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Nominator's rationale: There is no need to subdivide by region either
Category:Wikipedians in Africa or
Category:African Wikipedians as both categories directly contain their appropriate country-level subcategories. These intermediate-level categories hinder, rather than help, navigation by contributing to clutter and confusion. All category members are already appropriately categorized, so upmerging is not needed. -- Black Falcon(
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Category:Middle Africa WikiProjects
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Category:Vegetarians by century
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Delete The one person in both these categories (as in 1 for both of them, not each) was a vegetarian, but it is not clear that that is a defining trait of him. Vegetarianism is really too ephemeral to be worth categorizing.
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20:35, 19 February 2013 (UTC)reply
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Category:Wikipedians in Juneau-Southeast Alaska
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Category:Mountains and ski resorts in the Okanagan
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Nominator's rationale: this category combined two hierarchies unwittingly; the Mountains categories are well-established per
Category:Mountains of British Columbia, I've launched discussion about splitting it by regions, of which the Okanagan is a main one....my main reservation there is should it be "of the Okanagan" or "in the Okanagan", no sister categories exist yet; "of" seems usual wikiconvention, "in" more local speech usagenorms/....
Category:Ski areas and resorts in British Columbia is the parent hierarchy for ski resorts.....some discussion is around about lumping them by BC Tourism region but that's not been established yet; for now this is needed to break the two types of contents here....
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08:42, 19 February 2013 (UTC)reply
Agree with split. All ski mountains are mountains, but not all mountains are ski mountains. Two related but not co-categorizable concepts here. As for the "of" vs. "or", man made things get "in", landforms get "of" (it's in the rules somewhere). The Interior(Talk)00:20, 20 February 2013 (UTC)reply
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Category:Ancient Greek vegetarians
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Nominator's rationale: Same sort of category nominated for the same reasons as those in the section below; however, nominated seperately as Ancient Greeks and Romans may be more defined by vegetarianism than modernday people, so a seperate discussion may be desired.
The BushrangerOne ping only02:34, 19 February 2013 (UTC)reply
Delete. The arguments made in the
discussion of 11 February apply just as much to these categories and, indeed, are even more apparent. Verifiability, for example, becomes an even less surmountable issue when we consider the case of people who lived and died approximately two millennia ago. Most importantly, however, vegetarianism is not a sufficiently
defining characteristic for categorization; being an advocate of vegatarianism can be defining, but that would be an entirely different category that need not be subdivided by nationality or historical ethnicity. -- Black Falcon(
talk)18:47, 19 February 2013 (UTC)reply
Delete being a vegetarian is inherently too trivial to be worth categorizing. Anyway the joint categorizing of these people assumes that they are a coherent group which is not true.
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20:36, 19 February 2013 (UTC)reply
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Category:Dutch vegetarians
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Category:Abrahamic prophecy
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Nominator's rationale: We have no article on
Abrahamic prophecy, I also can't find any good hits on Google books or Google scholar for the term. The articles don't seem to be about
Abraham's prophecies (
this Google scholar hit uses the term to mean that), so it's misleading to boot.
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00:15, 19 February 2013 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale: There is no need to subdivide by region either
Category:Wikipedians in Africa or
Category:African Wikipedians as both categories directly contain their appropriate country-level subcategories. These intermediate-level categories hinder, rather than help, navigation by contributing to clutter and confusion. All category members are already appropriately categorized, so upmerging is not needed. -- Black Falcon(
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Category:Middle Africa WikiProjects
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Category:Vegetarians by century
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Delete The one person in both these categories (as in 1 for both of them, not each) was a vegetarian, but it is not clear that that is a defining trait of him. Vegetarianism is really too ephemeral to be worth categorizing.
John Pack Lambert (
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20:35, 19 February 2013 (UTC)reply
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Category:Wikipedians in Juneau-Southeast Alaska
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Category:Mountains and ski resorts in the Okanagan
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Nominator's rationale: this category combined two hierarchies unwittingly; the Mountains categories are well-established per
Category:Mountains of British Columbia, I've launched discussion about splitting it by regions, of which the Okanagan is a main one....my main reservation there is should it be "of the Okanagan" or "in the Okanagan", no sister categories exist yet; "of" seems usual wikiconvention, "in" more local speech usagenorms/....
Category:Ski areas and resorts in British Columbia is the parent hierarchy for ski resorts.....some discussion is around about lumping them by BC Tourism region but that's not been established yet; for now this is needed to break the two types of contents here....
Skookum1 (
talk)
08:42, 19 February 2013 (UTC)reply
Agree with split. All ski mountains are mountains, but not all mountains are ski mountains. Two related but not co-categorizable concepts here. As for the "of" vs. "or", man made things get "in", landforms get "of" (it's in the rules somewhere). The Interior(Talk)00:20, 20 February 2013 (UTC)reply
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Category:Ancient Greek vegetarians
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Nominator's rationale: Same sort of category nominated for the same reasons as those in the section below; however, nominated seperately as Ancient Greeks and Romans may be more defined by vegetarianism than modernday people, so a seperate discussion may be desired.
The BushrangerOne ping only02:34, 19 February 2013 (UTC)reply
Delete. The arguments made in the
discussion of 11 February apply just as much to these categories and, indeed, are even more apparent. Verifiability, for example, becomes an even less surmountable issue when we consider the case of people who lived and died approximately two millennia ago. Most importantly, however, vegetarianism is not a sufficiently
defining characteristic for categorization; being an advocate of vegatarianism can be defining, but that would be an entirely different category that need not be subdivided by nationality or historical ethnicity. -- Black Falcon(
talk)18:47, 19 February 2013 (UTC)reply
Delete being a vegetarian is inherently too trivial to be worth categorizing. Anyway the joint categorizing of these people assumes that they are a coherent group which is not true.
John Pack Lambert (
talk)
20:36, 19 February 2013 (UTC)reply
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Category:Dutch vegetarians
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Category:Abrahamic prophecy
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Nominator's rationale: We have no article on
Abrahamic prophecy, I also can't find any good hits on Google books or Google scholar for the term. The articles don't seem to be about
Abraham's prophecies (
this Google scholar hit uses the term to mean that), so it's misleading to boot.
Dweller (
talk)
00:15, 19 February 2013 (UTC)reply
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