there is not a similar relationship between nationality and participation in a Grand Tour. The fact that three categories (Belgian, French, Italian) account for nearly two-thirds of articles in this category tree lends further credence to that point.
...say we want to isolate the 9 Australians, how do we do that with a TOC? We could not, but underlying that is the matter that a category is not the right tool for capturing these types of potentially interesting but ultimately trivial intersections. Instead, we could find it in a list-type article such as
Yellow jersey statistics, or through a
category intersection tool. --
Black Falcon(
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Category:Volcanoes of Bougainville
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Category:Bedford College, London
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Category:Kosal Wikipedians
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Category:Geography of Kosala
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Category:Radio stations and networks by content
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Nominator's rationale:Delete. Another
User:Stefanomione special. There are two key problems here: one is that categorizing radio stations by "content" isn't meaningfully distinct from categorizing them by "format", thus making this an unhelpful duplication of
Category:Radio stations by format; and the other is the conflation of "stations and networks" into a common bucket, even though all other categories in the
Category:Radio tree keep stations and networks catted separately from each other. By either token, this category simply isn't needed or warranted in this form.
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Musical intervals
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Delete. There is an album and a song by the artist with articles but those should categorized in appropriate schemes for albums by artist and songs by artist categories. Even with those, this eponymous category is not needed. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me04:43, 21 August 2014 (UTC)reply
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Grand Tour stage winners by nationality
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Nominator's rationale: The three
Grand Tours are contested by multinational trade teams, not national teams, and so the above categories are based on a
trivial intersection of characteristics. Although being a Grand Tour stage winner and being a Fooian male cyclist are individually defining, the intersection of the two characteristics is not. Upmerging would result in the 'stage winners' category for each Grand Tour being populated with between 300 articles (Giro d'Italia and Vuelta España), which is not too high, and 750 articles (Tour de France), which can be navigated using a TOC template. Due to the presence of articles such as
Yellow jersey statistics,
Pink jersey statistics, and
Vuelta a España records and statistics, no information would be lost as a result of the merge. --
Black Falcon(
talk)23:22, 19 August 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep - I really don't see the benefit of deleting multiple, reasonable size categories in favour of huge, messy categories. In the past we've created subcategory structures to keep category sizes manageable. This proposal aims at doing exactly the opposite. In
Category:Tour de France stage winners, for example, 3 of the subcats have over 100 members. One of those has 222. Merging these categories results in a category with 762 members. Sure, we can navigate a category that size, but say we want to isolate the 9 Australians, how do we do that with a TOC? --
AussieLegend (
✉)
17:03, 20 August 2014 (UTC)reply
Subcategory structures are appropriate for managing the size of large categories, but they should be constructed along lines that are meaningful and significant. For example, we have
Category:Olympic cyclists of Australia because that is a meaningful way to divide those individuals: Olympic cyclists compete on national teams and represent their nations. However, there is not a similar relationship between nationality and participation in a Grand Tour. The fact that three categories (Belgian, French, Italian) account for nearly two-thirds of articles in this category tree lends further credence to that point.
...say we want to isolate the 9 Australians, how do we do that with a TOC? We could not, but underlying that is the matter that a category is not the right tool for capturing these types of potentially interesting but ultimately trivial intersections. Instead, we could find it in a list-type article such as
Yellow jersey statistics, or through a
category intersection tool. --
Black Falcon(
talk)05:03, 22 August 2014 (UTC)reply
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Category:Volcanoes of Bougainville
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Category:Bedford College, London
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Category:UH member clubs
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Category:Geography of Kosala
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Category:Radio stations and networks by content
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Nominator's rationale:Delete. Another
User:Stefanomione special. There are two key problems here: one is that categorizing radio stations by "content" isn't meaningfully distinct from categorizing them by "format", thus making this an unhelpful duplication of
Category:Radio stations by format; and the other is the conflation of "stations and networks" into a common bucket, even though all other categories in the
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17:15, 1 July 2014 (UTC)reply
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Musical intervals
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